Bergdahl- Obama's stellar swap

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AgeofKnowledge

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"A troublemaker and a villain,
who goes about with a corrupt mouth,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] who winks maliciously with his eye,
signals with his feet
and motions with his fingers,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] who plots evil with deceit in his heart—
he always stirs up conflict." -Proverbs 6:12-14

Oooh very touchy, for the first time that I am saying this. And... I am haven't said anything specific.

But you know... Ha ha... you know that I am on to you.

*wink
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Part of the problem is that both parties are responsible and not just their leaders either. Legislatures and the judiciary at the federal and state levels have incurred responsibility along with every president since Ronald Reagan and yes him too.

There are some good politicians that have not participated in implementing the policies and decisions which have resulted in the decline of American institutions, the economy, public education, society, etc... but they are few.

There is a very real 'collective responsibility' for what has occurred and continues to occur and that, of course, includes voters too.


Lol I love how Bush apparently doesn't even exist for eight years, then the economic collapse that happens DURING and AFTER isn't his fault, but is the fault of the guy who was president eight years before him, then the guy who took office one day after him.

This is exactly my point!

Republicans act as if Bush basically didn't exist for eight years, then they blame EVERYTHING on Clinton.
But then as soon as Obama takes office and blames things on Bush, all the sudden it's "blaming Bush".

Politics is so funny.
 
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Brighthouse

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Just for consideration. 1 A soldier in war deserts ( fact) 2. under the Military code of conduct in time of war,the soldier in question can be shot on the spot. ( fact) 3. So A President who seems not to know the rules of conduct decides to change the rules himself.

Even though at least 6 died looking for him. he sets free 5 of the worst people he can, to receive what in return? ( nothing) By committing this act, the President himself acts against the country he has been elected to serve? And that is ok? Common sense? SO!

An emergency hearing can be conducted,to judge the medical condition of any President who commits such an act against our own nation. With me so far?? cool. The anger of the soldiers now after this act by the President kills morale! Inviting others to do the very same thing!

Example, France just gave Putin two warships for money,one of them an aircraft carrier! They are suppose to be with us! See the affect! Now a soldier in battle has no idea who truly supports him or her.Many died getting this scum in the first place, and now they died in vain?Because by the action of this President, they sure have! It is not about party!

It is about common sense! I sure did not care for Bush either! But to use Israel as an example, and say it is ok for us to do the same thing is to me truly insane! They have more trouble within because of there action,is this what we wish to have as well? You decide! I have!

My prayer is this psalm 109:8 just this verse,as the rest is far to mean. The real threat to us right now,is our weakness to killers! It is a time to change again. To whom is our problem! I know many out there will disagree,I would truly enjoy hearing why, from those who do! Blessing all!
 

Drett

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Calling me a Muslim pothead is not a corrupt mouth or stirring up conflict ?

"A troublemaker and a villain,
who goes about with a corrupt mouth,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] who winks maliciously with his eye,
signals with his feet
and motions with his fingers,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] who plots evil with deceit in his heart—
he always stirs up conflict." -Proverbs 6:12-14
 

JimJimmers

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Calling me a Muslim pothead is not a corrupt mouth or stirring up conflict ?
Also, he suggested you were British. I would have thought you'd take the most offence at that.
 
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"A troublemaker and a villain,
who goes about with a corrupt mouth,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] who winks maliciously with his eye,
signals with his feet
and motions with his fingers,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] who plots evil with deceit in his heart—
he always stirs up conflict." -Proverbs 6:12-14

You call people all kinds of things all day long on this forum without impunity.

Yet you are the biggest whiny little girly man when the spotlights shines slightly on you.

What are you afraid of?

If the bully can't handle a little criticism then I suggest you stop bullying members of this forum that don't immediately agree with you.
 
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Also, he suggested you were British. I would have thought you'd take the most offence at that.
We are part of the British Commonwealth.

Calling us American would be the biggest insult.

But then again we don't got to WW3 three over criticisms of our nation.
 
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Thinks isolationism is sounding better and better
 

Drett

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Also, he suggested you were British. I would have thought you'd take the most offence at that.
None of the personal stuff offends me. We would not know each other if we passed each other in the street. I am just curious.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I'm not afraid of anything. You're the one whining and I watch you hypocritically engage in the very behaviors you pretend to take offense over all the time on this forum like you just did here.

I'll disagree with your false assertions whenever I choose to. If you don't like it, then stop making them. And, of course, you can choose to take your own advice and leave. Bon voyage.

Anyways, I'm not going to keep arguing back and forth with you about your feelings because it should be handled in PM anyways not on the forum as you've chosen to do and besides you've never cared about mine.

So, I'm just going to ignore these little outbursts and carry on back on topic. I do apologize; however, for getting your nationality wrong. Moving along...


You call people all kinds of things all day long on this forum without impunity.

Yet you are the biggest whiny little girly man when the spotlights shines slightly on you.

What are you afraid of?

