Brexit - Politicians behaving badly.

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Agricola

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If you thought American politicians were a disgrace, then you will be shocked by what is now happening in UK parliament. It makes US politics look very civil and polite.

I have the impression the world now knows about the disgraceful way in which our politicians, Main Stream Media and other Elites have been conducting themselves over implementing the will of the people.

Brexit, to sever all ties from the EU. Three years ago a referendum was held asking the people what the government should do Before the referendum took place, all the politicians gave grand speeches about how they would respect the result and if voted to leave, we would leave with a great deal for the UK or non at all, as a no deal was better than a bad deal. Problem was, they all assumed people would vote to remain, as the majority voted to leave the EU and go our own way once again in the world.

Our Parliament is now being controlled across all parties by Remainer MPs who do not want us to leave. We are at the point of underhand tactics, lies and more lies, mud slinging and the typical Left tactics of shouting down and over the opposition and calling them racist bigots.

Court cases being brought to challenge every single step of the way of the government moving closer to leaving with no Deal as it is somehow unconstitutional. SO far the courts have all ruled against these stupid cases.

I am sick to death of it and could rant for hours with countless examples of the lies and hypocrisy.

This post is already long enough, If you want to debate it, then I will bring examples and show you exactly what is going on.

All those obstructing the democratic process and will of the people should be thrown in prison for treason.
 

Agricola

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Dear God, save us from this mess.

Just when you thought it could not get worse, it has. MPs, including the Conservative rebels who have been expelled for voting against the government are now drawing up plans to pass a law to enforce the Prime Minister to get an extension to leave date. What the EU will say about that no idea, as they made it clear it was OCT 31 and no other extensions would be given. IF this bill, becomes law, which going by the current climate it will, then if the Prime Minister does not ask for an extension to Brexit then he could end up in prison. Utter madness. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49618242
 

tanakh

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Dear God, save us from this mess.

Just when you thought it could not get worse, it has. MPs, including the Conservative rebels who have been expelled for voting against the government are now drawing up plans to pass a law to enforce the Prime Minister to get an extension to leave date. What the EU will say about that no idea, as they made it clear it was OCT 31 and no other extensions would be given. IF this bill, becomes law, which going by the current climate it will, then if the Prime Minister does not ask for an extension to Brexit then he could end up in prison. Utter madness. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49618242
Lunacy certainly has taken a firm grip on Brexit events. It has been suggested that Boris puts forward a no confidence motion in himself and the government and then declares a general election!!
 

calibob

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Lunacy certainly has taken a firm grip on Brexit events. It has been suggested that Boris puts forward a no confidence motion in himself and the government and then declares a general election!!
It sounds like the patients are running the asylum.
 

Agricola

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Extrodinary scenes in the houses of commons tonight as Parliament is suspended as planned. THere is a fine tradiaion where Black Rod is sent from the House of Lords to the COmmons to summon the speaker and members to the Lords for the announcements etc. Its normally a bit of light harted traditional banter but tonight it was something else.

The odious weasel of a speaker, who should remain impartial, but has shown over the years he is pro remain and has manipulated and shown bias and has been very opinionated in matters, which is totally against what speaker should be, launched in to a tirade against Black Rod and stated numerous times he should refuse to go, but had no choice as the suspension of parliament at this time was undemocratic and against the will of the house. After a few minutes of ranting and jeers from the Labour benches and protests from the government benches, he went with the Government MPs. Everyone else remained seated.

Upon return, it is then traditional for the opposition benches to cross over to the Government benches , where people pair off, shake each others hands and file past the speaker and shake his hands.

Tonight, the Government MPs did not return and the Speaker was not at all amused and gave another dig at the government. It was sickening to see just how much he supports Labour, the way they embraced at the end was like a long lost brother returning home like the the prodigal son

So all the nonsense we saw to prevent parliament from being closed down until next month have failed.
 

Agricola

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Clown World in Parliament and the cult of John Bercow
 

Agricola

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Today the Scottish court of judges took less than 5 minutes to declare that the closing of Parliament was illegal. This is the third attempt that the remainers have made. It is clearly a farciical biased and politically motivated decision by the judges and I it holds no value what so ever. HOwever all the remainer MPs are now demanding their clown circus can go back to sitting in Parliament and the suspension ended.

You can feel the bad mood hanging over the country now, everyone is fed up and lack of action. We have to leave, we should have left in April. I hope we leave without a deal.
 

Desdichado

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I paid a visit to Britain back in December/January. I could not believe how confused and chaotic the discourse has become in your fair country. Really, all the newspaper editors should be prescribed Ritalin to keep them centered.

This is just a wandering Yank's observation, but I think Brexit will go through eventually. Elite Remainers hope dragging this out will tire swing Brexiteers into submission, but it will more likely trigger sentiment in the opposite direction. If Boris doesn't make it happen, the Brexit Party will. If the Brexit Party doesn't, some as of yet unknown party will.

