Do Cops Lives Matter?!

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Dude653

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I agree. The DOJ report on the Ferguson police department should be sent to every department in the U.S. as a precursor to doing exactly that.

However, this will not stop the African American demographic from engaging in the present levels of criminality, immorality, and dissocialization they do and since they will not then external control is required to regulate it.

The number one reason why African-American social movements to reform law enforcement have failed dismally is because in almost every case, the African-American(s) being touted had a history of committing criminal acts and were in the process of committing criminal acts when they died up to and including assaulting the arresting police officer and trying to take his firearm away from him.

I see most African-Americans supporting criminals, criminality, and immorality solely because the people being regulated by law enforcement for it are black.

Personally, I'm not going to support criminals, criminality, or immorality period regardless of race. If Michael Brown was wholly Caucasian, I wouldn't support him because of that. Dude gets supported or not based on his behavior, the situation, and the context: period.

Why? Because I'm a realist not a racist. Oh but blacks can't be racists because they don't have any power. Tell that to every victim of a black male who's been assaulted, robbed, raped, and/or murdered.
You do make a good point but everytime I look at the Sandra Bland video, I'm reminded of why we need the back lives matter movement. The officer was clearly the aggressor in this situation. The situation could have easily been resolved without violence.Dylan Roof was apprehended without violence and was even taken to Burger King on his way to jail. So apparently talking back to a police officer is a worst crime than murdering nine people in a church. This is a textbook example of Jim Crow reincarnated.
 
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IT's not gun control that is the problem..."if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns'. Mental illness, not having a relationship with GOD, chemical imbalances in the brain, due to drug use, and so much more, is the real issues facing us. Let's give satan some blame on this, shall we?
 
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You do make a good point but everytime I look at the Sandra Bland video, I'm reminded of why we need the back lives matter movement. The officer was clearly the aggressor in this situation. The situation could have easily been resolved without violence.Dylan Roof was apprehended without violence and was even taken to Burger King on his way to jail. So apparently talking back to a police officer is a worst crime than murdering nine people in a church. This is a textbook example of Jim Crow reincarnated.


"Black Lives Matter" are a bunch of cop hating thugs. We have the law and the people to judge bad cops and weed them out.We dont need "Pigs in a Blanket,Fry Em Like Bacon" And innocent cops being murdered in the streets. We have fatherless children now because some thug took a cops life. All lives matter. Black Lives seem to matter everywhere but Chicago,where blacks are murdering each other in the streets.But hey lets not report on that,right liberal media?
 
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You do make a good point but everytime I look at the Sandra Bland video, I'm reminded of why we need the back lives matter movement. The officer was clearly the aggressor in this situation. The situation could have easily been resolved without violence.Dylan Roof was apprehended without violence and was even taken to Burger King on his way to jail. So apparently talking back to a police officer is a worst crime than murdering nine people in a church. This is a textbook example of Jim Crow reincarnated.
The black lives matter movement isn't something we need. Their attitude isn't productive and far from what they preach. Every time they get attention, they insist on shooting themselves in the foot and further promote hateful attitudes towards law enforcement. That's not activism, that's a hate group.
 

Dude653

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The painful truth is that black lights have never measured in this country. Why do you think the KKK has never been prosecuted as domestic terrorist?
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Every time I look at the multitude of videos of black male gangsters murdering convenience store clerks, I'm reminded of why we need capable law enforcement.

The black lives matter movement has already degenerated to a large degree with its members becoming increasingly violent even going so far as to commit acts of first degree murder. They've also begun turning upon each other. No surprises as it was comprised primarily of the same lawless rabble its "heroes" were.

The DOJ Ferguson police report provides the blueprint for domestic law enforcement reform not a lawless organization engaging in acts of wanton violence calling itself black lives matter.

You mention Dylan Roof. He's already been repeatedly raped in jail by two African American inmates, is in serious condition, on suicide watch, and will be facing the death penalty. There's no racial boogeyman behind why Dylan Roof made it to the jail, he fully complied with every instruction the arresting officers issued... apparently he displayed the same passive compliance to the two African Americans that repeatedly raped him in jail.

As for Sandra Blake, clearly the police rapidly escalated the situation when she began arguing with them about putting out her cigarette and resorted to unnecessary violence and excessive force. How she died in her cell is a mystery, however. She had epilepsy but that wasn't the cause of death. The coroner has ruled it a suicide. I don't know what happened but it sounds fishy to me.

