Can You Still See The Stars From Your House?

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psalm6819

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yes, I see the Milky Way, different times of the year I see Mars and Venus. I live in an agricultural county on the west coast of Michigan. Noooooo factories within county lines!!!!!! no spraying poisons either, most of us have wells.
 
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no spraying poisons either, most of us have wells.
When you travel elsewhere, don't worry. They aren't spraying poison anywhere else either (unless you're referring to pesticides, which are sprayed from very low altitudes).
 
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Angela53510

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Up in northern Canada I see the stars, the Milky Way and the Northern Lights! I did not see the blood moon because it was cloudy and snowing! Sigh!
 

G4JC

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Thankfully I can usually still see stars. There's definitely some notable differences between a contrail and a chem trail. Contrails are natural and dissipate quickly over time; whereas chemtrails will stay for many many hours and slowly plume over the entire sky. Once enough go overhead they create artificial cloud cover - additionally they often form X patterns or Grid patterns.

Are you sure you're seeing chem trails? Are you sure they're not contrails?



Most people who believe this stuff aren't very scientifically literate. Sure, there might be scientists involved with documented studies, but well documented? I'd like to see those studies.
I have several reliable cited sources -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dew
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoengineer
Artificial Clouds That Could Stop Climate Change Receive Investment From Bill Gates
Cloud brightening to control global warming? Geoengineers propose an experiment -- ScienceDaily
 
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Karraster

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Are you sure you're seeing chem trails? Are you sure they're not contrails?



Most people who believe this stuff aren't very scientifically literate. Sure, there might be scientists involved with documented studies, but well documented? I'd like to see those studies.
Obviously you did not watch the video, which makes a compelling case, and see most congressmen and women scattering like roaches when asked for answers as to why America is being poisoned from the skies.

I am old enough to remember what the sky used to look like, and I understand very well what a contrail looks like. If you prefer think I am uninformed, and dismiss it that easily, that is your prerogative.

In my area, they begin with east to west markers at either end of the city, then proceed with parallel lines which cut off after they pass their markers, which is very distinct for a few hours. The population of my city is slightly over 250,000. The next town to the north is about 45 miles away, and when I go there, it's the same thing on a smaller scale. Rural areas are not sprayed around here, only over the cities.
 
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Karraster

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Thankfully I can usually still see stars. There's definitely some notable differences between a contrail and a chem trail. Contrails are natural and dissipate quickly over time; whereas chemtrails will stay for many many hours and slowly plume over the entire sky. Once enough go overhead they create artificial cloud cover - additionally they often form X patterns or Grid patterns.



I have several reliable cited sources -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dew
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoengineer
Artificial Clouds That Could Stop Climate Change Receive Investment From Bill Gates
Cloud brightening to control global warming? Geoengineers propose an experiment -- ScienceDaily
These sources are not truthful, however, if anyone is interested enough they can do their own research.
 
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Obviously you did not watch the video, which makes a compelling case, and see most congressmen and women scattering like roaches when asked for answers as to why America is being poisoned from the skies.
I watched up to the point where they confused contrails for chem trails. It's completely absurd.

I am old enough to remember what the sky used to look like, and I understand very well what a contrail looks like. If you prefer think I am uninformed, and dismiss it that easily, that is your prerogative.
Your memory could be flawed, or you could have lived in an area occupied by fewer/different planes, or the contrails stemming from planes could have changed over the years as new models came out. There are so many possibilities, saying "contrails don't look the same" isn't a valid argument.

In my area, they begin with east to west markers at either end of the city, then proceed with parallel lines which cut off after they pass their markers, which is very distinct for a few hours. The population of my city is slightly over 250,000. The next town to the north is about 45 miles away, and when I go there, it's the same thing on a smaller scale. Rural areas are not sprayed around here, only over the cities.
Sorry, but I have a hard time believing this. I'm sure you're referring to contrails, but I doubt they're as organized as you say. They may seem organized because you see what appears to be a basic pattern, but I highly doubt it's as crisp as you make it out to be. But, I guess it's just your word vs. mine at this point.

Debunked: What In The World Are They Spraying? - Contrail Science
 
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G4JC

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These sources are not truthful, however, if anyone is interested enough they can do their own research.
If you feel neither of the Wikipedia articles were truthful, I encourage you to edit them. Please note that they have become considerably more strict in recent years. See Also: Wikipedia:Citing sources - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Notice that none of stated articles said chemtrails, since in actuality, the technical definition is artificial cloud creation. It is to help stop Global Warming. You can take it up with your local scientific think-tank. :)
 
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Thankfully I can usually still see stars. There's definitely some notable differences between a contrail and a chem trail. Contrails are natural and dissipate quickly over time; whereas chemtrails will stay for many many hours and slowly plume over the entire sky. Once enough go overhead they create artificial cloud cover - additionally they often form X patterns or Grid patterns.



I have several reliable cited sources -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dew
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoengineer
Artificial Clouds That Could Stop Climate Change Receive Investment From Bill Gates
Cloud brightening to control global warming? Geoengineers propose an experiment -- ScienceDaily
I did not see this post when I last responded. I did hear something about artificial cloud creation in the past, but I never looked into it and I honestly never considered artificial clouds as "chem trails". Thanks for the links!

