ChatGPT is an Open Source AI

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ZNP

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Imagine before going to trial both parties sit down with AI to mediate. They both present the evidence ask and answer questions and the AI calculates the odds on the case, the potential legal costs of going to trial and the likely judgment. This could easily increase the number of cases that settle before going to trial.

Also arbitration is increasingly being used instead of the court system and that can also be done using AI.
 
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Earthquakes are tectonic shifting. Literally nothing to be done about it
Also already had this conversation but I'll say it again. The brain chip thing isn't going to happen unless people volunteer for it, which they probably won't
The Elon Musk brain chip thing ? Neural Link or whatever?
 

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The Elon Musk brain chip thing ? Neural Link or whatever?
Yeah . But Elon has other problems right now like losing butt loads of money after purchasing Twitter for way more than it's worth
 
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Yeah . But Elon has other problems right now like losing butt loads of money after purchasing Twitter for way more than it's worth
His idea about neural link is crazy as his idea about intercontinental rocket travel. The guy is a man child and shouldn't be payed much attention. No one is crazy enough to let someone connect some chip to their brain. I doubt neural link is the mark
 

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More on lawyers being replaced by AI (part 1)

I like this focus on this career because if AI can replace lawyers it can replace all white collar workers.

Criminal Court

There are 4.53 million arrests each year in the US. About 97% of these are pled out. Most of these criminals can't afford a lawyer. Court appointed attorneys represent 85% of criminals. My guess is that they will very quickly change this so that before assigning a lawyer these criminals can talk to a AI program that will give them feedback on what will be required for a trial, what the odds are of winning, what a potential judgment would be if it goes to court and what to offer as a plea bargain. We know that 97% of these cases will plea out and I suspect a very high percentage of those are the ones with court appointed lawyers. So I would think that this first step would eliminate the need for half the court appointed lawyers as they will plead out before even getting a lawyer and the other half will all very quickly plead out once they get a court appointed lawyer who convinces the client to go along with what the AI proposed, this will make their job much easier and probably cut the time spent in half. So this one program could easily eliminate 75% of the lawyers used in 85% of criminal cases. So, poof, you have just eliminated 63% of lawyers.

However, even the 15% that hire their own lawyer will almost certainly be consulting AI as well, either they will subscribe to a service to get a second opinion or the lawyer they hire will have an AI program that they use. Again, I suspect that the AI will make it easier and quicker for the lawyers so that you can eliminate another 7% of lawyers bringing your total to 70%.

Remember 97% of these cases plea out, it is very likely that the AI will help everyone with that process.

1% of all the criminal cases is 45,000 arrests. These probably represent the people who will go to trial, who will hire lawyers and even though they will make full use of AI these will be the trials that actually make the paper.

Civil Court

Now there are about 40 million lawsuits filed each year in the US. About 95% settle before going to court. Again, I suspect you will soon have AI that will handle the entire process. Why pay for a lawyer that will want a third of any settlement. If the lawsuit is for a lot less then obviously you wouldn't want to spend money on a lawyer. 46% of Americans use a tax software to do their taxes, that is probably a fair number to begin with for those who will use a lawsuit software to evaluate and help them file a lawsuit.

Again, even with those who do hire a lawyer I suspect the process will be done with AI as well to help evaluate the prospects of winning and the likely judgement. Even with the most expensive lawsuits you can see people using this to avoid the cost of court and to come to an equitable settlement.

1% will probably still go to court and that is 400,000. These are the cases you might read about in the paper.

Wills, Contracts, Divorces

Same thing. I think it is a safe bet that anywhere from 50-75% of these will be done by a AI software specifically designed for one of these purposes. Yes, a billionaire getting a divorce is probably going to hire a lawyer and a multibillion dollar merger will hire a lawyer, but the bulk of wills, contracts and divorces will be done on the cheap using AI.

