Congratulation to President elect Joe Biden

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Curious about his attitude in general, and wish to ask:

Would you submit to an operation if no medical staff were wearing masks?
The masks would have merit if we were seeing sick pple everywhere coughing and sneezing all over everybody and ambulances picking up people from the sidewalks.

Then we have the ridiculously low mortality rates.

Think about it. Why does the news and politicians love masks and get caught without them on?
 

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The masks would have merit if we were seeing sick pple everywhere coughing and sneezing all over everybody and ambulances picking up people from the sidewalks.

Then we have the ridiculously low mortality rates.

Think about it. Why does the news and politicians love masks and get caught without them on?
It seems to be a case of, do what I say, not what I do :unsure::oops:
 
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so, say biden doesn't last his term of presidency, what happens after that ?
does it refer back to trump, or is a fresh new election declared ?
 
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Kim82

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I just heard on the news Russia has started vaccinating its citizens, over 2000 people so far
 
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kaylagrl

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so, say biden doesn't last his term of presidency, what happens after that ?
does it refer back to trump, or is a fresh new election declared ?

Goes to his VP...
 
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FelicityAnn

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I am not an American and don’t like politics at all, with that said, Donald Trump is acting in his position of authority to instill biblical values and principals and fulfil bible prophecy. I don’t understand why so-called Christians/believers don’t want a Godly President. He is working towards a system of values that has been eroded by previous worldly leaders. It’s HIGH TIME somebody started implementing these values. I would love for him to be our President. He has boldness and courage. Just read your bibles about what a godly President can do for a nation. I’m all for Trump as he slowly changes into becoming more Christ-like and changes the USA. SOCIETY NEEDS GODLY LEADERS!
 
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kaylagrl

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is kamala competent ?
If I answered I'd be giving my opinion, so you may want to ask someone else. My biggest strike against her is she has a 100% rating with Planned Parenthood. I can't get past that.
 
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Kim82

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Actually, the UK is about to; I thought they had already started but not so.
What is the forecast for Australia? Will you take it?
 

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Actually, the UK is about to; I thought they had already started but not so.
My Dad said we vaccinated the first person today here in UK🤦🏼‍♀️
 
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how does pfizer biontech vaccine work?

I love this graphical explanation.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine.html

How the Pfizer-BioNTech Vaccine Works
By Jonathan Corum and Carl ZimmerUpdated Dec. 8, 2020


The German company BioNTech partnered with Pfizer to develop and test a coronavirus vaccine known as BNT162b2. A clinical trial demonstrated that the vaccine has an efficacy rate of 95 percent in preventing Covid-19.
A Piece of the Coronavirus
The SARS-CoV-2 virus is studded with proteins that it uses to enter human cells. These so-called spike proteins make a tempting target for potential vaccines and treatments.


Spikes
Spike
protein
gene
CORONAVIRUS
Like the Moderna vaccine, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is based on the virus’s genetic instructions for building the spike protein.
mRNA Inside an Oily Shell
The vaccine uses messenger RNA, genetic material that our cells read to make proteins. The molecule — called mRNA for short — is fragile and would be chopped to pieces by our natural enzymes if it were injected directly into the body. To protect their vaccine, Pfizer and BioNTech wrap mRNA in oily bubbles made of lipid nanoparticles.


Lipid nanoparticles
surrounding mRNA
Because of their fragility, the mRNA molecules will quickly fall apart at room temperature. Pfizer is building special containers with dry ice, thermal sensors and GPS trackers to ensure the vaccines can be transported at -94 degrees Fahrenheit to stay viable.
Entering a Cell
After injection, the vaccine particles bump into cells and fuse to them, releasing mRNA. The cell’s molecules read its sequence and build spike proteins. The mRNA from the vaccine is eventually destroyed by the cell, leaving no permanent trace.


VACCINE
PARTICLES
VACCINATED
CELL
Spike
protein
mRNA
Translating mRNA
Three spike
proteins combine
Spike
Cell
nucleus
Spikes
and protein
fragments
Displaying
spike protein
fragments
Protruding
spikes
Some of the spike proteins form spikes that migrate to the surface of the cell and stick out their tips. The vaccinated cells also break up some of the proteins into fragments, which they present on their surface. These protruding spikes and spike protein fragments can then be recognized by the immune system.
Spotting the Intruder
When a vaccinated cell dies, the debris will contain many spike proteins and protein fragments, which can then be taken up by a type of immune cell called an antigen-presenting cell.


Debris from
a dead cell
Engulfing
a spike
ANTIGEN-
PRESENTING
CELL
Digesting
the proteins
Presenting a
spike protein
fragment
HELPER
T-CELL
The cell presents fragments of the spike protein on its surface. When other cells called helper T-cells detect these fragments, the helper T-cells can raise the alarm and help marshal other immune cells to fight the infection.
Making Antibodies
Other immune cells, called B-cells, may bump into the coronavirus spikes and protein fragments on the surface of vaccinated cells. A few of the B-cells may be able to lock onto the spike proteins. If these B-cells are then activated by helper T-cells, they will start to proliferate and pour out antibodies that target the spike protein.


HELPER
T-CELL
Activating
the B-cell
Matching
surface proteins
VACCINATED
CELL
B-CELL
SECRETED
ANTIBODIES
Stopping the Virus
The antibodies can latch onto coronavirus spikes, mark the virus for destruction and prevent infection by blocking the spikes from attaching to other cells.


ANTIBODIES
VIRUS
Killing Infected Cells
The antigen-presenting cells can also activate another type of immune cell called a killer T-cell to seek out and destroy any coronavirus-infected cells that display the spike protein fragments on their surfaces.


ANTIGEN-
PRESENTING
CELL
Presenting a
spike protein
fragment
ACTIVATED
KILLER
T-CELL
INFECTED
CELL
Beginning
to kill the
infected cell
Remembering the Virus
The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine requires two injections, given 21 days apart, to prime the immune system well enough to fight off the coronavirus. But because the vaccine is so new, researchers don’t know how long its protection might last.


First dose
Second dose
21 days later
It’s possible that in the months after vaccination, the number of antibodies and killer T-cells will drop. But the immune system also contains special cells called memory B-cells and memory T-cells that might retain information about the coronavirus for years or even decades.
A preliminary study found that the vaccine seems to offer protection about 10 days after the first dose, with protection increasing after the second dose.
 

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A preliminary study found that the vaccine seems to offer protection about 10 days after the first dose, with protection increasing after the second dose.
WARNING: NOTHING THAT IS COMING FROM THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES (OR THEIR EVIL BUDDIES IN GOVERNMENT) SHOULD BE TRUSTED.

UNLESS THERE IS A TOTALLY INDEPENDENT, NON-POLITICAL, AND PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENT OF ALL THE HYPE (AND TRIPE), IT COULD ALL BE LIES.
 
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WARNING: NOTHING THAT IS COMING FROM THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES (OR THEIR EVIL BUDDIES IN GOVERNMENT) SHOULD BE TRUSTED.

UNLESS THERE IS A TOTALLY INDEPENDENT, NON-POLITICAL, AND PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENT OF ALL THE HYPE (AND TRIPE), IT COULD ALL BE LIES.
Fair enough. Then please read about how many independent, university, hospital, virologists, immunologists, external and internal auditors, and non Pfizer/BioNTech observers are involved in the process. You will be surprised how many non corporate eyes are on the product throughout the development, testing, and manufacturing. Unless you are a belligerent sceptic who believes every independent, non company observer, tester, external auditor, is a lizard people planted by the aliens you will be comforted by what you discover.