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Let's examine the lie that you have to have a digital ID injected into a person to catch these criminals because they were wearing masks.

1. They arrested more than 30 people. Look at their phone records, see what they have posted online, investigate all their contacts and those who respond to their posts.

2. Use geotagging, many people probably had their phones on them. You can locate people within 10 feet of their location with a time stamp. Therefore you will have hundreds more that you can investigate. You can subpoena their phones for pictures they may have taken. You can investigate their phone calls, text messages, emails and online posts.

Put those two together and you should be able to get over 100 people that you can charge with crimes but then you go hard on them questioning them, showing phone records. Expert interrogators can get a whole lot more information. You can also have enough evidence to pull in another 100 people who you strongly suspect of crimes, and again, interrogators can do a wonderful job of getting information from people, making them sweat, thinking they are being ratted out, and you will get more confessions and witnesses. If you are serious about this the 30+ who have been arrested can turn into 120 who are convicted.

Now suppose five people come from the same mosque, that in turn gives the government sufficient evidence to subpoena a whole lot more, put undercover agents into that mosque, and investigate everyone who attends that mosque especially background, where they came from, are they coordinating with anyone overseas.

My point is that in addition to the 120 who get felonies on their record and spend at least six months in jail you can also get tremendous information for a much wider net. Over the next two years if it was a serious goal you could probably identify everyone who was at these protests, everyone who organized them, and everyone who is inciting them.

But instead you will give the government this massive power of injecting digital ids into each person like you would with a cow and letting them control your entire life.
Don't let any crisis go to waste.
 

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Let's examine the lie that you have to have a digital ID injected into a person to catch these criminals because they were wearing masks.

1. They arrested more than 30 people. Look at their phone records, see what they have posted online, investigate all their contacts and those who respond to their posts.

2. Use geotagging, many people probably had their phones on them. You can locate people within 10 feet of their location with a time stamp. Therefore you will have hundreds more that you can investigate. You can subpoena their phones for pictures they may have taken. You can investigate their phone calls, text messages, emails and online posts.

Put those two together and you should be able to get over 100 people that you can charge with crimes but then you go hard on them questioning them, showing phone records. Expert interrogators can get a whole lot more information. You can also have enough evidence to pull in another 100 people who you strongly suspect of crimes, and again, interrogators can do a wonderful job of getting information from people, making them sweat, thinking they are being ratted out, and you will get more confessions and witnesses. If you are serious about this the 30+ who have been arrested can turn into 120 who are convicted.

Now suppose five people come from the same mosque, that in turn gives the government sufficient evidence to subpoena a whole lot more, put undercover agents into that mosque, and investigate everyone who attends that mosque especially background, where they came from, are they coordinating with anyone overseas.

My point is that in addition to the 120 who get felonies on their record and spend at least six months in jail you can also get tremendous information for a much wider net. Over the next two years if it was a serious goal you could probably identify everyone who was at these protests, everyone who organized them, and everyone who is inciting them.

But instead you will give the government this massive power of injecting digital ids into each person like you would with a cow and letting them control your entire life.
Over 800 arrested across France in 3rd night of riots after fatal police shooting of teen

A total of 875 people were arrested, 3,880 fires were started, 2,000 vehicles were burned and 492 buildings were damaged nationwide on Thursday night as curfews were in place in multiple cities, according to the French Ministry of the Interior. About half of the arrests were reportedly made in the Paris region alone.


https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...night-protests-after-fatal/story?id=100517551
 
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Over 800 arrested across France in 3rd night of riots after fatal police shooting of teen

A total of 875 people were arrested, 3,880 fires were started, 2,000 vehicles were burned and 492 buildings were damaged nationwide on Thursday night as curfews were in place in multiple cities, according to the French Ministry of the Interior. About half of the arrests were reportedly made in the Paris region alone.

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...night-protests-after-fatal/story?id=100517551
This sounds Islamophobic to me... except ABC News, a Leftist rag at this point, never describes who actually rioted.
 

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This sounds Islamophobic to me... except ABC News, a Leftist rag at this point, never describes who actually rioted.
I think that we have an alliance of Russia and Islamic nations described by Ezekiel working together.
 

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On what do you base that?
Over 800 people were arrested over Thursday night after protesters burned 2,000 cars, damaged nearly 500 buildings, looted stores and clashed with riot police officers in Nanterre and dozens of cities around France, according to the Interior Ministry.

All this because a 17 year old was shot fleeing from police. From what I understand the police did not violate the law. In the US we had riots in one city for one night. Here they have riots in dozens of cities, thousands of cars, hundreds of buildings, and 800 people arrested, and this has gone on for four nights? Looks much more like an attempt to destabilize the country than a reaction to police brutality.
 
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Over 800 people were arrested over Thursday night after protesters burned 2,000 cars, damaged nearly 500 buildings, looted stores and clashed with riot police officers in Nanterre and dozens of cities around France, according to the Interior Ministry.

All this because a 17 year old was shot fleeing from police. From what I understand the police did not violate the law. In the US we had riots in one city for one night. Here they have riots in dozens of cities, thousands of cars, hundreds of buildings, and 800 people arrested, and this has gone on for four nights? Looks much more like an attempt to destabilize the country than a reaction to police brutality.
Our riots extended weeks, even months, and were all over the nation, too. 2020 was awful. The summer of love, you know.

Could be Russia, though I'm not sure why unless France is being an especial pain to Putin in Ukraine?

Otherwise, I put all of this stuff on the WEF folks, George Soros, Larry Fink, etc.

