Becomes Trump a dictator?

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Dude653

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20 million illegals invaded this country and MAGA is fighting back. It's really that simple.
Did you wake up and eat a bowl of Non Sequitur-O's for breakfast this morning? What the Hades did that have to do with my comment?
 

PaulThomson

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I agree with you. Well me wonders that the rep had no other candidate for president.
The GOp had quite a few who began to primary Trump, but Trump was so popular with the grass roots and the challengers were gaining such a small percentage of support, that they all dropped out of the primary contest.
 

Dude653

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You can't see the parallels?
Irrelevant. That wasn't the topic we were discussing. But I suspect the real reason conservatives are against aiding Ukraine is because they have an affinity for dictators
Also, immigrants aren't coming here
and hospitals and churches either so false equivalency... Oh and schools
 

PaulThomson

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Irrelevant. That wasn't the topic we were discussing. But I suspect the real reason conservatives are against aiding Ukraine is because they have an affinity for dictators
Also, immigrants aren't coming here
and hospitals and churches either so false equivalency... Oh and schools
Or maybe conservatives just want the pointless killing and destruction in an unwinnable war to stop. Maybe conservatives generally value human life more than progressives do.
 

Dude653

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Or maybe conservatives just want the pointless killing and destruction in an unwinnable war to stop. Maybe conservatives generally value human life more than progressives do.
Ukraine is a sovereign country that was invaded. They have a right to fight back.
 

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Ukraine is a sovereign country that was invaded. They have a right to fight back.
Yes one could argue that, however, not sure why the USA had to be involved, of course they (the USA) did do a lot of provoking over the years

How much money was given??
 

HeIsHere

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Or maybe conservatives just want the pointless killing and destruction in an unwinnable war to stop. Maybe conservatives generally value human life more than progressives do.
I would agree 100% with Hegseth and his stand on the war between Ukraine and Russia.

I am actually shocked at the change, after all the USA did over the years to set up this proxy war.
I take this as very good news.
 

Dude653

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Yes one could argue that, however, not sure why the USA had to be involved, of course they (the USA) did do a lot of provoking over the years

How much money was given??
Sends a message to Putin that he doesn't get to invade another country and the rest of the world is just going to sit by and do nothing. Worth every penny
 

HeIsHere

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Sends a message to Putin that he doesn't get to invade another country and the rest of the world is just going to sit by and do nothing. Worth every penny
Every penny a waste and lives lost for no reason.

I am not a war monger, this dispute could have been settled through diplomacy years ago.
Do you feel the same way when your country does the same, invades other countries that is?
 

Dude653

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Every penny a waste and lives lost for no reason.

I am not a war monger, this dispute could have been settled through diplomacy years ago.
Do you feel the same way when your country does the same, invades other countries that is?
Room temperature IQ comment
This is like saying self-defense is pro violence
 

ZNP

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Did you wake up and eat a bowl of Non Sequitur-O's for breakfast this morning? What the Hades did that have to do with my comment?
It compares your stance on the war in Ukraine with your stance on MAGA's concern with the border and demonstrates you are a hypocrite. So put that on your bowl of cereal for breakfast.
 

Dude653

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It compares your stance on the war in Ukraine with your stance on MAGA's concern with the border and demonstrates you are a hypocrite. So put that on your bowl of cereal for breakfast.
So you're saying illegal immigrants coming to America is morally equivalent to Russia bombing children?
 

PaulThomson

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So you're saying illegal immigrants coming to America is morally equivalent to Russia bombing children?
Yes. Because many illegal immigrants into the US are convicted criminals and mentally unwell who are committing violent crimes, and 250,000 children who crossed the border are now lost and unaccounted for. Maybe they weren't bombed, but many are likely now dead, Not to mention the fentanyl deaths of youths and children from fentanyl smuggled across the border with illegals.
 

ZNP

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So you're saying illegal immigrants coming to America is morally equivalent to Russia bombing children?
No, only you would make that equivalency. I am saying that Ukraine defending their border is equivalent to Americans wanting to defend their border.
 

PaulThomson

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Ukraine is a sovereign country that was invaded. They have a right to fight back.
They are indeed free to do whatever they like, but they have to bear the consequences they were warned about as well. They chose to seek NATO membership, knowing Moscow's red line concerning that prospect. Zelenski was fooled by NATO into thinking NATO wanted them to reclaim their land, when what NATO wanted was a war that would set the US against Russian and bleed both countries' resources and diminish their power to something closer to their own.
 

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