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1Kings 3:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]One day two women who were prostitutes came to Solomon. As they stood before him, [SUP]17 [/SUP]one of the women said, “My master, this woman and I live in the same house. I gave birth to a baby while she was there with me. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Three days later this woman also gave birth to a baby. No one else was in the house with us; it was just the two of us. [SUP]19 [/SUP]One night this woman rolled over on her baby, and he died. [SUP]20 [/SUP]So she took my son from my bed during the night while I was asleep, and she carried him to her bed. Then she put the dead baby in my bed. [SUP]21 [/SUP]The next morning when I got up to feed my baby, I saw that he was dead! When I looked at him more closely, I realized he was not my son.”
[SUP]22 [/SUP]“No!” the other woman cried. “The living baby is my son, and the dead baby is yours!”
But the first woman said, “No! The dead baby is yours, and the living one is mine!” So the two women argued before the king.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Then King Solomon said, “One of you says, ‘My son is alive and your son is dead.’ Then the other one says, ‘No! Your son is dead and my son is alive.’”
[SUP]24 [/SUP]The king sent his servants to get a sword. When they brought it to him, [SUP]25 [/SUP]he said, “Cut the living baby into two pieces, and give each woman half.”
[SUP]26 [/SUP]The real mother of the living child was full of love for her son. So she said to the king, “Please, my master, don’t kill him! Give the baby to her!”
But the other woman said, “Neither of us will have him. Cut him into two pieces!”
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Then King Solomon said, “Don’t kill him. Give the baby to the first woman, because she is the real mother.”
[SUP]28 [/SUP]When the people of Israel heard about King Solomon’s decision, they respected him very much. They saw he had wisdom from God to make the right decisions.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]One day two women who were prostitutes came to Solomon. As they stood before him, [SUP]17 [/SUP]one of the women said, “My master, this woman and I live in the same house. I gave birth to a baby while she was there with me. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Three days later this woman also gave birth to a baby. No one else was in the house with us; it was just the two of us. [SUP]19 [/SUP]One night this woman rolled over on her baby, and he died. [SUP]20 [/SUP]So she took my son from my bed during the night while I was asleep, and she carried him to her bed. Then she put the dead baby in my bed. [SUP]21 [/SUP]The next morning when I got up to feed my baby, I saw that he was dead! When I looked at him more closely, I realized he was not my son.”
[SUP]22 [/SUP]“No!” the other woman cried. “The living baby is my son, and the dead baby is yours!”
But the first woman said, “No! The dead baby is yours, and the living one is mine!” So the two women argued before the king.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Then King Solomon said, “One of you says, ‘My son is alive and your son is dead.’ Then the other one says, ‘No! Your son is dead and my son is alive.’”
[SUP]24 [/SUP]The king sent his servants to get a sword. When they brought it to him, [SUP]25 [/SUP]he said, “Cut the living baby into two pieces, and give each woman half.”
[SUP]26 [/SUP]The real mother of the living child was full of love for her son. So she said to the king, “Please, my master, don’t kill him! Give the baby to her!”
But the other woman said, “Neither of us will have him. Cut him into two pieces!”
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Then King Solomon said, “Don’t kill him. Give the baby to the first woman, because she is the real mother.”
[SUP]28 [/SUP]When the people of Israel heard about King Solomon’s decision, they respected him very much. They saw he had wisdom from God to make the right decisions.
You didn't answer at all. All you did was replace the word "attack" with "degrade". So what is your definition of "degrade"? Is it that Christians can't say that homosexual acts are sinful in need of confession and repentance? Also, the "degrading" going on is Anti-Christian bigotry, not the other way around.
B
I remember reading & studying this group back in the 80's when social scientist were quoting the population of homosexuals to be close to 10% (excluding bisexuals & transgenders). The hardcore numbers & strength of the gay community are the bisexuals. Most of them will not come out of the closet because of possible repercussions from society. The population of bisexuals is very difficulty to measure but those who have studied them will tell you that the numbers are significant. For example, San Francisco, which has laws protecting them, did a survey and the numbers were as high as 16%. That number could easily go over 30% if the closet was completely open. You really don't believe a group (LGBT) being 3.5% of the population could have the power & money to change the landscape of America so quickly??? Trust me here the left wing radical are pulling your leg with the 3.5% number. A significant number of heterosexuals can go both ways and very few of them will admit it publicly.
T
Homosexuality isn't a sin, it is an inclination to sin, but it's not the sin itself.
If one was born homosexual, then he/she wouldn't have to repent for simply being a homosexual, because he/she was born that way; he/she did not become homosexual as a result of his/her free-will.
If one willingly became homosexual while he/she is naturally heterosexual, then he/she would have to repent for being homosexual.