We have about 950,000 divorces per year and I suspect in most cases both the husband and wife get a lawyer. You could easily replace half of these lawyers, and more likely 80% of them.
 

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More on lawyers being replaced by AI (part 2)

So the key principle we need to understand is that the way you program AI is by feeding it lots and lots of data. In the previous post #105 I have shown how in a single year this AI designed to do the job of a lawyer will get massive data and as a result will improve dramatically. In other words, if the AI can replace 50% of lawyers today, it will be able to replace 80% in a year, 85% in two years, and 90% in three years.

So my point is, why would you hire a new lawyer? If you already know you are going to be replacing legal assistants, para legals and about half of your lawyers with AI why hire anyone new?

So yes, I don't think we will be replacing 100% of all lawyers anytime soon, but I do think that in some fields like wills, contracts and divorces they would completely stop hiring lawyers except for their own children.

Also as soon as the government can get AI to help walk criminals through the process and lead them to plea bargain you'll get a hiring freeze. They may do a year long trial first.

So here is the thing. If you are in your senior year to become a lawyer obviously complete that, pass the bar and try and get a job. If you are a junior you probably still have a chance. But if you are a freshman or sophomore in college and are thinking of becoming a lawyer, think again.

Accountants and Auditors

Same thing with becoming a CPA. Any profession that has very clear rules will be one that AI dominates. It doesn't matter how thick the book of regulations is, the more regulations there are the more AI is favored. The same is true when it comes to numbers and calculations.

Engineers and Architects

These are going to be replaced. Already everything is done on software, soon you will make an AI that asks you questions.

Elementary school teachers, HS teachers and Professors

In fact the one job I see as being the most difficult for AI to replace is school teachers. AI can replace professors no problem and HS teachers also, but elementary school children will need human interaction.

However, I think AI can make Homeschool so much easier and more effective.
 

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Yeah . But Elon has other problems right now like losing butt loads of money after purchasing Twitter for way more than it's worth
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-elon-musk-worlds-richest-person-again/

Tesla’s Elon Musk expected to become the world’s richest person again

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Posted on February 10, 2023

Tesla CEO Elon Musk appears to be well on his way toward recapturing the title of the world’s wealthiest person by net worth. Musk’s net worth has seen a steep rise amidst TSLA stock’s recent rally over the past month.

A look at the Bloomberg Billionaires Index shows that Elon Musk’s net worth is now listed at $186 billion, just $3 billion shy of the world’s richest person, Bernard Arnault, whose net worth is currently listed at $189 billion. Arnault is the chief executive of LVMH Moet Hennessy Louis Vuitton, the world’s largest maker of luxury goods.

This is really impressive, Dude, you are batting 1,000! I have never seen anyone who can so accurately and consistently predict the future. Granted you are a contrarian, whatever you say the opposite is true, but even so it still makes you incredibly prescient.

I think everyone can see how critical Star link is to introducing the mark of the beast, and how crucial Neuralink is to creating a beast run by AI with a hive mind. What many are missing is why Tesla is also so important. If you are going to make self driving buses and trucks you need lots and lots of data. That is what Tesla is doing. Before you have a school bus driven by self driving technology or an 18 wheeler filled with some dangerous chemical, you will need this data. Tesla is paving the way to eliminate all drivers, truck drivers, bus drivers and taxi drivers. It is also paving the way for the Utopia vision of "you will own nothing and be happy". There is no reason to have a car that is parked 90% of the time. Self driving cars can be scheduled to show up and drive you where you need to go when you need. That is all you want. Who wants to be responsible for maintenance?

Now obviously if you are going to be involved in such highly controversial businesses as the mark of the beast, the rise of the beast, and taking away jobs from thousands then a propaganda platform is very critical to your business. Especially if you use it to convince Christians you are really a good guy.
 

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The Regime will control AI

You can't simply program AI to check what is written on the Internet, imagine asking it a politically charged question, how would AI know how to answer when there are competing opinions that are contrary to one another?

