Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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Tamarisk

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This is the inflection point I mentioned earlier:

Q: You voted for these people who want mentally ill men who dress as women to share a bathroom with my young daughter!?

A: I just see thing’s different than you. I’m not your enemy. I hope you have a great weekend.

At some point men wake up and realize they've been getting kicked with impunity even by some who use Christ's name. It's good that most are still fighting back through prayer and the electoral process.
Hold on just a sec. That’s one of many points where I part ways with the Democrats. I am not a robot.

A man is a man and a woman is a woman regardless of what clothes they wear, Chemicals they use or Surgeries they have. They can do all that stuff if they are over 18 but they shouldn’t be able to do it to a child under 18 or use the wrong bathroom. Please do not lump me into that crowd.
 

Dude653

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Yep, says the guy who says Islam is a branch of Christianity.
Actually that's not what I said. I said it's a spin-off of Christianity, just like Christianity is a spin-off of Judaism
That's why they're all three called abrahamic religions
 

Squigglylines

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That is what they all claim but Abraham's faith is completely separate from the spirit of the three frogs that lead the earth to Armageddon.
 

ZNP

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Actually that's not what I said. I said it's a spin-off of Christianity, just like Christianity is a spin-off of Judaism
That's why they're all three called abrahamic religions
They are all three Abrahamic religions, Islam is related to Abraham not to Jesus. It was created by a Jewish priest, not by a Christian priest. Islam presents the counterfeit Messiah.
 

studier

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Hold on just a sec. That’s one of many points where I part ways with the Democrats. I am not a robot.

A man is a man and a woman is a woman regardless of what clothes they wear, Chemicals they use or Surgeries they have. They can do all that stuff if they are over 18 but they shouldn’t be able to do it to a child under 18 or use the wrong bathroom. Please do not lump me into that crowd.

Yet you vote for the crowd that supports those things and thereby lump yourself in with them. And then you claim you're morally upset by something Trump said about how he's lived in an arena most of us cannot imagine.

Q: Did you vote for the admin that supports the erasure of protecting children and God's creating in kinds?

A: Why, yes, I did, but I part ways with them on those things.

Q: You do realize that you supported those things by voting for them, right?

A: Well, their wealthy, celebrity opponent used to grope some women and was stupid enough to talk about it.
 

Tamarisk

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Yet you vote for the crowd that supports those things and thereby lump yourself in with them. And then you claim you're morally upset by something Trump said about how he's lived in an arena most of us cannot imagine.

Q: Did you vote for the admin that supports the erasure of protecting children and God's creating in kinds?

A: Why, yes, I did, but I part ways with them on those things.

Q: You do realize that you supported those things by voting for them, right?

A: Well, their wealthy, celebrity opponent used to grope some women and was stupid enough to talk about it.
You continue to engage in bad faith and put words into my mouth. Therefore, you were blocked. Have a nice life.
 

Komentaja

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Whelp, you flipped that upside down! I guess I never thought about that one. You're right, they have tried everything short of killing him to stop him getting elected. That right there has to make you ask why is he worth such a huge effort.
This comment didnt age well, he was just a victim of an assassination lol.
 

ZNP

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This comment didnt age well, he was just a victim of an assassination lol.
Yep. that was a response to my comment:

To my observation the ones who are betting on an election in November leading to a new administration at the end of January coming to the rescue are the ones who are sitting back. They are not going to give up power. People who commit treason have already crossed that line and there is no going back. They will have a false flag event or we will be attacked by Russia etal. One way or the other they will do whatever is necessary to not give up power because if they do so they will hang for treason.

Which has aged very well.
 

studier

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You continue to engage in bad faith and put words into my mouth. Therefore, you were blocked. Have a nice life.
All you had to do is continue to try to show me where I'm wrong. Reality can be tough for us when what we say makes no sense and someone is willing to challenge us. I think what's taking place is more of us are willing to see and call out the nonsense of these positions and cease giving so much benefit of the doubt.
 

Billyd

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Let's put the garbage to rest. I guarantee you that if Trump wins the election, he will be the president after January 20, 2025, and he will leave office on January 20, 2029. The same is true of Harris unless she is reelected for a second term.

Chances are I won't be here in 2029 to remind you, so bookmark my guarantee.
 

Nehemiah6

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The same is true of Harris unless she is reelected for a second term.
Why bring Harris up? She may not even be the candidate. And you cannot say that Harris would do the right thing since she has never done the right thing. She does not even belong there.
 

