Continued Revival at Asbury College

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ZNP

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Trump would retake the White House in 2020, for starters. Another guy, Dana- something, was "prophesying" some kind of disappearance of the president, along with financial collapse before the 2020 elections. "Financial collapse" as in we need to remove our money from our investments before we lose it all. There were many more like these.
I would love to see a link to one of those. Like Reagan I would like to "trust but verify"
 
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Gojira

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I would love to see a link to one of those.
A friend sent me a link to a YouTube video for one. This was a few years ago.

There were many others I heard on Eric Mataxis' show, one of them predicting that God was going to give the "keys to the White House" to Trump in 2020. I think that IFA might have featured some in their articles, but it's been a few years.

I would need to dig through a lot to find these, but I'm sure this stuff can be looked up?
 

ZNP

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A friend sent me a link to a YouTube video for one. This was a few years ago.

There were many others I heard on Eric Mataxis' show, one of them predicting that God was going to give the "keys to the White House" to Trump in 2020. I think that IFA might have featured some in their articles, but it's been a few years.

I would need to dig through a lot to find these, but I'm sure this stuff can be looked up?
I treat everyone the same, I am just as skeptical of those with the dreams and visions as I am of those claiming they are false. I have watched a few of these ones claiming the dreams and visions were false only to find them less than reputable.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Can FOX News even be trusted any more to report accurately and fairly? Another MSM news source. So they have Tucker Carlson, but he pulls his punches.
Rupert Murdock Wanted Top FOX News Hosts to Come Out and Claim Biden Won
I have no idea I just know the school turned them down.
 

posthuman

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From the president of the school

▾ Click Here—Important Schedule Update from Asbury University's President
As we end this week and approach the next, I write to openly share important campus updates and new plans that have been established.
As an Asbury University leader, there is a tension I am trying to faithfully navigate at this time. On one hand, I humbly recognize we are experiencing a historic moment on our campus. Never in my life have I witnessed such manifest spiritual hunger—from our students to the nations—to humble ourselves and seek the Lord’s face. Books could be (and will be) written recounting the incredible stories and experiences of inspiring humility, altar consecration, neighborly love, and life-changing commitments. When I walk into Hughes Auditorium, I have a firsthand picture of the fruit of the Spirit.
As a university, our first commitment is to foster the minds and hearts of students who have been entrusted to us and who are central to our mission. We know the last week has been a disruption to the continuity of their academic experience. Students have not only had to juggle various campus commitments (academic, athletic, extra-curricular, internship) with our various campus services, but also the throngs of people who have entered the dimensions of their space. For some, this has created a sense of being unsettled and even alienation from their campus community.
While I remain profoundly grateful that staff, faculty, and students get to be a part of God’s unique and powerful work on our campus, I want to be mindful of my mandate as a fiduciary of Asbury’s resources and student-centric mission.
After much prayer and discussion with campus leadership, I am announcing our new schedule for the next week. This schedule is an attempt to recognize and steward this beautiful, historic moment of spiritual renewal while quickly moving toward a more sustainable campus experience for our students that fosters predictability, well-being, and continuity.
Along with a new schedule, we are working with several groups to increase security, prayer and ministry support, event management, and overall logistical planning.
I have been so inspired and encouraged by the life-transforming renewal experienced by students and guests alike. I have also been deeply inspired by the incredible spirit of our Asbury staff, faculty, and students. I have seen men and women go far above and beyond in every way imaginable to accommodate our visitors so they can encounter the Lord on our campus. I have seen faculty and staff work between classes to bring order, usher lines, pass out water, and pray with students. I have had students share their desire to make space for guests to experience what they have.
Never in my life will I forget this. Never in my life have I been so proud to say that I am a part of Asbury University. I write this with tears. The people here are so special.
Thank you for your patience, and thank you for lifting up our school, our mission, and our students in prayer.
— Kevin J. Brown, Ph.D.
President, Asbury University
yes
mrs post has been wondering what the exam schedule at the school was....

:LOL:
 

ZNP

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Yeah, the faculty said it's time to wind it down. Next Wednesday is the last day open to the public, then Thursday is the final day at Asbury; but it sounds like other places have offered to host ongoing services starting Friday:

"As part of Asbury’s intention of encouraging and commissioning others to 'go out' and share with others what they have experienced, evening services will be hosted at other locations and no longer held at Asbury University. We encourage guests to utilize these other designated facilities for worship and gathering. More information will be shared."​
https://www.asbury.edu/outpouring/#schedule
Let's see if the stones cry out -- Are we about to see some even bigger earthquakes?

39 And some of the Pharisees from the multitude said unto him, Teacher, rebuke thy disciples. 40 And he answered and said, I tell you that, if these shall hold their peace, the stones will cry out.
 

ZNP

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Why would anyone be a detractor? Doesn't make sense.
 

PennEd

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Why would anyone be a detractor? Doesn't make sense.
My thoughts exactly.

But you've seen them here. Practically salivating to find some misstep, or doctrine they don't agree with, to use to tear them down. They've started several threads to do just that.
 

maxwel

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My thoughts exactly.

But you've seen them here. Practically salivating to find some misstep, or doctrine they don't agree with, to use to tear them down. They've started several threads to do just that.

