Has WW3 already begun and people just don't know…

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loveme1

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The world is growing darker by the day.. many still believing the serpent. When you accept that you will die and all is rebellious vanity .. escapism and live your best life mentality.. Believing in the Lord’s Testament and receiving forgiveness and eternal life.. that is the ultimate a mortal can do here on earth. The rest is…in the mean time as we abide.. what will we witness and endure? Much.

The sun is not darkened and the moon not red. Be Faithful.
 

ResidentAlien

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No we don't hope for it because of the suffering we have to endure but in the end, the remnant will receive the blessings...

The time for the present age started to come undone in 2020 and all the sequence of events can be traced back to that time period... We are now living in the time of the playing out to fulfillment of many things of the Bible.
I have seen a lot of people on this forum who need certain things to be true so their ideas about certain timelines and events can be true. Predictions have come and gone; not just recently, but for years and years people have been saying "the end is here!" They were all convinced that all the events and requirements lined up; yet, here we still are. My approach is to just watch. I don't make proclamations or predictions, nor do I put much stock in them when others make them. I just watch and pray and let the Lord handle the rest.
 

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#43
Indeed the serpent waxes strong for it's time is short now... There is a destiny... A destiny for those who are His... This now is the preparation for that destiny. We will all of us see that? No I don't think so however it is He who determines what. Is it lack of faith no. It is in fact simply surrender and acknowledging His sovereignty. I have dreams and inner desires but I don't know if they will ever be fulfilled. However as much of struggle that can be at time I surrender to His will.

However I do know with an inner certainty 1 Corinthians 1:27-28 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
 

Valour-dare

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I have seen a lot of people on this forum who need certain things to be true so their ideas about certain timelines and events can be true. Predictions have come and gone; not just recently, but for years and years people have been saying "the end is here!" They were all convinced that all the events and requirements lined up; yet, here we still are. My approach is to just watch. I don't make proclamations or predictions; I just watch and pray and let the Lord handle the rest.
So to clarify I have never claimed WW3 was the end. Is it the end of life as we know it, yes I think that is a certainty but is it the end of all things... No. However it is the waxing of the separation and of the fulfilling of Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
 

ResidentAlien

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So to clarify I have never claimed WW3 was the end. Is it the end of life as we know it, yes I think that is a certainty but is it the end of all things... No. However it is the waxing of the separation and of the fulfilling of Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Just to clarify, I never said you said WW3 is the end; but it's clear you think it's the beginning of the end. That's all I have, I'm out.
 

Valour-dare

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Just to clarify, I never said you said WW3 is the end; but it's clear you think it's the beginning of the end. That's all I have, I'm out.
I would be lying if I said it wasn't. 2020 was the beginning... the time were the "structures of WW3 were placed" Message received.
 

HeIsHere

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Indeed I have… lets just say say in 2020 I was introduced to something by a family member… that knowledge led me on to discover & uncover the truth… It didn't happen all at once but it was in 2022 when it all just "clicked" for me.

I then knew and understood…

However to know things is as Solomon said, a burden because you are going against the flow (although that is something that I as an individual have always done.)

That is why I said the cost is great (yes it is much better to know the truth) but because everything in the world,in what is taught in every single facet is geared towards the lie. To come out of that, is to become one who is at odds with the world system.

Many cannot or will not ever be able to do so because to admit that they were deceived for most, in not all of their life, is such a shock that they cannot process the full implications.

However when that grace is bestowed upon you and you look from vantage point of now having the truth. That light illuminateds…Then you understand His words of John 15:19 in crystal clarity.

It then becomes simple so all you do is look at what & who the world hates and then you see the realities of that verse fulfilled.

It all becomes clear and then you find out the fullness of the Bible from the beginning to end.

However it doesn't end there because then you realise that you are in a literal war in every sense and then you are given grace to see that from 2020 things ended and you start to His hand bringing things to pass…
What we are seeing unfold today was in the plans before 2020, there is literature written by during the 18th century which maps out the plans, yet I agree 2020 revealed a lot about the power structures in place.
 

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What we are seeing unfold today was in the plans before 2020, there is literature written by during the 18th century which maps out the plans, yet I agree 2020 revealed a lot about the power structures in place.
I fully agree but what I am alluding to is something very specific that started in 2020... I am talking about a literal divine decree...
 

HeIsHere

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I fully agree but what I am alluding to is something very specific that started in 2020... I am talking about a literal divine decree...
I am not a futurist, the times stamps makes it pretty clear that Matthew 24 (and the other same passages in the other books) were fulfilled in the first century.

Not sure what you mean by divine decree and 2020, are you speaking about personal revelation?
 

Valour-dare

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I am not a futurist, the times stamps makes it pretty clear that Matthew 24 (and the other same passages in the other books) were fulfilled in the first century.

Not sure what you mean by divine decree and 2020, are you speaking about personal revelation?
To explain it here is a challenge... I am talking about a dream vision from 2019 that specifically mentioned that from the date given in 8 months time that the century of bondage for a specific portion of His people comes to an end... The result was that the lockdowns then began at the exact same time...
 