ZNP

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Why bring Harris up? She may not even be the candidate. And you cannot say that Harris would do the right thing since she has never done the right thing. She does not even belong there.
Doesn't belong there? I thought the Obama's backed her, isn't that how the Democrats choose their candidate?
 

Nehemiah6

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Doesn't belong there? I thought the Obama's backed her, isn't that how the Democrats choose their candidate?
They choose their candidates on a whim and Obama had serious concerns about her as long as he was backing Biden. Getting back to Kamala, Trump did not pull any punches and got a lot of applause. That's the only way to deal with biased hostiles:

“I’m Not Sure If She’s Indian Or Black”: Trump Zings Kamala, Dodges Barbs As Audience Laughs At Black Journalists Convention (infowars.com)

Kamala is Indian for Indian voters and Black for Black voters (and the evidence s there for all to see). How such a person even got within a 100 yards of the White House is amazing.
 

tedincarolina

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Turn about is fair play and RA won't see this anyway. For the life of me I look at the mess the country is in and can't understand why anyone would not vote, or vote other than conservative, now that everything has been fully revealed about Biden's health. Other than just flat out hate for Trump, which I don't understand either, why would you sit back and watch this dumpster fire instead of helping us put it out?? I don't understand the apathy. I don't even have children, and if I had it would be an even bigger reason to make sure I voted the Marxists out in 2024. What is the lack of concern with Christians, this apathy? Can someone calmly explain why we should risk a Biden/Harris four years?
Hi @ThereRoseaLamb

I can only speak for myself concerning my understanding of the political issue that is being manifest in this election, but I would challenge some of your claims.

When you say that the country is in a mess, is this a phenomenon that has just popped up in the last 3 years? I mean, from where I sit in my small little city, I see that America has had problems politically and morally for quite a while now. So, I'd question that this is something that the present administration has brought on. We, as a nation, have been fairly supportive of the immoral sexual practices of the world for quite a few decades now. We also, at this point in time, accept divorce as pretty much a normal occurrence and don't seem a bit bothered by that, and haven't been for at least 40 years. And that's exactly what the Scriptures portray will be happening. So, I can't understand how you seem to think this is some new problem.

But the GOP contender doesn't have any answer for that phenomenon. And if we really are a democratic republic, then those ungodly attitudes are likely to get more support than any godly initiatives, as far as the future of our entire nation. Look, we are not a godly nation. Maybe some time 300 years ago one might consider that our rule of law and Constitution certainly gave a nod to God, but those days are long gone and mankind continues to fulfill Paul's claims about the sin that festers and grows to the point that people are inventing new ways of doing evil and not only doing such things but giving approval to those who do them. I'm sorry, but as I understand the Scriptures, the world, overall, is going to hell in a hand basket.

Now God asks His children not to be a part of that. We are to be about promoting and proclaiming the truth of God's word and His offer of salvation through the blood of His Son. That doesn't mean that we can't vote for who we feel is the best person to run the nation.

Having said that, here's why I can't support the likes of a man like the GOP contender, no matter that I know the world is going to hell in that hand basket. He is morally bankrupt. Now, you can argue that the policies and laws and considerations of the entire governmental system of the United States is not in line with what God asks of us, but I'm not considering any of that. I'm just looking at the two people that are standing before us and asking for our vote to support them as the next leader of the nation. The GOP contender is morally bankrupt himself. He is a compulsive liar and preener of his own beauty and greatness. Literally everything he claims about himself is that he's the best that has ever existed in whatever he says and does. Friend, that's just an impossibility. And I saw his first administration. So I can say with all truth that isn't true. He has not been the best president. He has not been better to blacks than anyone has ever been. He is not nearly so grand and glorious as he holds himself up to be. He's a liar. He's a fornicator. He claims that he's never needed God's forgiveness. Just that alone causes me to question why believers would think that he's some greater person than anyone else. He believe, honestly believes and understands in his mind that denigrating and disrespecting people is how you get things done. I'm sorry, but there is nothing godly in that. In fact, God's word says that we give everyone the respect and honor that they are due.

Now, let's look at VP Harris and the type of person that she is. She's only been married once. So, on the matter of a godly marriage, that puts here ahead of the GOP contender. Now, whether she tells lies or not is always going to be seen differently by different folks, but for me, I don't think I've heard anything near the amount of lying that I hear from the GOP contender. So while she likely isn't perfect in her abilities at being truthful, I find that her words are more reliable than his. She is able to work with others fairly well. Yes, she's had those in her past that have had issues, but then, if you've read about those who have been aligned with the GOP contender, about 80% of the people who have ever worked with him have some fairly derogatory stories to tell about him and his attitude towards others.