Just a few thoughts.


Most of the conservative pastors and educators I know (people serious about their theology as well as their faith) are just politely giving this topic some space.

Why?


1.) Our Hope For Revival:
All Christians should hope for revival, in all places, and at all times.

2.) Occurrences Of Our Age:
However, over the past century, and especially the past few decades, the word "revival" has been used to label, and even market, some pretty odd occurrences... things which should make all Christians a bit wary and uncomfortable.

3.) Prudent Response - Prove All Things:

Therefore, when many of us hear about a new revival, we feel it's most prudent to be polite, say some prayers, keep some distance, and just politely let the event have it's space to unfold. If God is doing something special, then there will be lasting and apparent fruit... and if God is not doing something special, then that will become apparent also. Neither scenario requires my opinion, and neither scenario benefits from my opinion. I can be quiet, and watch, and pray.

Please note, this is not a position of spiritual apathy, or a position of doctrinal neutrality... this is an honest position of "I wasn't there, and I don't know everything."

4.) Final Thought:
I do however wish people could use this opportunity to really talk about the concept of revival... and what it really means.
Although we might, on occasion, see God move in a special way, in a particular time and place... that isn't the only, or even the most normative, manifestation of revival and renewal.
If we are born-again believers, then God's spirit is within us... and whenever we surrender to it... wherever we are... there is revival.



God Bless, and I hope we all experience revival and renewal, wherever we may be.


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ZNP

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My thoughts exactly.
The way I look at it you have college kids worshipping the Lord and being a testimony to the world. Why would anyone have an issue with that?

I also think this may be a fulfillment of prophecy with the concept that pattern is prophecy. As the Lord approaches His second coming we would expect this reception just like we saw in His first coming.

However, if pattern is prophecy and this is just like Palm Sunday in the gospels we would also expect the Pharisees to be complaining about this and trying to shut them up.
 
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I treat everyone the same, I am just as skeptical of those with the dreams and visions as I am of those claiming they are false. I have watched a few of these ones claiming the dreams and visions were false only to find them less than reputable.
Okay!
 

PennEd

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4.) Final Thought:
I do however wish people could use this opportunity to really talk about the concept of revival... and what it really means.
Although we might, on occasion, see God move in a special way, in a particular time and place... that isn't the only, or even the most normative, manifestation of revival and renewal.
If we are born-again believers, then God's spirit is within us... and whenever we surrender to it... wherever we are... there is revival.
Yes.

This is what I believe as well. Revival is just a word. The word is not important. What's important is what is happening, no matter what anybody calls it.
 

ZNP

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Yes.

This is what I believe as well. Revival is just a word. The word is not important. What's important is what is happening, no matter what anybody calls it.
Exactly, revival is a term the historians will determine. It is like the debates about the "GOAT", totally irrelevant to the people on the field.

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” Teddy Roosevelt
 

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The way I look at it you have college kids worshipping the Lord and being a testimony to the world. Why would anyone have an issue with that?
I don't have a problem with kids worshipping the Lord. The problem I have is when a certain form of worship (Charismatic worship) is the only acceptable form of worship. And when praise and worship becomes an end in itself. I find it interesting that when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness He didn't break out in praise and worship, he quoted scripture. God's word is where the power is. Charismatics have brainwashed people into thinking there's something special about praising and worshipping for hours or days on end. There's not; it's just vain repetition.

However, if pattern is prophecy and this is just like Palm Sunday in the gospels we would also expect the Pharisees to be complaining about this and trying to shut them up.
Still going with tried and true Pharisee label to shut people up I see.
 

ZNP

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I don't have a problem with kids worshipping the Lord. The problem I have is when a certain form of worship (Charismatic worship) is the only acceptable form of worship. And when praise and worship becomes an end in itself. I find it interesting that when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness He didn't break out in praise and worship, he quoted scripture. God's word is where the power is. Charismatics have brainwashed people into thinking there's something special about praising and worshipping for hours or days on end. There's not; it's just vain repetition.



Still going with tried and true Pharisee label to shut people up I see.
Yes, I always go to the word to get light and understanding of what is going on.

Did you never read, "out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?"

9 And the multitudes that went before him, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest. 10 And when he was come into Jerusalem, all the city was stirred, saying, Who is this? 11 And the multitudes said, This is the prophet, Jesus, from Nazareth of Galilee.

12 And Jesus entered into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money-changers, and the seats of them that sold the doves; 13 and he saith unto them, It is written, My house shall be called a house of prayer: but ye make it a den of robbers. 14 And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them. 15 But when the chief priests and the scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children that were crying in the temple and saying, Hosanna to the son of David; they were moved with indignation, 16 and said unto him, Hearest thou what these are saying? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea: did ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?
 

PennEd

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Charismatics have brainwashed people into thinking there's something special about praising and worshipping for hours or days on end. There's not; it's just vain repetition.
I am not a charismatic, but you are completely wrong about "praising and worshipping for hours or days on end".


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ResidentAlien

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In David's tabernacle praise and worship went on 24/7 for 40 years non stop
Did Jesus or any of the New Testament authors say we should have praise and worship 24/7? Corporate praise and worship I mean. Of course we should all praise and worship Him continually.