Breaking News Terror In Paris

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kaylagrl

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jsr1221 said:
I'm pretty sure that's not what you and Mitspa said earlier.
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I speak for myself,thank you. No one else. Mitspa is more than able to handle himself. I said we need to stop Islam and compared it to Nazis. Its evil and I believe that.I also believe in arming yourself. I did not say guns kill more people than bombs. I dont even know where that came into the convo.
 
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kaylagrl said:
I speak for myself,thank you. No one else. Mitspa is more than able to handle himself. I said we need to stop Islam and compared it to Nazis. Its evil and I believe that.I also believe in arming yourself. I did not say guns kill more people than bombs. I dont even know where that came into the convo.
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"I know Mitspa is direct in his manner but there is truth to what he is saying. And if we're stuck in a room with terrorists knocking down the door Im with Mitspa and his logic"

His logic is guns killing terrorists which will make the terrorists run with their tail in between their legs. So since you agree with Mitspa, you're essentially saying guns kill more than a bomb does.
 
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jsr1221 said:
You said no crime is here.. Then you said little crime is here. We know you talk two sides out of your mouth. Other well respected people on this site have commented on it. Let's not act all innocent, here.
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1. Mitspa says "We have no crime to mention here..."
2. Mitspa says "we have very little crime."


What did I miss there? Where did he say there was no crime at all?
 
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kaylagrl said:
1. Mitspa says "We have no crime to mention here..."
2. Mitspa says "we have very little crime."


What did I miss there? Where did he say there was no crime at all?
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"We have no crime to mention here...everyone owns a gun and everyone knows if you try to rob and kill folks here ...everybody will shoot you ..even the old church ladies."

Tada.
 
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kaylagrl said:
My point is that Germany's people went along with the Nazis. Were all Germans evil? No,they were lulled to sleep by propaganda and before they knew it the Nazis had taken over. Anyone who came against them were sent to concentration camps or murdered outright. So Germany's people went along with the Nazis. The same is happening with Europe. They are being lulled to sleep by the PC crowd saying Islam is a peaceful religion. They are accepting Muslims not knowing who is radical and who is not.By the time they figure it out it will be too late. Islam has an agenda,to bring their savior back.To do this the world must accept Islam as truth. "Moderate Muslims" will bow to more radical Muslims the same way Germany did. They will march through Europe, killing anyone in their path, and onward unless they are stopped. That is my point.
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What world do you live in that makes you think that people in Europe think that Islam is a peaceful religion? NO ONE HAS SAID THAT! If anything, most of Europe has no religion...so, they don't care much for any religion.
European countries are letting in refugee's to to try to help them, not calling Islam peaceful. There is a difference.

Your comparison between Europe accepting refugee's and Germany accepting Nazis is so weird and far out there that I don't even know how to respond to you anymore.

All you do is sit behind a computer calling EVERYONE in a certain group of people evil and act like they have some hidden agenda against the rest of the world. NO! There are refugee's and then there are terrorist, they are NOT the same thing. Now, when you spend your time in the present of Middle Eastern refugee's, helping them, translating for them, listening to their pain and their sorrow, come back to me and we will talk. Until then, stop giving bias views against something that you have yet to even experience.
 
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jsr1221 said:
"I know Mitspa is direct in his manner but there is truth to what he is saying. And if we're stuck in a room with terrorists knocking down the door Im with Mitspa and his logic"

His logic is guns killing terrorists which will make the terrorists run with their tail in between their legs. So since you agree with Mitspa, you're essentially saying guns kill more than a bomb does.
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Oh I see,you made an assumption! Seriously, wise up. In Paris they were shooting in the theater. Had someone inside been armed, or several people been armed you dont think less life would have been lost? They werent bombing,they were shooting people one by one. One poor pregnant woman was hanging out a window. They were sitting ducks.
 
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jsr1221 said:
"We have no crime to mention here...everyone owns a gun and everyone knows if you try to rob and kill folks here ...everybody will shoot you ..even the old church ladies."

Tada.
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Im going to say this slowly, where did the man say "there is no crime at all"? That is what you said he said.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Oh I see,you made an assumption! Seriously, wise up. In Paris they were shooting in the theater. Had someone inside been armed, or several people been armed you dont think less life would have been lost? They werent bombing,they were shooting people one by one. One poor pregnant woman was hanging out a window. They were sitting ducks.
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I was pointing out the comment made how the terrorists will run away simply because someone has a gun to protect themselves. That's what Mitspa has been on record on saying and you have been on record saying you agree with his logic. It's not an assumption. Just reporting what I've read.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Im going to say this slowly, where did the man say "there is no crime at all"? That is what you said he said.
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The part where he says "We have no crime to mention here." All seven words right there. Can bold them for you if you'd like.
 
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No crime to mention, implies that there's no crime AT ALL. just saying..
 
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Oh I see,you made an assumption! Seriously, wise up. In Paris they were shooting in the theater. Had someone inside been armed, or several people been armed you dont think less life would have been lost? They werent bombing,they were shooting people one by one. One poor pregnant woman was hanging out a window. They were sitting ducks.
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Um, excuse me, but the last time I checked, they don't allow guns into concerts ANYWHERE. So, no one was going to be armed...
You guys keep bringing up this, "If they were allowed a gun..." or "We should be able to keep our guns blah blah blah." but your logic fails when you realize that even with a gun permit you can't bring guns into concerts, into schools, etc. and it does no one any good. And if I remember correctly...most of the mass shootings we have had in the US were in schools. So, in these cases and many others, the ownership of guns has destroyed lives, not saved them.
 