The truth is this is one of those things that would've been settled with the threat of war back in the day. We can be thankful we don't live in a time where Britain's only hope for independence involves frigates, destroyers, and tasteless rations.
 

tanakh

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I paid a visit to Britain back in December/January. I could not believe how confused and chaotic the discourse has become in your fair country. Really, all the newspaper editors should be prescribed Ritalin to keep them centered.

This is just a wandering Yank's observation, but I think Brexit will go through eventually. Elite Remainers hope dragging this out will tire swing Brexiteers into submission, but it will more likely trigger sentiment in the opposite direction. If Boris doesn't make it happen, the Brexit Party will. If the Brexit Party doesn't, some as of yet unknown party will.

The truth is this is one of those things that would've been settled with the threat of war back in the day. We can be thankful we don't live in a time where Britain's only hope for independence involves frigates, destroyers, and tasteless rations.
Your right about triggering sentiment in the opposite direction. It already beginning to take effect. People are sick of our Politicians
democracy in the UK has been damaged and those in parliament are to blame. The danger is that extremest parties may gain support
in any future election. At present the opposition parties are running scared of holding one because they will be slaughtered.
 

Adstar

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As an Australian viewing what is happening in the UK i can only see the recent political actions as an attempt to userp the peoples democratic decision to leave the EU deal or no deal... This is a clear act of treason against the will of the people by the political elites..

As for a deal that free trade deal can easily be negotiated after the UK departs the EU.. But it seems the elites both political and media in the UK want to keep that reality hidden.. Lots of countries outside the EU have negotiated trade deals with the EU without any problems, But the elites and their media puppets seem to be doing their best to brain wash the UK populace into thinking if they leave without a deal they will never be able to have a deal.. It's madness..

I hope the UK people will not be hoodwinked by these tactics and deceptions and when the next election comes ( and it will eventually) vote for candidates who hold the leavers position..

Don't let your country become an elites dictatorship that has destroyed democracy.. Stand firm..
 

Agricola

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The antics between the Democrats in the US and our Labour and Democrats has become almost identical. The Remainers voted for government to publish the YellowHammer investigation findings which gives the worst case senario possible as a result of No Deal Brexit.

All through the campaign Main Stream Media and Remainers have been bleating on about how we will sink into an apocolyptic devestation with people dying from no medicine, starving from food shortages, miles of trucks waiting at the ports unable to leave the country.

Further the Remainers have been tripping over themsleves to defend a doctor who was involved with the YellowHammer document who stated people will die. Again we see this happening with US politics with democrats scrambling to defend thier own, most noteably "The Squad".

The governments worst case senario paper states that at worst thing that would happen is that the country would find slightly less choice in some food products. Hilary Ben a Remainer MP who was on BBC, responded with a "Is that it" comment on release of the documents and more people claiming cover ups and so on. This is a direct parallel with the fiasco over Trumps tax returns.
 

tanakh

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The antics between the Democrats in the US and our Labour and Democrats has become almost identical. The Remainers voted for government to publish the YellowHammer investigation findings which gives the worst case senario possible as a result of No Deal Brexit.

All through the campaign Main Stream Media and Remainers have been bleating on about how we will sink into an apocolyptic devestation with people dying from no medicine, starving from food shortages, miles of trucks waiting at the ports unable to leave the country.

Further the Remainers have been tripping over themsleves to defend a doctor who was involved with the YellowHammer document who stated people will die. Again we see this happening with US politics with democrats scrambling to defend thier own, most noteably "The Squad".

The governments worst case senario paper states that at worst thing that would happen is that the country would find slightly less choice in some food products. Hilary Ben a Remainer MP who was on BBC, responded with a "Is that it" comment on release of the documents and more people claiming cover ups and so on. This is a direct parallel with the fiasco over Trumps tax returns.
At some point the Government will have to ask for the extension. It will be interesting to see what the remainders will do if the EU refuses to grant one.
 

Agricola

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At some point the Government will have to ask for the extension. It will be interesting to see what the remainders will do if the EU refuses to grant one.
Certainly will be interesting. I have a few ideas that are not Christian like and involves a mass shooting to resolve this. People are getting so fed up with all the bickering its only a matter of time before someone snaps.
 

Desdichado

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I hope to God it doesn't come to that. It sounds so French.

Certainly will be interesting. I have a few ideas that are not Christian like and involves a mass shooting to resolve this. People are getting so fed up with all the bickering its only a matter of time before someone snaps.
 

tanakh

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I hope to God it doesn't come to that. It sounds so French.
I hope it doesn't come to that either. As it happens its reported that the French are not very keen to see another extension.
 

Agricola

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John Bercow, The Speaker of the House has become more brazen over the years in his political bias. He should have been removed years ago because of it. Today he has shown his contempt for his office by coming out yet again with plans to stop no-deal Brexit. He then has the audacity of making a big song and dance about how the Prime Minister should respect the law, well that is hypocracy in the highest order. BBC article. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49683797

It is traditional that no one stands for election in the Speakers constituancy, however the Government were going to put a candidate up against him to remove him. However Bercow jumped by announcing his retirement at the next general election. Good Ridance.