We had a law abiding citizen here twirling a garden hose nozzle waiting on his friend's porch for him to get home from work. A nosy neighbor called the police and told them some guy was trespassing on his neighbor's property with a loaded hand gun. The police crept up on him announced and pumped numerous rounds into his chest killing him. The first clue the guy had they were there was when the first bullet entered his chest. They did not announce their presence or identify themselves, they just shot him dead on his friend's porch from the cover of bushes. It was ruled a justified shooting by internal affairs.

The family wasn't having it. They took the police department to court and won a $6.5 million dollar judgement due to the victim's civil rights being violated. Apparently the police can't creep up on someone and murder them from cover for twirling a garden hose while waiting on a friend without paying a steep civil rights fine for it.

But you never talk about those cases. Only black lives matter right? That's fishy.


You do make a good point but everytime I look at the Sandra Bland video, I'm reminded of why we need the back lives matter movement. The officer was clearly the aggressor in this situation. The situation could have easily been resolved without violence.Dylan Roof was apprehended without violence and was even taken to Burger King on his way to jail. So apparently talking back to a police officer is a worst crime than murdering nine people in a church. This is a textbook example of Jim Crow reincarnated.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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False. Take a few U.S. history classes at your local community college. Not only have black lives historically mattered but they presently hold the oval office, head the Department of Justice, sit in the Supreme Court, and the legislature of both houses. They matter at all levels of government, the military, academia, and private businesses.

You're making a false assertion. As for the 6,000-8,000 KKK members the SPLC estimates still exist in the U.S., they have no power in this modern PC culture of over 320 million people except on talk shows like Jerry Springer.


The painful truth is that black lights have never measured in this country. Why do you think the KKK has never been prosecuted as domestic terrorist?
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Correction: Dylan Roof was not raped in jail. That was false information propagated by numerous websites and I got got as they say by it initially but on further inspection it's not true.
 

Dude653

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You know why the KKK wear masks? Because when they are finished at the Klan rallies they go back to being police officers, judges, congressman....
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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We've already covered this. Their may be a couple hundred KKK in the entire country who are police officers and the policy from the federal government on down is automatic discharge when that is uncovered. You're running after a boogeyman. The real problem in the black community isn't a boogeyman, but their culture... a culture that propagates immorality, fatherlessness, criminality, ignorance, a victim mentality, false worldviews, etc... etc... etc... across the country. That's the real problem.
 

Dude653

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Remember that town in Mississippi just recently when almost the entire police force quit after a black mayor was elected?
 
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Time to start considering some type of gun control. Not saying they'll get rid of the guns totally, but it's pretty clear something has to be done.
Sure, gun violence increase so we take gun out of the hands of responsible law abiding citizens. googly eyes say, what !
 
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You're a speck on the map with only 11 million people. We have more than 320 million people on a land mass that's 9.842 million km.

In 2012, Belgium's murder rate was 1.6 per 100,000. In 2012, the U.S. murder rate was 4.5 per 100,000. But, if you subtract African Americans (who represent about 13% of the U.S. population), the U.S. murder rate drops in half making it comparable with Belgium only without all the leftist totalitarianism. If you just compare the white demographic for homicide rate in both countries, the U.S. rate is actually lower than Belgium. Think about that.

For perspective, El Salvador's murder rate is trending at 96.8 this year: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...-skyrockets/RnCTlaZILn10qLJuIvZ9pL/story.html

Oh, and El Salvador has relatively strict gun control laws in place. El Salvador requires a full background check on every applicant every time a gun is sold and the government reserves the right to deny these gun permit application at their sole discretion as El Salvador has no second amendment. Furthermore, the government maintains a registry for every gun in civilian hands, conduct buy back programs amongst the civilian population, and by law anyone convicted of a criminal act cannot ever legally own a firearm.

Yet their murder rate is 96.8 per 100,000 people.

You might want to read this 2011 World Bank study which found that there was little correlation between the estimated number of civilian-owned guns and homicide rates.
Thanks for adding your perspective to it. I think it's sad that half of all murder cases are executed by African Americans. Especially because I always get the idea - which is true for a large part of that community - that African Americans are decent people, they are pastors, they go to church, you see them wearing suits and all and they are even in politics (Ben Carson, for example). I think it's sad that after well over 200 years there's still some kind of division between what I call European Americans and African Americans. How do you think it comes that so many African Americans commit violence and murder more often than European Americans? Even most of the abortions are done by African Americans. I'm not being racist, they are really great people, but a large part of that community is at the bottom of the society - of course many others aren't (Ben Carson)! Here in Belgium, Africans have a much better reputation than Arabs. Africans are way better integrated than Arabs here.
 