HeIsHere

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To explain it here is a challenge... I am talking about a dream vision from 2019 that specifically mentioned that from the date given in 8 months time that the century of bondage for a specific portion of His people comes to an end... The result was that the lockdowns then began at the exact same time...
I do believe God sends dreams... but I am not sure if you think this is the fulfillment of Matthew 24, if you do I would say it is a counterfeit because that cabal you have to learn about understands scripture better than most of us.

Anyway glad your eyes have been opened, I need all the help I can get here. :D
 

Valour-dare

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I do believe God sends dreams... but I am not sure if you think this is the fulfillment of Matthew 24, if you do I would say it is a counterfeit because that cabal you have to learn about understands scripture better than most of us.

Anyway glad your eyes have been opened, I need all the help I can get here. :D
If at some point and there is a way I can share with you then I will do so... Unfortunately since this pertains so closely to the truth it probably wouldn't be the too conducive if you understand what I mean...
 

Valour-dare

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I am not a futurist, the times stamps makes it pretty clear that Matthew 24 (and the other same passages in the other books) were fulfilled in the first century.

Not sure what you mean by divine decree and 2020, are you speaking about personal revelation?
So I think many scriptures have a transcendental fulfillment...
 

Valour-dare

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I do believe God sends dreams... but I am not sure if you think this is the fulfillment of Matthew 24, if you do I would say it is a counterfeit because that cabal you have to learn about understands scripture better than most of us.

Anyway glad your eyes have been opened, I need all the help I can get here. :D
Matthew 24 particularly verse 37 to 42 is what I would say in play... for it has not been fulfilled yet...
 

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I didn't know where to put this, so i'm putting it here.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17/
Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon.

I would like to discuss the technical aspects of this operation. Do you all know what it takes to achieve this?
Months of planning!
Do you all know how Iran's centrifuges were destroyed?
Using the Stuxnet virus! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
That's the virus that infected millions of Windows XP computers back in the day. The only reason this was made public is because the Israelis were impatient with the program and implored NSA to speed it up so the virus leaked into the web.
Initially the program was designed to cause a small wobble in the centrifuges which would then collapse. The plan was to take them out slowly over the course of 3 years to make it look like an accident.
But since the Israelis were impatient, they sped up the wobble and then it was clear that it was an attack.
This virus was smuggled into the labs by injecting an Iranian official's laptop with a USB, who would then log onto the internal secure network.

Anyway, i'm just geeking out. Sorry.
Carry on with WW3.
 

Valour-dare

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I didn't know where to put this, so i'm putting it here.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17/
Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon.

I would like to discuss the technical aspects of this operation. Do you all know what it takes to achieve this?
Months of planning!
Do you all know how Iran's centrifuges were destroyed?
Using the Stuxnet virus! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
That's the virus that infected millions of Windows XP computers back in the day. The only reason this was made public is because the Israelis were impatient with the program and implored NSA to speed it up so the virus leaked into the web.
Initially the program was designed to cause a small wobble in the centrifuges which would then collapse. The plan was to take them out slowly over the course of 3 years to make it look like an accident.
But since the Israelis were impatient, they sped up the wobble and then it was clear that it was an attack.
This virus was smuggled into the labs by injecting an Iranian official's laptop with a USB, who would then log onto the internal secure network.

Anyway, i'm just geeking out. Sorry.
Carry on with WW3.
Lol thank you for sharing... I find that interesting have you noticed by the way how many times recently microsoft has been offline. Have you noticed how Russia is by contrast virtually unaffected?
 

Eli1

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Lol thank you for sharing... I find that interesting have you noticed by the way how many times recently microsoft has been offline. Have you noticed how Russia is by contrast virtually unaffected?
Russia wanted to have their own internet. Not sure where they are with that project, but i think it would be good competition for the market. :giggle:
All domain names and ip addresses in the world are located in USA by IANA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Assigned_Numbers_Authority

Anyway, back to geeking out again, sorry.
 

Valour-dare

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Russia wanted to have their own internet. Not sure where they are with that project, but i think it would be good competition for the market. :giggle:
All domain names and ip addresses in the world are located in USA by IANA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Assigned_Numbers_Authority

Anyway, back to geeking out again, sorry.
Hmm based on my understanding of things now why is that? It is clear they are preparing for something then when you factor in WW3 that has already started it makes sense...
 

Eli1

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Hmm based on my understanding of things now why is that? It is clear they are preparing for something then when you factor in WW3 that has already started it makes sense...
Look, i'm not big on future events, i just deal with things as they are, but i do enjoy a lot of documentaries about cold war spies.
The whole cold war was fought with spies on both sides which had ingenious ways to get at each-other.
So when i look at these espionage operations, i appreciate the technical aspects and the dedication.
 

Valour-dare

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...it makes sense especially when you understand that BRICS has been built up by the same financial institutions that control the west. Hmm maybe it is because the elites are ready to jump ship but before they do they will burn the house down...