Romans 1:26-27
They exchanged natural for unnatural.
Yes, scripture is clear that homosexality is against God, but there is a difference between someone who intentionally rebels against the Lord and someone who unintentionally rebels against the Lord.
intentionally rebelling against the Lord -----> Your free-will is a factor in your rebellion.
Exodus, the Pharaoh
unintentionally rebelling against the Lord -----> You had no idea that doing this would have hindered God's plans.
Genesis chapter 20
If we intentionally rebel against the Lord, we are rebelling as a result of our free-will, and so, we're be committing a sin.
If we unintentionally rebel against the Lord, we are rebelling against him by mistake.
[HR][/HR]It certainly is possible for human beings to naturally be born homosexual as a result of DNA deformities and what-not.
It's also possible for a homosexual Christian to be a true Christian.
If one was born homosexual, then he/she wouldn't have to repent for simply being a homosexual, because he/she was born that way; he/she did not become homosexual as a result of his/her free-will.
If one willingly became homosexual while he/she is naturally heterosexual, then he/she would have to repent for being homosexual.
Romans 1:26-27
They exchanged natural for unnatural.
Yes, scripture is clear that homosexality is against God, but there is a difference between someone who intentionally rebels against the Lord and someone who unintentionally rebels against the Lord.
intentionally rebelling against the Lord -----> Your free-will is a factor in your rebellion.
Exodus, the Pharaoh
unintentionally rebelling against the Lord -----> You had no idea that doing this would have hindered God's plans.
Genesis chapter 20
If we intentionally rebel against the Lord, we are rebelling as a result of our free-will, and so, we're be committing a sin.
If we unintentionally rebel against the Lord, we are rebelling against him by mistake.
[HR][/HR]It certainly is possible for human beings to naturally be born homosexual as a result of DNA deformities and what-not.
It's also possible for a homosexual Christian to be a true Christian.
Wow! Simply stunning statement in it's complete lack of understanding why God had to send his Son to die for us. THE WHOLE POINT IS WE ARE ALL "BORN WITH" SIN!! Your post says "well if your'e born with the proclivity to commit a particular sin then it's not really sin for you because you were born with it." Does that mean I can lust after any woman I want because I was born with that desire? Can I get drunk everyday because I was born with the gene for alcoholism? Does the psychopath not sin for murder because he was born with the inability for empathy?
J
SunTrust Reverses Decision On Conservative Benham Brothers 05/16/14 What an example of how dangerous it is now in America for people who love the Lord and stand for His truth. Notice how quickly this bank dropped the brothers. The bank owners are weak or are with the homosexual agenda and immediately ended their business. It was only public pressure that ended this. Huge sections of America are ready to come against Christians. Under the right circumstances, I can see America become as the French Revolution. This is now very close. “After an uproar from conservative customers, SunTrust Banks announced Friday afternoon that the decision to end its relationship with real estate entrepreneurs David and Jason Benham had been reversed. Earlier Friday, The Daily Caller reported that SunTrust Banks had pulled all of its listed properties with the Benham brothers’ bank-owned property business. The move came just a week after HGTV announced it was canceling a planned home renovation show hosted by the Benhams because of their conservative views on abortion and gay marriage. By Friday afternoon, SunTrust released a statement saying the decision had been reversed. The bank didn’t go into detail about why they originally cut ties with the Benham brothers, though SunTrust said the decision was made by a third party vendor. The DC reported earlier Friday that the vendor had told a Benham Brothers franchisee that the bank itself made the decision.”
John McTernan
John McTernan
Gobbily gook.
No one is unintentionally homosexual. Its a conscience choice. No one is born to be gay. There is no gay gene or dna, that's a scientific fact.
Someone may not have learned homosexuality is a sin but that does not change the fact it is a sin. After all we are not gods, making what sin is, God is. He said its a sin. Thought or deed, its a sin.
To try to use scripture to excuse sin...that's bad, and its not a little bad.
No one is unintentionally homosexual. Its a conscience choice. No one is born to be gay. There is no gay gene or dna, that's a scientific fact.
Someone may not have learned homosexuality is a sin but that does not change the fact it is a sin. After all we are not gods, making what sin is, God is. He said its a sin. Thought or deed, its a sin.
To try to use scripture to excuse sin...that's bad, and its not a little bad.
If there is a 33% homosexual presence in any group it would be in the media that promotes these ideals as they are liberal and want the destruction of society.
Why? The same reason for every liberal thought....power and control.
Look into those who are telling you these ''truths'' and you will find two things.....they have an agenda....and make money from it.
Why? The same reason for every liberal thought....power and control.
Look into those who are telling you these ''truths'' and you will find two things.....they have an agenda....and make money from it.