How long until the End?

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oldethennew

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not has a lot of merit for many of us here,
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let us not accept new-age words that are not scriptural, such as 'rapture, etc'' -
study and learn on your own and accept what is 'not scriptural',,,

yes, it is a great challenge to delve into what has been ingrained into our brains -
have an 'open mind' and do your own research, for we live in a world of 'deception and illusion'...
GB...
 

abcdef

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not has a lot of merit for many of us here,
but,
let us not accept new-age words that are not scriptural, such as 'rapture, etc'' -
old,

I only use the word rapture to communicate with many groups who identify with that word. If you notice, I always try to use it in conjunction with the resurrection, which is the true identity of the event.


study and learn on your own and accept what is 'not scriptural',,,
Words well spoken.


yes, it is a great challenge to delve into what has been ingrained into our brains -
have an 'open mind' and do your own research, for we live in a world of 'deception and illusion'...
GB...
My viewpoint is based on 1 Cor 15:23-28. It shows 5 main events.

1. Jesus, the first fruits, the #1 resurrection.

2. #2 resurrection, Those who are His at His coming. Jesus comes for the kingdom. Hey not! This is the verse that says when the end is, after the #2 resurrection!

3. Death is destroyed, Also shown in Rev 20:14-15.

4. Jesus delivers the kingdom up to God Father.

5. Jesus submits, The Father is All In All.

Is this teaching wrong? Was Paul wrong? My gosh people! How hard is that? How simple does it have to be?

This is the order of events given by the apostle Paul by the Holy Spirit! Any theory of prophecy MUST agree with the events and the order that they are placed in.


LooK! 2 resurrections! 2 and only 2! Not 3, 4, 5, 6, or 7!

The kingdom is delivered up to the Father AFTER death is destroyed! Not Before as pre-trib teaches!

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Good grief people! If you want to follow the wide path and close your eyes, that is up to you! Ezek 33:3-7, 4.

Just remember this, there were other prophets also that said that Jerusalem would fall. All of them were met with disbelief and opposition. Israel still rejects Jesus/God, and if they continue to do so, the same end will come. Only this time, it will be the end of Israel on this planet.

And maybe you say, "No, no". Look at Revelation 11, the 2 witnesses and the 7th trumpet. Jesus comes for the kingdom in Rev 11:15. Then it is the end. Disagree if you want to, it is happening in front of you!
 
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I think it will probably be next week. Or at least sometime before christmas.
 

abcdef

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8-17-18,

Right now Trump is waging an escalating tariff war with Turkey. Turkey is turning to Russia.

Did he not understand that Turkey is allowing the USA to use it's bases for attacking ISIS?

Does he not understand that if Israel is attacked, the USA would need Turkey's bases to defend Israel? (Czar Putin understands Magog, Iran understands kings of the east across the Euphrates.)

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How will the USA defend Israel, without support from it's previous allies? E.U.? Turkey? Etc.? Especially if Trump continues to push our previous allies Turkey to Czar Putin? Isolationism means not defending Israel!

Israel is becoming more isolated everyday. Instead of being a peace maker, Trump is hitting the hornet's nest and running without a plan.

Trump has no real loyalty to Israel or anybody else. He has no hotel there, or plans to build one, why should he care?

Plain and simple; Does Trump care more about Czar Putin? Or Israel? (Czar Putin)

The events that are taking place now are leading to the fall of Jerusalem. After Jerusalem falls, Jesus will come for the kingdom Rev 11:15.

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epostle

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I don't believe anyone can give you a precise date , but we can clarify by what The LORD has given us in scripture to pin point were we are at this precise moment.

We first have to identify thee Little Horn of Daniel 7​

The Codex Justinianus points to the individual , that has taken the seat of Satan in Revelation 13:12​




This very document points to a specific event in time , that takes place in the book of Revelations . Also by reviewing this statue that Rome adopted by Emperor Justinian ( The Continuation of thee Roman Empire or New Rome ) , we can clearly identify who was him that was given thee power , seat along with it's authority of the Roman Empire .

Revelation 13:12​

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

With this much truth that is documented in this historic record , upon this event , there no need to have speculation on who was given power to persecute the saints. There are many teaching that it is Islam Mahdi , or it is the President of the United States. But none of these are valid according to the prophecy.

For almost 1260 years , thee Bishop of Rome / Papacy used the power of the law , sword , and political alliances ( kings ) to put to death all who were against his authority.​


The Papacy is the Little Horn of Daniel 7​

Daniel 7:25​

And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

We are living in the time line , when the Beast that was , has a head wound inflicted upon it at this precise moment .​



French troops commanded by Napoleon Bonaparte defeated the papal troops and occupied the Papal States in 1796. In 1798, upon his refusal to renounce his temporal power, Pius was taken prisoner and transported to France. He died one year later in Valence.

