Becomes Trump a dictator?

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HeIsHere

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Your side lost. And you have no idea how fortunate that is for America. And you have no idea the corruption that exists within the US government. Complain all you like. Informed patriotic Americans have been awaiting this moment in history, and will enjoy it. You hypocrites will be allowed to voice your concerns unbraided while the Trump administration reveals all the corruption. Better get the jumbo box of Kleenex.

#WINNING
You are cracking me up today, hilarious!!
 

Tamarisk

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Your side lost. And you have no idea how fortunate that is for America. And you have no idea the corruption that exists within the US government. Complain all you like. Informed patriotic Americans have been awaiting this moment in history, and will enjoy it. You hypocrites will be allowed to voice your concerns unbraided while the Trump administration reveals all the corruption. Better get the jumbo box of Kleenex.

#WINNING

My side did not win or lose. Harris would’ve been just as bad as Trump just in a different way.

True informed patriots know that both Democrats and Republicans are just two sides of the same coin.
 

Cameron143

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The executive branch has the power to shrink the footprint of the department of education. However, they need congressional approval to roll it into other agencies or end it all together.


The Department of education does not have the scope and reach that you think it does.

The main thing this is going to do is impact students with disabilities. Students with disabilities will go several years without getting the special education they need until the states are able to pick up the slack.
It was only a matter of time before the emotional argument came in. If it will save 1 child...You have no evidence that any special needs child will be left behind. Yet we do have proof that test scores for students went down markedly due to policies instituted by the Department of Education during covid.
 

studier

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My side did not win or lose. Harris would’ve been just as bad as Trump just in a different way.

True informed patriots know that both Democrats and Republicans are just two sides of the same coin.

Then came MAGA.
 

HeIsHere

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My side did not win or lose. Harris would’ve been just as bad as Trump just in a different way.

True informed patriots know that both Democrats and Republicans are just two sides of the same coin.
Exactly!!!

Christians have been played, it is really sad.
 

Cameron143

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My side did not win or lose. Harris would’ve been just as bad as Trump just in a different way.

True informed patriots know that both Democrats and Republicans are just two sides of the same coin.
While this is in part true, it's not true of Trump. He's a political outsider, and he's there to change the status quo. He'll get the truth about the corruption out this time.

#WINNING
 

ZNP

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What hypocrisy. None of the people complaining about Trump and his administration said peep when the last administration did the same things.
Yes, but that was month ago.
 

ZNP

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We have separation of powers for a reason this is not hysterical. The executive branch is currently making decisions. They do not have the ability to make. These decisions take an act of Congress to make. Whether you like it or not.


You cannot lay off federal workers and you cannot shut down agencies without congressional approval. The reason for this is because we broke away from a king. We no longer wanted to be ruled by oligarchs..
Then instead of stupid rallies at the DOE how about they raise an issue with Congress or take them to court at the Supreme court?

Are you seriously this clueless? Every single president does things that the other party does not agree with. If it is unconstitutional that is for the Supreme court to decide. The more you talk the more ignorant and foolish you appear.
 

ZNP

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The executive branch has the power to shrink the footprint of the department of education. However, they need congressional approval to roll it into other agencies or end it all together.


The Department of education does not have the scope and reach that you think it does.

The main thing this is going to do is impact students with disabilities. Students with disabilities will go several years without getting the special education they need until the states are able to pick up the slack.
The only impact this will have on education is that we will now be able to get more for our money.
 

Tamarisk

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While this is in part true, it's not true of Trump. He's a political outsider, and he's there to change the status quo. He'll get the truth about the corruption out this time.

#WINNING

He served a term as president. He is now an insider.
The only impact this will have on education is that we will now be able to get more for our money.
I have children that are currently in school with IEP’s. Department of education is in charge of IEP’s. This would end their IEP’s. This would not be a good thing for my children.
 

Tamarisk

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Then instead of stupid rallies at the DOE how about they raise an issue with Congress or take them to court at the Supreme court?

Are you seriously this clueless? Every single president does things that the other party does not agree with. If it is unconstitutional that is for the Supreme court to decide. The more you talk the more ignorant and foolish you appear.

This is not business as usual, and this has never been done before.

I respect your right to believe what you do and I respectfully disagree with it.
 