Or, you know, it could just be Muslims being Muslims. Yes, there are many Muslims who live peaceful lives and love living in western nations. But, an inordinate amount have a major stick up their butts.
 

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Over 800 arrested across France in 3rd night of riots after fatal police shooting of teen

A total of 875 people were arrested, 3,880 fires were started, 2,000 vehicles were burned and 492 buildings were damaged nationwide on Thursday night as curfews were in place in multiple cities, according to the French Ministry of the Interior. About half of the arrests were reportedly made in the Paris region alone.

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...night-protests-after-fatal/story?id=100517551
and Macron condemned the shooting, then toddled off to see Elton John's farewell concert as Paris and Nanterre burned.

hhhhhhhhhhhh!
 

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Our riots extended weeks, even months, and were all over the nation, too. 2020 was awful. The summer of love, you know.

Could be Russia, though I'm not sure why unless France is being an especial pain to Putin in Ukraine?

Otherwise, I put all of this stuff on the WEF folks, George Soros, Larry Fink, etc.

Or, you know, it could just be Muslims being Muslims. Yes, there are many Muslims who live peaceful lives and love living in western nations. But, an inordinate amount have a major stick up their butts.
Our riots were very clearly financed and encouraged as a way to impact the US election. However, what we are seeing in France is far more intense than what we saw in the US. 2,000 cars and 500 buildings in three days and France is about 1/5th the size of the US.
 

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and Macron condemned the shooting, then toddled off to see Elton John's farewell concert as Paris and Nanterre burned.

hhhhhhhhhhhh!
Spirit of Nero
 
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Our riots were very clearly financed and encouraged as a way to impact the US election. However, what we are seeing in France is far more intense than what we saw in the US. 2,000 cars and 500 buildings in three days and France is about 1/5th the size of the US.
Hmmm....
 
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Our riots were very clearly financed and encouraged as a way to impact the US election.
And, that's what I don't get. How would that be assumed to favor the Dems?? If the violence and unrest are encouraged by the Dems and the media, why did so many vote for Biden? I thought for sure all of the covid lockdowns and S.A.-style street violence would have destroyed the Left in 2020.
 

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Were you there?

I attended 5 Stop the Steal rallies and every time there were groups 20-25 people all in their twenties and all there with the intention of trying to provoke a fight. They screamed in curses at us, they had baseball bats and helmets, etc. The problem they faced is that they were greatly outnumbered by the people at the Stop the Steal event and when we were not in DC these guys were very clearly armed and looked like 40 year old veterans from the military. As a result in none of the rallies I was at did we have any incident at all.

The same cannot be said for the "BLM/Antifa" rallies. At those rallies you had all kinds of people marching during the day peacefully, but at night they were felons looking to loot and riot.

I was also there January 6th. The mayor of DC arrested the Proud Boys days the day before the rally. The proud boys had provided security for all the previous Stop the Steal rallies which had all been peaceful without a single negative event (though the first DC event did have Trump supporters get jumped and attacked at night afterwards, from that point on people learned to travel in groups and eat at restaurants in groups). By arresting the proud boys the DC mayor made it much easier for these thugs to infiltrate the rally. Then you can see video that while Trump is still speaking a mile away these guys were preparing with ladders and others stuff to break into the congress building. They actually started the attack before Trump finished his speech (he had finished 45 minutes after he had planned). We have video of people clearly inciting the riot at the capital and these people were not charged. Ray Epps and a guy associated with Antifa were both very well documented to be fully involved and yet no charges. We have video of the police in the capital building while people dressed up as Trump supporters are standing behind them and this is supposed to be before anyone broke in. Why has it taken us 2 1/2 years to get the video footage? More lies from the government. Why is it that they have never caught the person who left a pipe bomb? Everything about this screams deep state.
 

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And, that's what I don't get. How would that be assumed to favor the Dems?? If the violence and unrest are encouraged by the Dems and the media, why did so many vote for Biden? I thought for sure all of the covid lockdowns and S.A.-style street violence would have destroyed the Left in 2020.
The riots gave the impression that under Trump social order was disintegrating and Biden's campaign was a claim to return to maturity and dignity for the presidency.
 
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The riots gave the impression that under Trump social order was disintegrating and Biden's campaign was a claim to return to maturity and dignity for the presidency.
That is not what I saw at all. I saw Leftist-inspired / enabled violence and crackdowns. Jan 6th was not incitement, with the break-in planned weeks ahead of time. Incitement happened in 2020, with Kamala Harris, on TV months before the 2020 elections, telling everyone that "it shouldn't stop", speaking of the "peaceful protests"... with Don Lemon and others encouraging arsonists... etc, etc.

It stuns me that more Americans did not see that. It stuns me how many Americans are duped by the MSM. It stuns me how so many Americans are not seeing the parallels between 1930s Italy and Germany, and America today. We're all so ignorant, so distracted... we need someone to scream from the mountaintops, who is also untouchable by the FBI, to start re-educating America.
 

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No idea why I'm being asked this.
I heard what the MSM portrayed these events as and I saw with my own eyes, and what I saw was completely different from what I had been told. I'm wondering if your opinions are from first hand witness, or from being told by others?
 
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I heard what the MSM portrayed these events as and I saw with my own eyes, and what I saw was completely different from what I had been told. I'm wondering if your opinions are from first hand witness, or from being told by others?
Lost, sorry...

I don't pay attention to the legacy news sources. FNC, Prager, Kirk, O'Reilly and Shapiro are the only ones I give any credence to now.