Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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iamsoandso

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it does not answer the OP but ...I could not resist.

I agree that's what I was thinking the whole time but instead of just repeating billions over and over to see who all just wasn't really paying attention I thought 8 million? Some how or another everyone is convinced that deep down here in Texas we have a tent city or something set up that's got 8 million illegal aliens hidden somewhere. I guess it's suppose to be hidden in the deep thicket some where like a concentration camp with guillotines and cages to keep them all in.

I guess there's what 8.2 to 8.4 million people crammed into New York City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City but NY city would really be hard to hide right? Down in Texas we're suppose to have about 8 million illegal's that we're holding up somewhere but to put that into scope that would be lets see....? Hmm,, it would be a tent city the size of Houston TX., pop. 2,302.878,,,and San Antonio, pop. 1,472,909,,and Dallas, 1,299,504,,,Austin, pop. 974,477,,,Fort Worth, pop. 956,709,,, El Paso, pop.677,456,,, and Arlington Texas, pop. 394,602 = 8,078,535,,,(COMBINED)... So wow this tent city,holding camp,,detention center, place, thing ect. that we got in Texas is as large as the top 7 most populated cities in Texas? https://www.texas-demographics.com/cities_by_population I know, I know I shouldn't be scared of this massive place where all those criminal,baby snatching,drug dealing illegal's are being hold up but put yourselves in my shoe's, your talking about my back yard and I don't see it no where..
 
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You're coloring your definitions by a world in which we are enemies with our neighbors., and have to defend ourselves from them.

Jesus told us to instead love our neighbors, and to do good by them.

Tell me again which world you are a citizen of?

Self defense is not a sin, if it was then... God would be a sinner!
He's wiped out entire nations in self defense of His people and His interests . . . and He's going to do it again too!

I'm a citizen of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ... you know, the ONE who will return executing vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Things end very badly for those that do not obey the gospel.

Of course using force in self defense is a last resort and not something anybody should want to do or take pleasure in doing.
 

ZNP

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Joe Biden is a safe bet

With Joe Biden you know what you are going to get, with Trump he is a wild card. You could get three years of peace and security or you could get 1 year of a worldwide pandemic and the "summer of love". With Trump you get 3am Tweets that are provocative.

But with Joe Biden you know what you are going to get. He is a known quantity. War, you bet, this will be a very profitable time to be invested in the industrial military complex. Bankruptcies, absoutely, again, great time to buy a car or house at a bankruptcy auction as long as you move your money to cash. Cheap labor, oh yeah, he'll bring in 8 million illegals to replace the existing blue collar workers who think they should be paid a living wage. Weaponized DOJ? Yep, don't have to worry about those pro life pastors, he'll use SWAT teams to take them down.
 

JTB

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if you're willing to expound on these opinions, i'd be happy to try to understand your point.
Let's define communism... is a fire department, police department, street department, etc. communist activity?
 

ZNP

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Let's define communism... is a fire department, police department, street department, etc. communist activity?
No that is socialism. The community park is communism.
 

JTB

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No that is socialism. The community park is communism.
Socialism and communism are oft thought to be one and the same these days, with many against both.

How is the park communism?

And do you think society and or the individual benefit from either? Would you go back to private fire protection? Everyone being restricted to their yards instead of having a community park?
 

ZNP

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Socialism and communism are oft thought to be one and the same these days, with many against both.

How is the park communism?

And do you think society and or the individual benefit from either? Would you go back to private fire protection? Everyone being restricted to their yards instead of having a community park?
Everyone regardless of the taxes you pay can use the park, it is a "common use". But fire and police are not like that. Go to a neighborhood that is wealthy and they will have a top of the line police and fire. I lived in a suburb of NYC when NYC was very dangerous, but our town was very safe. Fire, police and schools are not evenly distributed, it is based on tax revenue of the residents of that area. However, it isn't like a private club. People realize that I want police and fire to service my neighbor as well as myself because that helps keep me safe. Therefore, it is socialism, not capitalism.
 

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Let's define communism... is a fire department, police department, street department, etc. communist activity?
can we stick with the commonly understood meaning of "capital C" Communism as a system of government?

or are you opposed to that, and simply talking about lower case c type "communism"?

either way, i'm having a hard time equating this with biblical Christianity? thanks for your patience.
 

iamsoandso

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Joe Biden is a safe bet

With Joe Biden you know what you are going to get, with Trump he is a wild card. You could get three years of peace and security or you could get 1 year of a worldwide pandemic and the "summer of love". With Trump you get 3am Tweets that are provocative.

But with Joe Biden you know what you are going to get. He is a known quantity. War, you bet, this will be a very profitable time to be invested in the industrial military complex. Bankruptcies, absoutely, again, great time to buy a car or house at a bankruptcy auction as long as you move your money to cash. Cheap labor, oh yeah, he'll bring in 8 million illegals to replace the existing blue collar workers who think they should be paid a living wage. Weaponized DOJ? Yep, don't have to worry about those pro life pastors, he'll use SWAT teams to take them down.

The "agenda 47" plan by Trump is probably the best plan. After listening to it and reading it the way he's planning on handling certain issues may be the only way to deal with them. The part where he wants to build camps to hold all of the immigrants(legal and illegal) seems to be the only fair way to approach it because it doesn't just go after Hispanics and Latino but instead all foreigners and will get them out of the US. On other issues he several times says he will push the death penalty for anyone caught trafficking humans,dealing drugs(others also) and that anyone who uses drugs will be placed in rehab when identified. He even says he will give family leave to family members so they can take care of them while they get off the drugs. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47
 

ZNP

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The "agenda 47" plan by Trump is probably the best plan. After listening to it and reading it the way he's planning on handling certain issues may be the only way to deal with them. The part where he wants to build camps to hold all of the immigrants(legal and illegal) seems to be the only fair way to approach it because it doesn't just go after Hispanics and Latino but instead all foreigners and will get them out of the US. On other issues he several times says he will push the death penalty for anyone caught trafficking humans,dealing drugs(others also) and that anyone who uses drugs will be placed in rehab when identified. He even says he will give family leave to family members so they can take care of them while they get off the drugs. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47
Ahh, an optimist.
 

ZNP

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just making what a lot of us knew official , putting it on paper.
This is monumental, if they make the machines illegal Trump gets another 6% on the votes. No possible way to steal the 2024 election. With this ruling on the 2020 election they may have to declare that Georgia has to be recounted, and if they do that you would have to do that for every swing state.

The Whitehouse has two options: let the headlines on the news every day for the next six months be dominated with one revelation after another of election fraud, this won't just destroy Biden's campaign but all Democrats (people hate being lied to). The other option, I'll call that the Clinton option.
 

ZNP

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I for one welcome Biden running for reelection. He got us out of Afghanistan, inflation is only up an inch, he is far more hospitable to illegal undocumented aliens, he has a very close relationship with many of these foreign leaders, so much so he has even shared one of his many bank accounts with them, and he'll have a chance to once and for all eliminate all the accusations of fraud. Get those 81 million people out to vote. What is especially good is that they have a lot of evidence that there was ballot stuffing of the mail in ballots, so if they stop that there won't be any way someone can accuse Scranton Joe of having anything to do with that, and now that we have a court ruling that the machines can steal elections we should be able to make those illegal, also helping Joe prove once and for all that he is on the up and up.