Breaking-One Officer Killed In Dallas

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I had heard one suspect in custody and one surrendered. But who knows? News goes wacky the first twelve hours of a major incident.
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OIC, four suspects, one dead...

According to Dallas officials, one male suspect is dead and three more, two men and one woman are in custody.

According to Brown, police cornered Micah Johnson and negotiated with him for several hours. When talks broke down – they exchanged gunfire with the man. At that point, police sent in a remote vehicle and detonated a bomb – ultimately killing him.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/08/chief-brown-dallas-shooting-suspect-wanted-to-kill-white-people/
 
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A warm summer night's weekend in Dallas above the mid nineties... Ingredients for more trouble.
 
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Where are the "COP HATERS SHOULD BE HAPPY THIS MORNING" and "Minnesota Cop Kills Man While Girlfriend Livestreams" threads?

Why were they removed? I just noticed my post count dropped significantly and I'm unable to find the threads I've been corresponding in... =/
 
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Where are the "COP HATERS SHOULD BE HAPPY THIS MORNING" and "Minnesota Cop Kills Man While Girlfriend Livestreams" threads?

Why were they removed?
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Statists gonna State.
 
Desdichado

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I can't say I understand either. Threads have gotten way more heated before. I'd also say both "sides" of the issue were pretty well-split down the middle.

Isn't Oncefallen the mod here? I'm sure he has a good reason. He's a level-headed guy.
 
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I'd like to see an explanation so people don't cross the line again and ruin a good discussion.
 
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I think we just have to accept it according to the rules of the site.
 
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I will accept any and all rules, but just for clarity as to not repeat the offense, it would be beneficial to know what to avoid and what is acceptable.
 
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I think we just have to accept it according to the rules of the site.
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They're generally good about giving an explanation, though because they want rule violators to know what they did wrong. It isn't too out of line to ask for one.
 
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They're generally good about giving an explanation, though because they want rule violators to know what they did wrong. It isn't too out of line to ask for one.
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I wouldn't mind knowing. I've privately messaged Oncefallen on a couple of occasions and asked if I did something wrong. He always replies.
 
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Yep he's cool. Fairest of the fair, our Oncefallen.
 
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Heated debates are part of the game, but sometimes it is difficult for the participants to see how the thread and the posts are seen by others. Guess there were some tension in that thread.
 
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Yep he's cool. Fairest of the fair, our Oncefallen.
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Agreed. Honestly, I'm angry about that shooting. Mostly for the families and children of those officers. I'm a pretty simple plain spoken guy. I don't have a whole bunch of education, never was in the military...but I consider myself to be pretty perceptive and discerning. I love America and I still get chills when a whole group of people stand in unity and say the pledge or sing the national anthem. I'm glad I don't live in a large city. I live in a place where for the most part people know each other or know someone that knows someone and there is still a level of care about someone else. This is all sad and angering at the same time. Incredibly confusing and interesting times that we live in.
 
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Agreed. Honestly, I'm angry about that shooting. Mostly for the families and children of those officers. I'm a pretty simple plain spoken guy. I don't have a whole bunch of education, never was in the military...but I consider myself to be pretty perceptive and discerning. I love America and I still get chills when a whole group of people stand in unity and say the pledge or sing the national anthem. I'm glad I don't live in a large city. I live in a place where for the most part people know each other or know someone that knows someone and there is still a level of care about someone else. This is all sad and angering at the same time. Incredibly confusing and interesting times that we live in.
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I do think a lot of the "problems" in our nation are geographic in nature. I live in a pretty peaceful community. People of all races live together in general harmony. Police officers are also neighbors. Republicans still have breakfast with Democrats (the few we do have).

I hope we continue to be a faithful, peaceable people so God can spare us from this scourge.
 
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I do think a lot of the "problems" in our nation are geographic in nature. I live in a pretty peaceful community. People of all races live together in general harmony. Police officers are also neighbors. Republicans still have breakfast with Democrats (the few we do have).

I hope we continue to be a faithful, peaceable people so God can spare us from this scourge.
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I couldn't agree more! I travel for work all the time. My neighbors (on both sides of me) have keys to my house and my workshop in the back. They are free to use my riding lawn mower, weed eater, and other tools any time without even asking me. The only thing I ask is that when I'm gone, they check on my cat. They voluntarily mow my yard (1 acre of land) when they borrow my tools. When I'm home, I don't lock my door, I don't lock my windows, and I leave my transmitter keyless remote in my car in the driveway... I'll dread the day I have to start locking things up when I'm home or question my neighbors trustworthiness... :(
 
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Agreed. Honestly, I'm angry about that shooting. Mostly for the families and children of those officers. I'm a pretty simple plain spoken guy. I don't have a whole bunch of education, never was in the military...but I consider myself to be pretty perceptive and discerning. I love America and I still get chills when a whole group of people stand in unity and say the pledge or sing the national anthem. I'm glad I don't live in a large city. I live in a place where for the most part people know each other or know someone that knows someone and there is still a level of care about someone else. This is all sad and angering at the same time. Incredibly confusing and interesting times that we live in.
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Ummm, we aren't loners here in the city. I know my neighbors. Joe's grandson (who is in his 30's now) helped me install the screen to my front door after I couldn't do it. Every neighbor has been asking me about John and telling me they're praying. No one honked yesterday when we had to stop traffic while John got out of the car and used his walker to the door before I found a spot to park the car. (They honk when a deliver person jumps out of the car, so it's not like many aren't honkers. lol) Another neighbor offered to help me lug in groceries. (Only three trips, so I was fine.) The biggest complaint of the RNC when they were in town to make G.W. our next President was we were too damn friendly. Oh, and the number one thing I hear from folks in the doctor's waiting rooms for reasons they return to town is because the suburbs are so unfriendly.

