Background to Israel-Gaza war

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Magenta

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Nehemiah6

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I'm a little worried about Turkey to be quite honest. It sounds like they have had a enough of what Israel has been doing
Turkey should have no beef with Israel, but Erdogan is an evil Islamist (like all the others who want Israel annihilated). There is not a single friend that Israel has right now, and the attacks on Jews all over the world (including the USA) are appalling. But American Jews never learned that the Liberals (and now the Communists/Fascists) hate Jews. Every Jew should have been a conservative, but they mostly deluded themselves. Nonetheless, God will continue to help Israel, even though American Jews do not all stand with Israel.

Satan has hated the nation of Israel since its inception. He knows God chose Israel as a special nation, particularly because the Lord Jesus Christ would come as the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world. But Satan will not win in the end, since Hell was created for the devil and his angels. So God has His reasons for allowing Satan to wreak havoc all over the world, and mass the enemies of Israel against it. They let down their guard momentarily, and are now paying a terrible price.
 

Gideon300

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I have an appreciation for history. I love to learn. However, I typically like reading books or watching movies from the beginning instead of the tail end, otherwise, I may miss the point altogether.
Fair enough. I watch quite a few historical documentaries. I do know something of the founding of Israel, the several wars since and the peace with Egypt. I had not followed the rise of Hamas as closely. I found the video informative.
 

HeIsHere

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I'm a little worried about Turkey to be quite honest. It sounds like they have had a enough of what Israel has been doing.

This is on the shoulders of their (Israel's) narcissistic corrupt leader, he is so desperate to stay in power he is burning bridges and simultaneously destroying his own country.
 

PennEd

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Cup of trembling….

Oh wait. How silly of me. ALL of that we’re told by the amils happened in 70 ad.

In fact, all this precise Bible prophecy, happening now, including the fake Jews occupying the Land, is just coincidence I’m sure.
 

ZNP

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Cup of trembling….

Oh wait. How silly of me. ALL of that we’re told by the amils happened in 70 ad.

In fact, all this precise Bible prophecy, happening now, including the fake Jews occupying the Land, is just coincidence I’m sure.
Tune them out, just like turning CNN off.
 

Gideon300

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This is on the shoulders of their (Israel's) narcissistic corrupt leader, he is so desperate to stay in power he is burning bridges and simultaneously destroying his own country.
Your opposition to Israel is unfounded and you are being deceived by demons. Israel is not perfect. Neither are you.
 

Gideon300

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I think they mean "What Israel is about to Do Will CONTINUE to Shock the World!" I've been shocked at the war crimes Israel has done, is doing, and will continue to do.
You should be shocked at what Hamas is doing. Hamas is deliberately putting civilians in harm's way. That is a war crime, in case you did not know. Actually, I'm not shocked by what Hamas is doing. They are following their role model, the "Ideal Man", Mohammed. I expect nothing better. Palestinians generally hate Israel and there is no hope of a two state solution. There never has been.
 

Smoke

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You should be shocked at what Hamas is doing. Hamas is deliberately putting civilians in harm's way. That is a war crime, in case you did not know. Actually, I'm not shocked by what Hamas is doing. They are following their role model, the "Ideal Man", Mohammed. I expect nothing better. Palestinians generally hate Israel and there is no hope of a two state solution. There never has been.
Who says I'm not shocked by Hamas? I'm just less shocked that a terrorist organization is doing terroristic things. I don't consider Israel or the IDF to be a terroristic nation/military, though they are doing some things which are illegal under international law which are terroristic in nature. The main point is that you can be shocked with Israel while also being shocked with Hamas. It's not a team sport where you cheer for one side and go against the other side.
 

shittim

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Who says I'm not shocked by Hamas? I'm just less shocked that a terrorist organization is doing terroristic things. I don't consider Israel or the IDF to be a terroristic nation/military, though they are doing some things which are illegal under international law which are terroristic in nature. The main point is that you can be shocked with Israel while also being shocked with Hamas. It's not a team sport where you cheer for one side and go against the other side.
Were you Christian, you would know you are no longer your own, that you had given your "SELF" to Him to be conformed to the image of the Son, no more "I", "me" " mine".
that you post how you have degrees to how shocked you are should be a wake up in a created world where there are only 2 realms His and condemned one. and by default we are in need of a Savior.
best wishes:)
 

HeIsHere

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Your opposition to Israel is unfounded and you are being deceived by demons. Israel is not perfect. Neither are you.
I am opposed to the genocide that is occurring, I am not opposed to there being a nation of Israel.

How about you learn to understand nuance and complexity.
 

shittim

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So much for Galatians c5-v22&23 in that post, yes it appears you are indeed influenced by that which is not of the Father.
All are being negatively influenced as the enemy pulls out all stops before his incarceration.
best wishes:)(y):unsure:
 

Cameron143

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I am opposed to the genocide that is occurring, I am not opposed to there being a nation of Israel.

How about you learn to understand nuance and complexity.
The characterization of the Israeli attacks as genocide is simply false. Genocide is an intentional killing of all the members of a particular race, with the intention to continue killing until no more are left alive. This is neither Israel's stated goal or practice. Interestingly enough, this is the stated goal of Hamas, and would be their practice if possible.
 

Gideon300

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I am opposed to the genocide that is occurring, I am not opposed to there being a nation of Israel.

How about you learn to understand nuance and complexity.
How about you come into the real world. Hamas knows nothing of human rights and uses their own people (who voted them in) as human shields. What you want is not achievable. What would you do? Do you have a viable alternative strategy? No one else does. Noble sentiment is all very well, but the world is not noble and sentiment never got the job done.
 
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Israel has been attacking Gaza for decades, trying to ethnically cleans the land for Zion settlements

Timeline: Israel’s attacks on Gaza since 2005

This is the latest assault by Israel on Gaza since the 11-day war in May 2021 killed hundreds and wounded thousands.
https://tinyurl.com/mrxuun7a


Effects of the Gaza War (2008–2009)

There are multiple humanitarian, medical, economic, and industrial effects of the 2008–2009 Gaza War which started with the Israeli air strikes on 27 December 2008 and ended on 18 January with a cease-fire implemented unilaterally by Israel, and later the same day by Hamas and other Palestinian factions. The cease-fire followed twenty-two days of bombardment by land, sea and air which left over 1,300 Palestinians dead and over 5,000 injured, and the death of 13 Israelis. The United Nations Development Programme warned that there will be long-term consequences of the attacks on Gaza because the livelihoods and assets of tens of thousands of Gaza civilians have been affected
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_the_Gaza_War_(2008–2009)


The 2014 Gaza War, also known as Operation Protective Edge (Hebrew: מִבְצָע צוּק אֵיתָן, romanized: Miv'tza Tzuk Eitan, lit. 'Operation Strong Cliff'), was a military operation launched by Israel on 8 July 2014 in the Gaza Strip, a Palestinian territory that has been governed by Hamas since 2007. Following the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers in the West Bank by Hamas-affiliated Palestinian militants, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initiated Operation Brother's Keeper, in which some 350 Palestinians, including nearly all of the active Hamas militants in the West Bank, were arrested. Hamas subsequently fired a greater number of rockets into Israel from the Gaza Strip,

The Israeli military operation aimed to stop rocket fire into Israel from the Gaza Strip.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Gaza_War