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IEATGLITTER said:
What world do you live in that makes you think that people in Europe think that Islam is a peaceful religion? NO ONE HAS SAID THAT! If anything, most of Europe has no religion...so, they don't care much for any religion.
European countries are letting in refugee's to to try to help them, not calling Islam peaceful. There is a difference.

Your comparison between Europe accepting refugee's and Germany accepting Nazis is so weird and far out there that I don't even know how to respond to you anymore.

All you do is sit behind a computer calling EVERYONE in a certain group of people evil and act like they have some hidden agenda against the rest of the world. NO! There are refugee's and then there are terrorist, they are NOT the same thing. Now, when you spend your time in the present of Middle Eastern refugee's, helping them, translating for them, listening to their pain and their sorrow, come back to me and we will talk. Until then, stop giving bias views against something that you have yet to even experience.
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Quote "What world do you live in that makes you think that people in Europe think that Islam is a peaceful religion? NO ONE HAS SAID THAT! If anything, most of Europe has no religion...so, they don't care much for any religion.
European countries are letting in refugee's to to try to help them, not calling Islam peaceful. There is a difference. "

Seriously there are so many opinions and posts flying here I thought you were saying it's a peaceful religion. So we actually do agree on something.

Quote "Your comparison between Europe accepting refugee's and Germany accepting Nazis is so weird and far out there that I don't even know how to respond to you anymore. "

Well that wasn't the comparison I was trying to make. Wires got crossed somewhere. I was talking about Islam not refugees.

Quote "All you do is sit behind a computer calling EVERYONE in a certain group of people evil and act like they have some hidden agenda against the rest of the world. NO!"

 Umm you're mixing me up with someone else.I never said that.

Quote "There are refugee's and then there are terrorist, they are NOT the same thing."

 But we cant know that because there are no records. We dont know if there are terrorists,ISIS says there are. Im all for helping true refugees but we dont know what we dont know. If the president would take out Assad the Syrians could be safe in their own country again and Im guessing that is what they would really prefer.


Quote " Now, when you spend your time in the present of Middle Eastern refugee's, helping them, translating for them, listening to their pain and their sorrow, come back to me and we will talk."

 So you have done so yourself? No matter. Again, I feel for the true refugees. Get rid of Assad and let them have their freedom again.Problem solved. You dont open your doors and put your country at more risk of terrorism.Solve the problem where they are. Remove Assad.


 
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GodIsSalvation said:
Well the solution seems kingly simple. Ban islam and guns.
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Yes, but America and Europe toot about free speech, free religion, etc. I guess it would be hypocritical of us all to live this way but then say, "No, you can't follow this religion." Do we sacrifice our values and laws and assume everyone will turn a blind eye to the hypocrisy? Oh, life is so complicated.
 
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jsr1221 said:
I was pointing out the comment made how the terrorists will run away simply because someone has a gun to protect themselves. That's what Mitspa has been on record on saying and you have been on record saying you agree with his logic. It's not an assumption. Just reporting what I've read.
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We're talking two different situations. But I'll say this,that terrorists want to hit the weak and unprepared. So Im talking lone wolf scenarios. Im not talking bombs. Guns dont trump bombs,thats why we have a military. Thats why they need to be stopped where they are,now.
 
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kaylagrl said:
We're talking two different situations. But I'll say this,that terrorists want to hit the weak and unprepared. So Im talking lone wolf scenarios. Im not talking bombs. Guns dont trump bombs,thats why we have a military. Thats why they need to be stopped where they are,now.
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Hate to break it to you, but it will never stop based on our actions. It's been happening all throughout time. It'll only stop when Jesus returns. From the way I see it, I can see the world continue to crumble until I die, or until He does return. We're humans and screw up the smallest of things each day. The only one that can save anyone of this mess is Him.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
No crime to mention, implies that there's no crime AT ALL. just saying..
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No crime to mention means little crime. As in not worth talking about.It doesnt mean none at all,never ever. :)
 
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Mitspa said:
Don't try to make your left-wing nonsense into Christianity ...and your post are so silly they don't deserve a response ...there is no CIA conspiracy to make muslims kill people ...that's just insane
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An interesting tidbit that you can choose to accept about yourself and learn from it or just ignore this comment.

When you are faced with something you can't argue against, you seem to dismiss it altogether as nonesense or left-wing, instead of facing the issue straight on. Look at my responses compared to your responses. I can address everything that you are saying, piece by piece. You are taking my whole posts and just tossing them up to "left-wing" nonesense, even though anarchism isn't even close to left wing, and in fact laughs at left-wing logic. You let your government and media label your thoughts as right-wing. Label your thoughts as conservative. You will never understand the true enemies until you understand that ideologies and moral convictions are individual. There is no magical line that suddenly makes you a conservative or makes you a liberal, but there is a magical line that makes you an anarchist.
 
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kaylagrl said:
No crime to mention means little crime. As in not worth talking about.It doesnt mean none at all,never ever. :)
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If a kid asks to eat cookies for dinner, and the parent says no, does that mean "a little"? No. No means no. I completed a little bit of school work tonight.. It's different than me saying "I completed no school work." No does mean none at all. I can list a whole lot of different examples that folks on here probably won't like. So, when Mitspa said "no crime here" that means "no crime is occurring."
 
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