Despite the fact that people say they don't want a politician, there is something to be gained by having experience with the system, if you're going to start running that system. The GOP contender, even now, is trying to sell you the idea that now that he's had four years of experience, now he knows how to get things done. Now, I doubt that, but my point is that he himself admits now that he didn't have any idea what he was doing or how our government works. I mean, I still chuckle over his early comment after just becoming president and making his one feeble stab to wipe out the ACA with his new and glorious health plan, which as far as anyone knows doesn't exist, and saying, "who knew that healthcare could be so difficult?" Well, if he had been awake and aware when the present healthcare plan was passed, he should have known how difficult passing a healthcare plan would be. Yet his own words condemn him that he had no idea. He honestly thought that he could just walk into the office on day one and just wipe it all away. Not the performance of someone who knows how our governmental system works.

So, for me, on demeanor, Harris wins. For me, on honesty, Harris wins. For me, on experience in working within the confines and laws of our nation, Harris wins. I'm just not willing to put some bully that can't respect others as the leader of my nation. You're free to vote for him if you like. I mean this is America where everyone gets a vote. But my vote will be for the person I feel is the most mature and experienced for the job. Harris wins.

And really, do you even know what Marxism is? Because nothing that you see going on in the political arena of the United States at this very moment in time, has any ties to any Marxist ideology.

Would you consider my response to be a calm and concise answer to your questions?

And of course, my final word would be that the GOP contender had a four year term. Were all these problems not there when he was in office? Did we not have just as much sexual immorality while he was the leader? I mean, how hypocritical can it be to think that someone as immoral as he, can set the nation back on some moral track that you think we need to get on.

God bless you and use your vote wisely.
Ted
 

studier

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TDS Ted who thinks calm means wise.

When all we have is the lesser of evils, we take the lesser of evils and this is not necessarily the person but is most certainly the policies. And morality is a wider topic, wider than personal fornication issues, as if we know everything about the two candidates. Morality is a Greek discussion whereas Righteousness is a Biblical discussion. So, what is the comparison of the two choices? Which set of policies accords better with Righteousness? Maybe Christians should be better at judging this than they are.
 

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And really, do you even know what Marxism is? Because nothing that you see going on in the political arena of the United States at this very moment in time, has any ties to any Marxist ideology.
Yeah, this is the new trend.
I win the argument by throwing around the most offensive labels I can think of, everybody is also Hitler these days.
 

HeIsHere

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Now, let's look at VP Harris and the type of person that she is.
You seem to think she is more moral that Trump in her personal life because she has been married once.... how about her life prior to marriage do you know much about that?

How about how she gained political power and status do you know much about that?

There are intelligent women who have worked hard and have acquired "success" in their fields based on hard work and merit, she is not one of them.

You are falling for a facade, dig a little deeper to her first term in office and how many resigned because she was a bully behind the scenes.
 

HeIsHere

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TDS Ted who thinks calm means wise.

When all we have is the lesser of evils, we take the lesser of evils and this is not necessarily the person but is most certainly the policies. And morality is a wider topic, wider than personal fornication issues, as if we know everything about the two candidates. Morality is a Greek discussion whereas Righteousness is a Biblical discussion. So, what is the comparison of the two choices? Which set of policies accords better with Righteousness? Maybe Christians should be better at judging this than they are.
In politics we talk about style over substance.

Substance has waned considerably over the years, but I cannot for the life of me see how anyone can listen to Harris gibberish and even find style she relies on poor disingenuous imitation of others.
 

Nehemiah6

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He is morally bankrupt. Now, you can argue that the policies and laws and considerations of the entire governmental system of the United States is not in line with what God asks of us, but I'm not considering any of that.
Since you are seriously suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome -- which is basically HATRED, you have already forfeited the right to judge Trump. You cannot even write his name and call him "the GOP contender" *(which is disrespectful and contemptuous). He loves America and Americans, but you hate him because he stands for what is right, just, good, lawful, and Constitutional.
Now, let's look at VP Harris and the type of person that she is. She's only been married once. So, on the matter of a godly marriage, that puts here ahead of the GOP contender.
Now you have simply lied through your teeth. Harris climbed the political ladder by having illicit affairs. And since she stands for everything ungodly, you are praising an evildoer because you hate Trump.

Looks to me that Ted is a Leftist plant who can come to this forum to attack Donald Trump and promote evil and destructive Kamala (Scamala) Harris.