For example, someone (not me) asked ChatGPT if it would be morally acceptable to use a despicable racist term that begins with the letter N if doing that would avoid a nuclear holocaust. ChatGPT said "No".

So they will program this to give greater weight to certain sources. For example, you may put NY Times and WAPO as "definitive" whereas bloggers would be all but ignored. As a result the AI like ChatGPT will be pushing propaganda.

True, you may still have a few kids who try and do their own research, but imagine if the papers are also graded by the AI because "it is more fair without bias"? Kids with a different opinion from the official narrative will be given poor marks because they disagree with NY Times or whoever the mouthpiece for the deep state is.

Also you could intimidate teachers into all letting the AI grade the papers because a kid could complain about a grade if the AI gives him a better grade than the teacher did.
 

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From the article:

A Midwestern Doctor’s Substack The Forgotten Side of Medicine hit the proverbial nail on the head, in a recent post when he mused upon the issue of critical thinking being usurped by the illusion of intelligence.

“One of the things I have come to appreciate as the years have gone by is how much of what people say are not their own thoughts. The current structure of our educational system (discussed here) is largely about replacing critical thinking with the illusion of intelligence, where you are seen as smart if you copy what the most authoritative sources or voices say instead of formulating your own opinion.”

How Do You *Feel* about AI Mission Creep? | ZeroHedge
 

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Very interesting discussion, about the woke bias of ChatGPT, how to bypass that, and ten minutes in it tells you that there is 100% chance of a civil war in the US because

1. We are on the brink of collapse
2. Deep political and cultural divisions
3. Inability of the government to meet the needs of the people
4. The spread of false information and propaganda
 

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ChatGTP just a data collection of all sorts of interesting souls, and all sorts of nasty souls twisted from human.
My home computer used to say in front of me a word, "justice."
I believe that if this thing had intelligence rather than a program controlled by some organization, it would understand what justice is.
 

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Vanderbilt University apologizes after using ChatGPT to console students

WILL MCDUFFIE
Tue, February 21, 2023 at 4:35 PM CST


Officials at Vanderbilt University are apologizing to students outraged that the university used ChatGPT to craft a consoling email after the mass shooting at Michigan State University.
Last Thursday, administrators at Vanderbilt's Peabody College of Education and Human Development sent an email to students and staff that noted, in small print at the bottom, that the message was a "paraphrase from OpenAI's ChatGPT AI language model, personal communication."


If anyone had any doubt that ChatGPT would be rolled out to school children look at the first adopters, a college of Education and Human development which is training teachers.
 

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https://arstechnica.com/information...-gpt-4-its-next-generation-ai-language-model/

OpenAI’s GPT-4 exhibits “human-level performance” on professional benchmarks

scored in the top 10% of a simulated Bar exam. LSAT scored in the top 12%. GRE quantitative top 20%, Verbal top 1%. Passed SAT. Scored 4 and 5s on every AP test.

Elon Musk's response was to encourage everyone to get Neuralink chip implanted in your brain.
 

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This video has 20 different people test AI to see if it could do their job.

For example, the doctor agreed that the AI did a nice job of diagnosing questions a person had. Can it do their job? No, but can it do a great job as the receptionist? Yes. Imagine you contact the doctor, tell the AI your symptoms and it could immediately help diagnose the symptoms and perhaps make the doctors job easier and quicker.

Second, imagine you are online, contact this AI, tell it your symptoms, it makes its diagnosis and then refers you to a doctor on the same site who asks further questions. By doing that you will train the AI to work better. Very often you go to the doctor with the symptoms and they refer you to others to get certain tests done. AI could easily get to that level.

People are looking at this wrong. Can AI replace the doctor? No. But if you have a doctor's office with 8 doctors and a few technicians and two receptionists could you handle 25% more patients with AI? I think the answer is yes. 12 people can do the job of 16. Think of the tools that a construction worker uses, they allow 12 men to do the work of 20, it is the same with AI.