If the bully can't handle a little criticism then I suggest you stop bullying members of this forum that don't immediately agree with you.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Foreign interventionism is not a tenant of either paleoconservatism or classical liberalism. One not need be isolationist to reform with respect to foreign interventionism. There is a happy place in moderation.


Thinks isolationism is sounding better and better
 
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Who is to say your creative writing is any more accurate than the media's supposed creative writing? :p
Annnnnnnd........ wut about yours? Ther's way fer more of yer writin' on here then mine! You DO have a back porch, yes? Mebbe it time to git out the broom. :p:rolleyes:
 
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So many lies told in this thread. So much false witness bearing born against Bergdahl.

It's unbelievable how many of you act in a despicable way in order to support the Republican noise machine.

Let's not even mention God's laws being broken here, just common every day decency is being trashed. I am deeply ashamed of you people here who call yourself Christian and carry on like this.

You act like disgusting satanic pigs.You don't even hide your hatred of God's commandments.

I'm done.
What should I say here? The Bible say "he that judgest does the same things". The world says, "The biggest one points them out". Take yer choice.:rolleyes:
 
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Foreign interventionism is not a tenant of either paleoconservatism or classical liberalism. One not need be isolationist to reform with respect to foreign interventionism. There is a happy place in moderation.
Oh I am not a proponent of isolationism but it would serve the self-righteous people who live in other countries who do not respect the effort, money and BLOOD we have given to keep them free.

If we pull out of the world, they could not afford their socialism and that is fact.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I think we should give them the opportunity to resolve their own problems to a much larger extent than we are currently instead of borrowing money we don't have from China to fatten the pockets of the wealthy owners of the U.S. military-industrial complex.

We should be using our diplomats a lot more and our military a lot less, in other words.


Oh I am not a proponent of isolationism but it would serve the self-righteous people who live in other countries who do not respect the effort, money and BLOOD we have given to keep them free.

If we pull out of the world, they could not afford their socialism and that is fact.
 

RickyZ

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Oh I am not a proponent of isolationism but it would serve the self-righteous people who live in other countries who do not respect the effort, money and BLOOD we have given to keep them free.

If we pull out of the world, they could not afford their socialism and that is fact.
I don't normally agree with you, but I'm with you on that one.
 

Elizabeth619

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Elizabeth but are you saying that NO ONE can comment either way on this Prisoner of War because all facts haven't been revealed?

If you are, then you agree with me.

I hope to see you challenge people here on their lies then.

Will you do that? Search your heart, are you being fair here?

The Republican party have nothing to do with Christianity. They regularly lie.

They are acting disgusting on this issue. A disgusting mob that started this war, now attacks veterans and a POW no less.

I will not be lectured to kiss the butt of Republicans when my family fought in these illegal wars.

Will no one here have an decency and respect for veterans?
I never said no one can comment on the POW. My problem is your constant bashing of Republicans and calling people liars when no one in Congress has even began in investigate Bergdahl. All we know is what his troop said about him, and in the event they are being truthful then yes he is a traitor. An investigation has not yet taken place, and his confidential file will not be looked at until this week so no one knows what is really going on until then.

As far as you saying the Republican party has nothign to do with Christianity you are way off base here. You do not know the heart of others, and to make that claim is very dangerous for you, but I can see why you make that claim. You have loved ones that fought in a war that many of us see as useless(including me). While this war began with a Republican president, he wasn't the only one that pushed for war. Many democrats were all for it including Barack Obama. Before he was elected president he voted numerous times to fund the war, and rumors of war were brewing before Bush was even elected. So this isn't just Republican thing David. While we have ONE president in America it takes more than him to run this country.
I am also not asking you to "kiss butt" to anyone. I am republican and I don't kiss butt to my own party, and I will be the first to admit that there is corruption in the Republican party as well as other parties. No party is "holy"

While you are upset about your family being in a senseless war(and I don't fault you for that) think about how the family members of the dead soldiers feel that died looking for the POW that is said to be a traitor by his own brothers in arms. Is their anger not justified?

This may upset many of my fellow republicans, but whether Bergdahl is a traitor or not is irrelevant at this point. No one knows if he is except for those who served with him, Bergdahl, and the Taliban. We knew nothing of him being an alleged traitor until soldiers came forward after his release. Nothing was said about it because the soldiers signed some type of contract of secrecy(not sure what it is really called), and then "blew the whistle" as soon as the media announce of his release. Law makers do plan to go over his files and investigate this sometime this week so until then we only know what the media tells us, and chances are the media has it all kinds of messed up anyway.

The real problem is the release of detainees from Gitmo. According to the law Congress is to be notified 30 days prior to the release, and they were not so Obama did break this law. THAT is the sole issue right now. Everything else is heresay until an actual investigation with lawmakers takes place.
 
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He left guard duty.

Soldiers died looking for him.

The soldiers with him have said he deserted. I believe they could not comment on it while still serving. They are out now.

The army classified him as a deserter.

The timing of this trade is interesting too as yet another scandal has risen its head and then..we get this story to deflect from the other.

The people given in trade were very dangerous people.

Something very very fishy here.....but not unexpected.