These sources are not truthful, however, if anyone is interested enough they can do their own research.
You should look into everything G4JC linked. You might just find the evidence to be even more compelling. And, more importantly, you might find a peace of mind knowing people in the sky aren't trying to poison you!

Honestly, you can probably hunt down were the planes crossing the sky are coming from. Figure out which facility they come from, then do research on that facility.
 
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Karraster

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"World population needs to be decreased by 50%" Henry Kissinger
"A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." Ted Turner
"In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it." J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier
"We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren't enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage." Mikhail Gorbachev
"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." Prince Phillip
"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club
"“The world today has 6.8 billion people… that’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.” - Bill Gates


The list is lengthy, people of persuasion who have stated publicly, depopulation must happen. It's not a conspiracy theory, it is a fact.

The skies are being poisoned, and it will continue most likely, until Jesus returns. The Bible speaks of "those who hurt the earth" will be punished. What, pray tell, is this speaking to if not deliberate poisoning of the planet?
 
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"World population needs to be decreased by 50%" Henry Kissinger
"A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." Ted Turner
"In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it." J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier
"We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren't enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage." Mikhail Gorbachev
"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." Prince Phillip
"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club
"“The world today has 6.8 billion people… that’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.” - Bill Gates
None of this is evidence that chem trails are being sprayed. I can take these same quotes and argue that our soda's are being laced by viruses that slowly kill us, or that they're communicating with aliens to wipe us out.

Just because people have stated that we need to decrease the population, doesn't mean they're actually doing anything to decrease our population.

If you can find me evidence that these people are actually linked to the chemtrails you claim exist, which still needs to be proven without blind speculation, then you'll have a presentable case.

The Bible speaks of "those who hurt the earth" will be punished. What, pray tell, is this speaking to if not deliberate poisoning of the planet?
It can mean absolutely anything! "Those who hurt the earth" is an INCREDIBLY vague term. It can range from people stabbing the earth with knives, to littering, to bombs being dropped, to catching forests on fire, to pollution, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
 

Nautilus

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"World population needs to be decreased by 50%" Henry Kissinger
"A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." Ted Turner
"In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it." J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier
"We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren't enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage." Mikhail Gorbachev
"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." Prince Phillip
"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club
"“The world today has 6.8 billion people… that’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.” - Bill Gates


The list is lengthy, people of persuasion who have stated publicly, depopulation must happen. It's not a conspiracy theory, it is a fact.

The skies are being poisoned, and it will continue most likely, until Jesus returns. The Bible speaks of "those who hurt the earth" will be punished. What, pray tell, is this speaking to if not deliberate poisoning of the planet?
Its not like over-population is more desirable though...
 

T_Laurich

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Are you sure you're seeing chem trails? Are you sure they're not contrails?
I am pretty sure..... Just saying, if someone has the knowledge about the chemical comps of a chemtrail... They most likely know what one looks like :)

I live in the state that the Govt tried to ignite the ozone layer by detonating atomic bombs in the ozone layer. :)

They have to spray where I live because we have no O-zone layer.

I'll take a picture on monday, and show you my daily commute to college... You can see at least 3-4 trails about a mile thick... Then I will show you my commute back home at the end of the day... And you can see weird wispy clouds covering the sky.
 
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I am pretty sure..... Just saying, if someone has the knowledge about the chemical comps of a chemtrail... They most likely know what one looks like :)
They're not chem trails. They're contrails.

Depending on a variety of factors, some contrails stay fairly compact and others spread. These factors similarly effect the type of clouds we see in the sky, which there are a variety of.

You can see at least 3-4 trails about a mile thick... Then I will show you my commute back home at the end of the day... And you can see weird wispy clouds covering the sky.
They could be chemtrails, but they're most likely contrails.

Someone explained earlier that planes are used in some areas to plant clouds at an attempt to encourage rainfall, which would be another possibility - though in your case it's probably standard contrails and regular clouds.
 
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Have any of you seen the picture of our world at night from space? Makes you want to move to Siberia.

Or seen the city with Christmas lights? As if man can trump God's light.
 
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Jennyyyyy

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"The entire event is visible from both North and South America. Observers in the western Pacific miss the first half of the eclipse because it occurs before moonrise. Likewise most of Europe and Africa experience moonset just as the eclipse begins. None of the eclipse is visible from north/east Europe, eastern Africa, the Middle East or Central Asia."

-From Nasa,
NASA - Eclipses During 2014
 
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Jennyyyyy

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Are you near enough to Pearson to see the planes coming in?

Unfortunately not, I'm south of Pearson :(
I used to take a bus to work where I would go past Pearson all the time, it was nice in the winter time when it was darker at night. It was nice to see the planes take off and land. Super cool.
 
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Unfortunately not, I'm south of Pearson :(
I used to take a bus to work where I would go past Pearson all the time, it was nice in the winter time when it was darker at night. It was nice to see the planes take off and land. Super cool.
Maybe you're nearer the Harbour Airport (Billy Bishop), but most people would hardly know because the 'planes are so quiet there.

We flew out to Calgary last week from Pearson.