Last week I had to go into the Jersey suburbs. (South Jersey, so you cant blame this on city-dwellers moving to the burbs or displaced New Yorkers.) While I was there, I decided to go grocery shopping because it has to be less hectic than city shopping always is. Ends up city shopping is less hectic, and the shoppers were much less friendly than city shoppers.

In reality, I think it's just the same for both places -- if you know someone, you're friendly. If you don't, you're not. At least, unless there is a political convention in town and then suddenly we're all "too friendly." (Seriously? 5/6ths of Philadelphians are Democrats, yet Republicans are complaining because the revivals are too friendly? What is this world coming to?) The Dems were nice to my people's convention several years ago, so I'll be nice to the Dems at their convention. (I'm not waving at Hillary though. I'll smile though. I did wave to G.W.)
 
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I couldn't agree more! I travel for work all the time. My neighbors (on both sides of me) have keys to my house and my workshop in the back. They are free to use my riding lawn mower, weed eater, and other tools any time without even asking me. The only thing I ask is that when I'm gone, they check on my cat. They voluntarily mow my yard (1 acre of land) when they borrow my tools. When I'm home, I don't lock my door, I don't lock my windows, and I leave my transmitter keyless remote in my car in the driveway... I'll dread the day I have to start locking things up when I'm home or question my neighbors trustworthiness... :(
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My neighbors know they're free to use our herbs. And living in the city, they only have to walk about 10-30 feet for all the sage, chives, or bay leaves they want. (Our rosemary is too young to let anyone take some yet. But when we had a big bush -- that a cold winter killed -- everyone was free.) And the neighbors on the other side of the fence from our blackberry bush know they're free to take whatever I miss in trimming. (Last year, I thought I was keeping it all in the yard, until it was time for my annual trimming. Whoops! I think one-third of it went in their yard. lol)

Since the end of of block has had locked gates (and we never got the key, when the lock was changed, but didn't notice until last year), most of us leave our back doors unlocked. So when we lock ourselves out by accident, we find the nearest neighbor home to go through their house to go around back into our own houses.

How about not counting on TV coverage for views of city-dwellers? We're not all hoodlums. We've just got problems parking. lol
 
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Ummm, we aren't loners here in the city. I know my neighbors. Joe's grandson (who is in his 30's now) helped me install the screen to my front door after I couldn't do it. Every neighbor has been asking me about John and telling me they're praying. No one honked yesterday when we had to stop traffic while John got out of the car and used his walker to the door before I found a spot to park the car. (They honk when a deliver person jumps out of the car, so it's not like many aren't honkers. lol) Another neighbor offered to help me lug in groceries. (Only three trips, so I was fine.) The biggest complaint of the RNC when they were in town to make G.W. our next President was we were too damn friendly. Oh, and the number one thing I hear from folks in the doctor's waiting rooms for reasons they return to town is because the suburbs are so unfriendly.

Last week I had to go into the Jersey suburbs. (South Jersey, so you cant blame this on city-dwellers moving to the burbs or displaced New Yorkers.) While I was there, I decided to go grocery shopping because it has to be less hectic than city shopping always is. Ends up city shopping is less hectic, and the shoppers were much less friendly than city shoppers.

In reality, I think it's just the same for both places -- if you know someone, you're friendly. If you don't, you're not. At least, unless there is a political convention in town and then suddenly we're all "too friendly." (Seriously? 5/6ths of Philadelphians are Democrats, yet Republicans are complaining because the revivals are too friendly? What is this world coming to?) The Dems were nice to my people's convention several years ago, so I'll be nice to the Dems at their convention. (I'm not waving at Hillary though. I'll smile though. I did wave to G.W.)
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I'm friendly to everyone unless they give me several reasons not to be.
 
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OIC, four suspects, one dead...

According to Dallas officials, one male suspect is dead and three more, two men and one woman are in custody.

According to Brown, police cornered Micah Johnson and negotiated with him for several hours. When talks broke down – they exchanged gunfire with the man. At that point, police sent in a remote vehicle and detonated a bomb – ultimately killing him.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/08/chief-brown-dallas-shooting-suspect-wanted-to-kill-white-people/
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Tonight's news says just one -- the guy who was blown up. First time ever they used a robot to bomb a suspect. And why do they call him a "suspect," when it was so clear it really is the shooter?
 
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