Cameron143

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He served a term as president. He is now an insider.

I have children that are currently in school with IEP’s. Department of education is in charge of IEP’s. This would end their IEP’s. This would not be a good thing for my children.
If he was an insider, he would be doing insider things. You don't get impeached twice over bogus things or have court cases brought against you for being an insider.
Remind me, how many times Biden was impeached or charged?

#WINNING
 

HeIsHere

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He served a term as president. He is now an insider.

I have children that are currently in school with IEP’s. Department of education is in charge of IEP’s. This would end their IEP’s. This would not be a good thing for my children.
Exactly, see how people have no consideration for the slash and burn policies of Trump and how it affects the most vulnerable.

More punching down.. the concentration of wealth at the top is Trump going to deal with the polices that allowed that to happen over the years.?

Orders executed without knowledge and planning is tragic.

I feel for you, I truly do, these students are the most vulnerable and their programming and supports (IEP) should be legally protected.

Suffice it so say Trump has no clue.
 

Cameron143

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Except if you are a student who needs an IEP to be successful in school.
Do you rely on the government or God.

Have her children lost any benefits yet? Would the states, who administer education, cut off such children?

It's all emotionalism and what if ism. Meanwhile, my children were harmed by the increase debt placed on them by record spending of the last administration, harmed by the inflation and interest rates when buying homes, and harmed by all the ridiculous social policies. Real harmed that you suffered, as well as all Americans.

So you fight against things that might happen, and I'll fight against the things that have happened. And you're welcome.

#WINNING
 

ZNP

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I have children that are currently in school with IEP’s. Department of education is in charge of IEP’s. This would end their IEP’s. This would not be a good thing for my children.
I was a teacher for many years and I also had a child who had an IEP. You don't know what you are talking about. The federal government passes laws, they have no constitutional right to control education but what they do is take tax payer money and give it to schools who follow their instructions, It is corrupt and it is unconstitutional.

These laws include imposing rules on schools without providing funding. For the suburbs that may have twice as much money as the inner city they can afford to subsidize these rules. But the inner city can't and they can't afford to not get the money from the Federal government. So there is a loophole, it is called "least restrictive environment". If you have a lot of money that can be a small classroom with ten students and two teachers. But for the inner city that is a classroom of 34 students and 1 teacher. They put all the kids together, this is not helpful to your best students, nor is it helpful to the students that need the most help. When kids are bored or frustrated because they don't understand they will act out and disrupt the class. So the classroom becomes chaos. Then you have other kids who think it is funny to push the buttons of either of these two groups. They don't do enough to get disciplined themselves but can be very instrumental in creating a circus like atmosphere.

Granted, if you are an experienced teacher with ten years, and you are very serious about being a professional you can overcome all this. But most of these teachers will move to the suburb to teach. The suburbs pay more and so they like to get teachers with four or five years experience before they even enter one of their classrooms. So the inner city becomes the minor leagues for teachers. In a well funded suburb a teacher can make twice what they get paid in the inner city between their salary and the pay for clubs and tutoring. Also you don't have to worry about the circus like atmosphere of the inner city, they can afford teachers to take on the IEP students separately.

If you understand this then you understand that "no child left behind" means "no child gets ahead". That is the plan for the inner city. Give the rich suburbs a big advantage in education so that their kids become the leaders and the inner city kids can be cashiers and other low wage jobs.
 

vassal

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I dont know how you americans see this. In europe at seems that Trump and Musk doing everything for to fight against democracy and freedom to encrease their own Power and influence.
yes, I see this also, not just the USA but also in other countries.

Peace
 

ZNP

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I agree that the steps Trump is taking are extreme. If our national debt was $4 trillion and our annual tax revenue was $4.5 trillion these steps would be unreasonably extreme. However, our debt is like a man who makes 100k a year having a credit card debt of 800k. No one is going to loan money to this guy, how come they let him get this far into debt? Because he is a mafia crime boss. It is like the mafiosos in Goodfellows who ran the Italian restaurant into the ground. That is where we are right now. By any normal measure the US is broke. In this situation you have to take extreme measures. However, no one should be under any illusion that Trump is going to rescue the restaurant. Chances are still very great that they burn the US economy to the ground and try to collect the insurance.