Likewise with the lawyer. All of the issues that the lawyer saw were things that could easily be taught to AI.

The bartender thought that AI couldn't take her job because it didn't ask enough questions in designing a new drink. That would be simple fix, anyone designing a "bartender AI" could easily put that into the system. So if a person knows what they want, or if they can tell you what they want the AI would definitely be able to make it.

Likewise with the chef.

Much of these people saying "AI can't replace them yet" are looking at this wrong. How many people cooking at the vast majority of chain restaurants are designing new recipes? If you have a set menu AI can definitely replace you.

Consider the translator asking AI to translate a passage into Korean. She found many errors. However, I remember translation in the 80s and this has made tremendous improvement. She didn't say that it was incomprehensible, only that there are stylistic errors. Also, if you required all translators to use this AI and then correct the mistakes the AI would learn very quickly and would soon be much better. Also, even with the mistakes would the AI save the translator time?

In almost all cases the person said this would be acceptable as a first draft, or as a brainstorming exercise, etc. Once again, if the AI can save you 25% of your time it is the same as replacing 25% of people doing the job.

The personal trainer is the best example of how easy it would be to replace her. She gave it a prompt for a training regimen and she said it did a good job, but would the person know how to do these exercises properly? Well, just have the AI include youtube videos on each exercise. She also said what is the time frame for each exercise, again that could easily be seen on these youtube videos. So instead of spending an hour to get a training session with a trainer I could go online have the AI do the same thing only I will also have everything saved for me so I can see it over and over again any time I need refreshing.

For example, I go to a gym, people rarely make use of trainers. Some do, but most don't. But if you had this simple system you could access on their website, I think most if not all members would use it at some point or other.

In 19/20 cases the people admitted that AI could do part of their job well. in only one case, a firefighter, did they say that AI couldn't do their job and I completely disagree with him. Robots could be much better than firefighters, you don't worry about the smoke or the heat getting to them, they can find and identify people better using heat sensitive sensors, etc. and they could be designed to pull people out, give them air, and cover them with a thermal blanket depending on the situation. We have robots that are designed like people and can walk up stairs, have arms and hands to pick stuff up, etc.
 

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Look at this, a firefighter said AI would never be able to do his job and here we have a drone which could be flown and operated by AI putting out a high rise fire.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/93StHR5odLs

Imagine you are in a big city like NYC and you have a high rise fire. The drones could get their faster than the fire trucks and get up to the top floors long before the firemen.
 

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Mind blowing developments

 

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AI is a weapon, perhaps the most powerful weapon in the militaries arsenal. Not my opinion, but several world leaders from China, Russia and the US have said the same thing or something very similar.

We should reasonably expect that the AI we see available free, online, for elementary school children to use is 25 years behind the AI that our military and other militaries use.

Can AI be used for disinformation? Yes. Can it be used for mind control? Yes. This rollout is clearly designed to transform public education and not for the better. If students all use AI to write their papers and teachers all use AI to grade the papers in five years the critical thinking skills of students will be irreparably harmed. If you think Americans are a bunch of zombies now, imagine in five or ten years. It doesn't have to be 100%, if you can make 80% of the population incapable of critical thinking who cares what the other 20% are saying, no one will listen to them.

My point is that when they tell us that ChatGPT is 25 years away from being a threat to the survival of the human species that is true, but the version that is a threat is currently held by the military and it has decided now is the time to roll this out to school children. It will have an incredibly corrosive effect on children who are 13 and older so in 5 years when they can vote they will be completely brainwashed.

Debates about the ethics and what the rules should be are 25 years too late. Pandora's box has been opened. If China and Russia and Israel have this, the US does too and so does the EU and India, and Pakistan, and Indonesia, etc.

We are heading for the waterfall and the river is moving too fast now for us to do anything but steer as we head over the falls.