Biden - If you vote for me your taxes are going to be raised, not cut!

[Smoke]

I'm just going to say this... Even if we don't condone the powers that be doing this, it's ironic that Americans are telling foreigners to mind their own business or that they don't have any right commenting on our politics when our country has repeatedly been in the business of replacing many country's leaders with leaders they deem the lesser evil.

At least their commenting on our politics didn't create a vacuum and completely destabilize the middle east, giving rise to an even more threatening entity, costing Americans trillions of dollars and more importantly, countless lives of young people serving their country.

It doesn't make a bit of difference if a foreigner agrees or disagrees with me. What's more important is if what they are saying is backed up with facts. That's the entire point of having a forum discussion... to hopefully discuss fruitfully. If that isn't the point, then you're just looking for an echo chamber. Those same people commonly put people in an extreme dichotomy of "evil" or "ignorant" when someone disagrees with them. As brothers and sisters in Christ, we should be better than that.

 

[JeremiahsCup]

I'm just going to say this... Even if we don't condone the powers that be doing this, it's ironic that Americans are telling foreigners to mind their own business or that they don't have any right commenting on our politics when our country has repeatedly been in the business of replacing many country's leaders with leaders they deem the lesser evil.

At least their commenting on our politics didn't create a vacuum and completely destabilize the middle east, giving rise to an even more threatening entity, costing Americans trillions of dollars and more importantly, countless lives of young people serving their country.

It doesn't make a bit of difference if a foreigner agrees or disagrees with me. What's more important is if what they are saying is backed up with facts. That's the entire point of having a forum discussion... to hopefully discuss fruitfully. If that isn't the point, then you're just looking for an echo chamber. Those same people commonly put people in an extreme dichotomy of "evil" or "ignorant" when someone disagrees with them. As brothers and sisters in Christ, we should be better than that.

Despite my great mistrust of the foreigners, whom are most obviously invaders here to replace my generation, and my protectionist and nationalistic political leaning, I actually quite agree with this statement as a lover of free speech.

But then I suppose we're going to be hearing a lot of about how Russian trolls on the internet and their jokes can somehow effect our elections if the DNC's memos and internal e-mails get leaked again.

 

[JeremiahsCup]

I think Bernie was the left's best attempt to dethrone Trump. Perhaps I'm wrong, we will see... it's just extremely difficult to see Biden keep his head above water when he debates Trump.

It makes me think of one of those all-time great boxers who probably should have retired 1 or 2 fights earlier... but they feel like they have one last good fight in them, only to get completely annihilated by the opponent.

This is my thoughts as well though I dislike Bernie the most since he is easily the most evil and his presidency would be an economic and humanitarian disaster of epic proportions. Bernie, despite his terrible ideas that range from foolish to evil, is easily the best public speaker the Dems have, and an able debater. Bernie also has a kinda independent streak in him, so he has leadership qualities, and he is not just a mindless sycophantic follower.

With Biden it's just the full on opposite, your analogy is pretty apt, except that Biden has never been in analogy, a former great "boxer". Biden has always been a gaffe prone corrupt shill. Throughout his career Biden has always been best suited to be what we call a "useful idiot", meaning he doesn't even really know what he is standing for or fighting for, he is just there to collect a check and be used by the Party.

 

[Whispered]

I think Bernie was the left's best attempt to dethrone Trump. Perhaps I'm wrong, we will see... it's just extremely difficult to see Biden keep his head above water when he debates Trump.

It makes me think of one of those all-time great boxers who probably should have retired 1 or 2 fights earlier... but they feel like they have one last good fight in them, only to get completely annihilated by the opponent.

I don't think anyone who truly pays attention can miss the fact that of all hopeful Democrats in the field and running for the nomination, that all have now dropped out save for an avowed 79 year old Socialist proponent, (for everyone but himself) and a sadly demented 78 year old with a criminal history in politics. Yet to be prosecuted. Allegedly.

All three, two Democrat hopefuls and our current President, regardless of who wins , will make history as the oldest American elected President.

If there was a three prong debate between Trump, Biden and Sanders, I think we'd see the latter two drop from the stress. Sanders remember had a heart episode not that many months ago and while in the shower. Biden is losing his faculties the more he's under stress on the campaign trail.
And even though they would all have ear buds in so that others can guide then in answering the questions put to them, Biden demonstrates he can't keep up even with the speech scrolling on the teleprompter, Sanders would have a hard time keeping his cool the moment an astute Trump pushed the right buttons that he already knows are there.

Even in his current state of dementia Biden is beating Sanders in the primary votes. Sanders claims he'll refuse a joint ticket. Him and Biden , Presidential hopeful and his VP of choice.
That's a bad sign. People voting prefer a man clearly losing his mind to an avowed Socialist.

Either Democrat would be a nightmare for America. Trump is the only sane freedom loving choice. And it was made to be that way early on. I just wonder what was promised to those that dropped out, so that they did. And left these last two as a Democrats only choice.

 

[JeremiahsCup]

Yeah, but the world is having so many crisis thrown at it these days, and you just don’t want some soft spoken, pc, young person in office.

Then you’ll want a real man in charge.

Some would say it’s Trump, others would say it’s Biden, and yet some will say it’s Sanders.

No one would name the other candidates for the Democrats when times are bad.

When we’re frightened we’ll turn to someone we believe can protect us.

Despite the candidates advanced age, I think this general election is back to normal. No effeminate men, or pc women running this time.

While I think you are right about the public wanting a strong male leader due to both the crises that are upon us now, and the definitive note that this decade promises to deliver, I don't really see how Biden is at all a strong man. I mean remember how badly he caved to the wicked women like Kamala Harris in the earlier debates? Biden is very effeminate, and his policy positions are all extraordinarily effeminate. I do not really see how he comes across as a strong leader to people. Very often Biden will go whichever way the political winds blow, he is a follower and not a leader. I think people align with Biden because he has had the sanction of the Democrat Party establishment from the beginning, and simply the public knows his name.

Bernie, though him becoming President would be the most nightmarish scenario, I do concede he does appear somewhat strong. and has a leadership personality. Bernie is willing to stick to his guns rather than just fold to pressures of the crowd or the pandering will of ever degenerating democrat party elites, even if he is an absolute looney tune.

But of course one cannot get stronger than President Trump who is not just a strong male leader personality, but also has proven through the past four years both domestically and in the foreign policy to be probably the strongest President we will ever see. One only needs review how Trump has stood and fought against all of our enemies especially in a time when they are so openly evil and bent on destroying both America and Christianity.

 

[Whispered]

A strong man isn't that of one in the stages of dimentia. Nor one who hasn't the courage to retain control of his own rally. As Sanders demonstrated in his last bid. Allowing two screaming women from the racist group, BLM to take over his stage & mic.
America can do better than having a faux self identified Socialist and coward as CiC in these perilous times.

 

[JeremiahsCup]

A strong man isn't that of one in the stages of dimentia. Nor one who hasn't the courage to retain control of his own rally. As Sanders demonstrated in his last bid. Allowing two screaming women from the racist group, BLM to take over his stage & mic.
America can do better than having a faux self identified Socialist and coward as CiC in these perilous times.

That's a good point on Bernie, that totally slipped my mind, and it has happened now twice too!