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that was more direct than indirect ....
A direct answer would be, for example 'yes' or 'no'. My answer was indirect, as my answer was based on your question being rephrased.
 
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This is correct, but we choose whether we will serve Him or not.
We CAN choose whether we will serve him or not.

If you are conceding that I am correct, unless I am mistaken why were you arguing otherwise?
 
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Whether or not I go to Hell is not my choice. You would like me to prove to you that God is omnipotent?
We CAN choose whether we will serve him or not.

If you are conceding that I am correct, unless I am mistaken why were you arguing otherwise?
Maybe you should express yourself better.

If we serve God with all our heart we will go to heaven. The choice is ours. We know by serving Him we will end up in heaven (not Hell).
 
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I think I see what you are arguing. We are not the One judging the end destination. God is. So according to you we can't say "I am going to heaven" before we were before the throne of God.
 
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Maybe you should express yourself better.

If we serve God with all our heart we will go to heaven. The choice is ours. We know by serving Him we will end up in heaven (not Hell).
How might I have expressed myself better?

No. The choice is not ours.
 
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I think I see what you are arguing. We are not the One judging the end destination. God is. So according to you we can't say "I am going to heaven" before we were before the throne of God.
It is not 'according to me'. God is omnipotent. He will send us wherever He wishes. He is the Most High.
 
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It is not 'according to me'. God is omnipotent. He will send us wherever He wishes. He is the Most High.
The challenge with this is God cannot lie and cannot contradict Himself. If He tells you this is what you need to enter covenant with Him and your reward is everlasting life in His Kingdom, we can be sure that it will happen. So God is omnipotent, and He will judge you as per His written instruction given to us. He will always hold us to that standard.

He is not sending you where He wishes, He is sending you where you deserve to go.
 
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The challenge with this is God cannot lie and cannot contradict Himself. If He tells you this is what you need to enter covenant with Him and your reward is everlasting life in His Kingdom, we can be sure that it will happen. So God is omnipotent, and He will judge you as per His written instruction given to us. He will always hold us to that standard.

He is not sending you where He wishes, He is sending you where you deserve to go.
Everything exists as per the wishes of the Most High. Whether or not we go to Heaven or Hell is not our choice.
 
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If God cannot contradict Himself or change we know what is needed to enter His kingdom and as He cannot contradict Himself (or change) you will received your reward as per the guidelines in His Word.
That's nice.

As I have said, whether or not we go to Heaven or Hell is not our choice.
 

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A direct answer would be, for example 'yes' or 'no'. My answer was indirect, as my answer was based on your question being rephrased.

i asked you a simple, direct question, and you refused to answer
That's nice.

As I have said, whether or not we go to Heaven or Hell is not our choice.

Jesus Christ is God's Son, and believing in Him is required to go to Heaven.
agree or disagree??
 
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i asked you a simple, direct question, and you refused to answer



Jesus Christ is God's Son, and believing in Him is required to go to Heaven.
agree or disagree??
I apologise, I cannot recall seeing your question.

I agree.