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Brother_J_BELGIUM

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Liberals conceal the fact that most gun deaths in America are actually suicides, not murders or accidents and that the US also has a relatively low rate of overall suicide (e.g. we rank 50[SUP]th[/SUP] in the world with nations like Japan, Russia, South Korea and Belgium most which show higher suicide rates than our own despite much tougher gun laws).
I didn't knew that about Belgium but actually I kinda did... Whenever world statistics are brought up, we are almost always at the bottom of the list. Belgium has the most dense highway network and the longest traffic jams in the world. Belgium has more concreted surface than any other country in the world (Vatican City excluded). Wherever you are, there's always a highway or a city five minutes driving from where you are. They say the high number of suicides here is because most people live in cities, which is depressing of course if you have ever been there. Japan and South Korea share the same story. They have a lot of large cities there and most people live in the cities.
 
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Sure, gun violence increase so we take gun out of the hands of responsible law abiding citizens. googly eyes say, what !
How many times am I going to have to say gun control does not equal total disarming?

I see some in the other topic want to mock against their own understanding and say we should ban sweets. I will play the bane of mockers then and say let it be done as they themselves have said. Consider for instance the chocolate industry. The industry for those sweets and many more is rife with corruption and kills and oppresses hundreds and thousands every year, even now as we speak. It is full of unjust slavery and that sweet chocolate you eat was picked by the hands of oppressed children, some even kidnapped or sold by their own parents into bondage and yea they are even abused by their overseers! So just the same as they liken sweets unto guns in their own ignorance, so shall I play into it.

One doesn't need to take away all your chocolate bars to support getting some chocolate control reforms to do that which is right and try to reduce and/or eliminate the terrible oppression done unto people, even children, by the chocolate industry.
 
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No, enlighten me. What was the name of the town so I can research it.

Remember that town in Mississippi just recently when almost the entire police force quit after a black mayor was elected?
 

Dude653

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Oops..it was Parma Missouri.... it was a small town with only six police officers but it still the same principal
 
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Oops..it was Parma Missouri.... it was a small town with only six police officers but it still the same principal
Will your lies never cease? The fact Tyus Byrd is black is NOT the reason the police chief, assistant police chief, and the other officers quit. From the London Daily Mail, about as liberal a paper as you can find.

Race did NOT play a role in Missouri town's employees stepping down after black mayor voted in

  • Tyus Byrd, who is black, was recently elected mayor of Parma, Missouri
  • She beat the white current mayor Randall Ramsey
  • Six city officials quit their jobs shortly after Byrd won
  • Two of those individuals are Trish Cohen, Parma's former police chief, and Rich Medley, the town's former assistant police chief
  • Cohen has said she and Medley feared for their safety, since their home addresses had been shared online by Byrd's family members
  • Medley has said after being told by Byrd's supporters that Parma's police officers were going to be fired, he decided to quit
  • Byrd has said she doesn't know what the 'safety issues' were and that she 'never said anything about cleaning house'
You continue to attempt, through lies, obfuscation, and the impugning of good people's reputations, to promote the agenda of the liberal/socialist/anarchist agenda, and should be banned, if only the ownership saw consistent fraud as a bannable offense.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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First of all, Parma is a microscopic town of 700 people. Attempting to project the situation in Parma upon the U.S. population of more than 320 million people is like trying to project Westboro Baptist's 40 members upon the world's Christian population of about 2.2 billion people.

Unfortunately, progressive liberals have very disingenuously done both (see Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' to understand how progressives think and why they engage in such disingenuous behavior as a matter of course to achieve their socio-ideological objectives).

That aside, you're correct. The progressive media simply followed their script and spun the story to comport with their ideology rather than simply report the truth.

And they did so even after Mayor Byrd told them that "she did not believe race played a role" in the city employees decision to quit.


See: Black mayor was NOT the reason Parma, Missouri's police force quit | Daily Mail Online




The fact Tyus Byrd is black is NOT the reason the police chief, assistant police chief, and the other officers quit.