Church of England embraces sodomites

[Gjolll]

Members of the clergy should be allowed to offer blessings to same-sex couples, a report commissioned by the Church of England has recommended. The report, produced by four bishops and chaired by former civil servant Sir Joseph Pilling, does not propose offering a "formal liturgy".

"The whole Church is called to real repentance for the lack of welcome and acceptance extended to homosexual people in the past, and to demonstrate the unconditional acceptance and love of God in Christ for all people."

I never read the love of God was unconditional. It always depended on repentance.

Interestingly there was a dissent to the report by the Bishop of Birkenhead who refused to sign the completed document. He said he was "not persuaded that the biblical witness on same sex sexual behaviour is unclear".

Typical CofE. They always say that a biblical doctrine is "unclear" before recommending abolition. It's what they did with divorce, and what they did with women priests and bishops - made out that the biblical teaching on the position of women in relation to men was unclear. Well I suppose on that point they had the support of numerous American bible commentaries that do their utmost to undermine the biblical teaching on the relation of women to men. Yet apostolic and early church practice is as clear as daylight, just as it was with divorce.

We're seeing an apostate church in the making here - not that the CofE was ever a true church, as it was a State church that is conceptually foreign to anything found in the bible.

 

[Ritter]

This is very sad news.

 

[Isa615]

i always figured God's love for homosexuals was like our concern for a loved one who's addicted to drugs: you love them, but you hate what they're doing to themselves.

 

[Maitreya]

Members of the clergy should be allowed to offer blessings to same-sex couples, a report commissioned by the Church of England has recommended. The report, produced by four bishops and chaired by former civil servant Sir Joseph Pilling, does not propose offering a "formal liturgy".

"The whole Church is called to real repentance for the lack of welcome and acceptance extended to homosexual people in the past, and to demonstrate the unconditional acceptance and love of God in Christ for all people."

I never read the love of God was unconditional. It always depended on repentance.

Interestingly there was a dissent to the report by the Bishop of Birkenhead who refused to sign the completed document. He said he was "not persuaded that the biblical witness on same sex sexual behaviour is unclear".

Typical CofE. They always say that a biblical doctrine is "unclear" before recommending abolition. It's what they did with divorce, and what they did with women priests and bishops - made out that the biblical teaching on the position of women in relation to men was unclear. Well I suppose on that point they had the support of numerous American bible commentaries that do their utmost to undermine the biblical teaching on the relation of women to men. Yet apostolic and early church practice is as clear as daylight, just as it was with divorce.

We're seeing an apostate church in the making here - not that the CofE was ever a true church, as it was a State church that is conceptually foreign to anything found in the bible.

I don't understand why those who develop the self-control to abstain from their conscious sins and to be compassionate, forgiving people; pastors, priests etc should deny ANYONE entry into their church or deny anyone well wishes nomatter what their life choices will be. Happiness, forgiveness and love are free commodities for those willing to give them. Hating despising or shunning gay people gives them ammunition against me and does not show humility on my part. Besides, I don't hate gay people. I have compassion for them.

Jesus said to bless even those who hate you, and to have compassion to those against you. I for one congratulate the Church of England on its decision to bring themselves to a humble position on this matter.

The foremost obligation of the church is to adopt Jesus in its attitude and to have compassion for all people;. We all know that actions speak louder than words. Without basic compassion, respect can never flourish.

The homosexual community will never respect the church establishments of their own choice, if there is no compassion. And as jesus says, as followers, to give it is much more important than receiving it.

 

[Maitreya]

If a gay person has made a choice, what is more likely to help not just them, but others; compassion or hatred?

Can't a gay person show compassion for others, even if they are sinning? Can't a gay person be part of a church community, giving and loving those around them; even if they are sinning? Doesn't a gay person have the ability to feed people, to provide for people and to love people; even if they are sinning?

And isn't a community where people make their own personal choices, a community where people all come together to give to those around them; a community more kind and compassionate than one whose desires to control and judge those around them; as they all are sinning?

I sin, yet I can do all the things I mentioned here. Whether I choose hatred or compassion is up to me.

Do you think a child who is given food cares who is giving them food? Or do they care that they are simply being fed?

'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me'

 

[SonInMe]

There is a difference between love and acceptance.

We, as christians are called to love everyone, even our enemies.

That does not mean we condone sin.

I don't have a problem with homosexuals coming to church if they are seeking God. We all were unsaved once. However there is a huge difference between a seeker and a pastor giving blessings over a homosexual couple.

While we all sin, we all should be and kinda must be repentive. If you are not repentive, you have to doubt your salvation and you should lose fellowship.

If you are not yet a christian and you are truly seeking the Lord ( something I doubt a practicing homosexual would do ) then I say all are welcome.

 

[Ritter]

There is a difference between love and acceptance.

We, as christians are called to love everyone, even our enemies.

That does not mean we condone sin.

I don't have a problem with homosexuals coming to church if they are seeking God. We all were unsaved once. However there is a huge difference between a seeker and a pastor giving blessings over a homosexual couple.

While we all sin, we all should be and kinda must be repentive. If you are not repentive, you have to doubt your salvation and you should lose fellowship.

If you are not yet a christian and you are truly seeking the Lord ( something I doubt a practicing homosexual would do ) then I say all are welcome.

Church membership though is a different story.

 

[SonInMe]

Church membership should be saved people. As a saved person, you must be repentive, wether that means you are celebate or married or dating a member of the opposite sex for a homosexual.

A practicing homosexual should not be a member. Same with people living together out of wedlock or a thief, etc.