This is the official government description of the role of Speaker.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/commons/the-speaker/the-role-of-the-speaker/role-of-the-speaker/
Politically impartial

Speakers must be politically impartial. Therefore, on election the new Speaker must resign from their political party and remain separate from political issues even in retirement. However, the Speaker will deal with their constituents' problems like a normal MP.

Speakers and general elections

Speakers still stand in general elections. They are generally unopposed by the major political parties, who will not field a candidate in the Speaker's constituency - this includes the original party they were a member of. During a general election, Speakers do not campaign on any political issues but simply stand as 'the Speaker seeking re-election'.
 

calibob

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@UnderGrace
Many years ago a common Christian conspiracy theory was that the European Common Market (now the EU) would form an unholy alliance with the Illuminati, The Vatican Bank and the World bank and that's what the beast with 10 horns, 7 heads and 10 crowns represents.

Here's the Rothschilds (leaders of the Word Bank) logo:
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Harmony, Integrity, Industry
Possibly globalization? The other, which I subscribe to, is the mark of the Beast will replace currency but it's a power play that won't be entirely successful thus; "The War of Armageddon", will take place between it and all the rest of the nations that resist its power, influence and control. In actuality Satan is pulling most of the strings to Crowned and worshiped instead of the Lord. Satan seeks to destroy everything without mercy. His goal is not to unite the world but rather to destroy Gods creation that he can before his term as the Prince of the World expires.

I personally believe the Petro Dollar will replace the Gold standard and that the USA will go bankrupt in the process. We are up to our ears in debt to the so called 'Federal Reserve Bank (which is not owned or operated by the USA at all) Far more promissory notes than gold actually exists. It's the biggest Ponzi scheme type rip-off in human history.

So whos the great prostitute? The Vatican or the USA?
 

tanakh

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@UnderGrace
Many years ago a common Christian conspiracy theory was that the European Common Market (now the EU) would form an unholy alliance with the Illuminati, The Vatican Bank and the World bank and that's what the beast with 10 horns, 7 heads and 10 crowns represents.

Here's the Rothschilds (leaders of the Word Bank) logo:
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Harmony, Integrity, Industry
Possibly globalization? The other, which I subscribe to, is the mark of the Beast will replace currency but it's a power play that won't be entirely successful thus; "The War of Armageddon", will take place between it and all the rest of the nations that resist its power, influence and control. In actuality Satan is pulling most of the strings to Crowned and worshiped instead of the Lord. Satan seeks to destroy everything without mercy. His goal is not to unite the world but rather to destroy Gods creation that he can before his term as the Prince of the World expires.

I personally believe the Petro Dollar will replace the Gold standard and that the USA will go bankrupt in the process. We are up to our ears in debt to the so called 'Federal Reserve Bank (which is not owned or operated by the USA at all) Far more promissory notes than gold actually exists. It's the biggest Ponzi scheme type rip-off in human history.

So whos the great prostitute? The Vatican or the USA?


My belief that the prostitute riding the beast is neither the Vatican or the USA but Saudi Arabia the centre of a false religion and
whose oil reserves dominate the worlds economies. The beast it rides is a revised Islamic Empire (Caliphate) that ruled the middle east from the death of Mohammed up until 1922 and the Arab league is the start of the ten kingdoms. The seven heads represent
Egypt, Assyria,Babylon,Persia,Greece,Rome, and the Islamic Empire that ruled at its peak an area stretching from India to Spain.
Revelation mentions an eighth kingdom which is also part of the seven this is the revised Islamic Empire. All the Empires listed have one thing in common in that they all conquered and oppressed Israel.
 
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UnderGrace

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@UnderGrace
Many years ago a common Christian conspiracy theory was that the European Common Market (now the EU) would form an unholy alliance with the Illuminati, The Vatican Bank and the World bank and that's what the beast with 10 horns, 7 heads and 10 crowns represents.

Here's the Rothschilds (leaders of the Word Bank) logo:
View attachment 204002
Harmony, Integrity, Industry
Possibly globalization? The other, which I subscribe to, is the mark of the Beast will replace currency but it's a power play that won't be entirely successful thus; "The War of Armageddon", will take place between it and all the rest of the nations that resist its power, influence and control. In actuality Satan is pulling most of the strings to Crowned and worshiped instead of the Lord. Satan seeks to destroy everything without mercy. His goal is not to unite the world but rather to destroy Gods creation that he can before his term as the Prince of the World expires.

I personally believe the Petro Dollar will replace the Gold standard and that the USA will go bankrupt in the process. We are up to our ears in debt to the so called 'Federal Reserve Bank (which is not owned or operated by the USA at all) Far more promissory notes than gold actually exists. It's the biggest Ponzi scheme type rip-off in human history.

So whos the great prostitute? The Vatican or the USA?
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