This event took away , the papacy kingship POWER over the people and many churches , making him a prisoner in Vatican walls. But this event did not kill the papacy, but left it in a wounded state.

But that wound is healing daily as time progress.​




The Lateran Treaty of 1929 giving the Papacy it's temporal power little by little , by encouraging the political powers to align with its decrees as in time past. Also to note this event establish the Papacy Kingship ruling once more.​






Pope Francis arrives for a plenary meeting of the United Nations Sustainable Development Summit

Due that thee head wound to the Papacy , stop thee 1260 days short before it's completion. At thee specific time when the 8 king written in the book of Revelation , receives his power and strength from the ten Kings , the 1260 day prophecy will begin to continue the count down to his end.

Revelation 17:12-13 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.


As we can now evaluate by scripture how close is Christ Second Coming. As well as the Deadly Head wound being healed.

Who is Francis the I , according to prophecy.​

Knowing these things do not save , but now when we are given time to repent and get right with the LORD , is it not wise to choice what is pleasing to Him. Therefore let us keep our garments clean.

Thee ten kings are next to fulfill the prophecy timeline​

This should be a wake up call to many that have not submit to God ways understand and be aware how close , we are to be persecuted in all the world for Christ sake , as did many , when they were killed by the sword or there bodies given to the flame , while reforming the church away from the Bishop of Rome ( Beast ) and his anti Christ doctrine.

Shalom
It looks like a lot of borrowed hate and false histories from the Seventh Day Adventists. It is appealing to the uneducated though. Are you some kind of fundamentalist?
 

epostle

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Here is something to give some thought to ...

Why did thee Protestant Reformers call the Papacy thee Anti Christ , and why now are so many protestant churches , accepting Papal Supremacy , not only in America by around the world.

The adversary is very crafty when it comes to doctrine , he has had so much time , to twist the meaning of scriptures , to fit his own interpretation , just as he tried when tempting Messiah .

But what exactly is Rome theological definition of this trinitarian God ? Let one of there Vatican City King explain to us all in there own words.

John Paul II


In the Pope own words in a book named , Crossing the Threshold of Hope , it says the following .​

The Leader of the Catholic Church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ ( and is accepted as such by believers ) . The Pope is considered the man on earth who represents the Son of God , who " takes the place " of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity .​

" Have no fear when people call me the " Vicar of Christ , " when they say to me " Holy Father , " or your " "Holiness ," or use titles similar to these which seem even inimical to the Gospel. "​

- Crossing the threshold of Hope -​

by Pope John Paul II pp. 3 , 6​





Now you have a better stance why Vatican II , has work tirelessly for many years , to unite the Protestant Churches with Rome by a decree titled , The Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification or JDDJ.

This document gives Satan access into the Temple as 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 has address to all believers were is it's located.

Shalom​
You need to talk to your doctor. Your obsession with Catholic bashing has to do with hate, not Christianity. What has the Pope done to you personally that would cause so much rage? Did you come from a dysfunctional family?

...after distorting the text and history to read what they want into the Bible, and thereby obtaining God's "blessing" on their hatred of the Catholic Church, some "Christians" ignore the only texts of Scripture which tells us about the religious leanings of the Antichrist.
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Christians free of psychotic hatred would see the only criteria the Bible actually gives about the Antichrist. In St. John's letters (1 John 4, 2 John 7-11), he tells us that the spirit of the Antichrist denies the Incarnation (the Son of God becoming man) and thereby also the Trinity (the Father and the Spirit, too). THIS IS THE SPIRIT OF ANTI-CHRIST.

There is not a single text in 2000 years, including the new Catechism of the Catholic Church, where the Catholic Church, her popes, her bishops, her official teachings, her saints, or her acknowledged ecclesiastical authors, deny the Word-made-flesh or the Blessed Trinity. Instead, all of Christianity owes the preservation of these Truths to the Catholic Church, whose great Councils formulated them and whose saints and popes have defended them to this day, often at the cost of martyrdom.

The Catholic Church does not have the spirit of the Antichrist but of God, since no one without the Spirit can say "Jesus is Lord" (1 Cor. 12:3), something the Church and Catholics always have done and continue to do!

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epostle

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It looks like a lot of borrowed hate and false histories from the Seventh Day Adventists. It is appealing to the uneducated though. Are you some kind of fundamentalist?
Here is something to give some thought to ...

Why did thee Protestant Reformers call the Papacy thee Anti Christ , and why now are so many protestant churches , accepting Papal Supremacy , not only in America by around the world.

The adversary is very crafty when it comes to doctrine , he has had so much time , to twist the meaning of scriptures , to fit his own interpretation , just as he tried when tempting Messiah .

But what exactly is Rome theological definition of this trinitarian God ? Let one of there Vatican City King explain to us all in there own words.

John Paul II


In the Pope own words in a book named , Crossing the Threshold of Hope , it says the following .​

The Leader of the Catholic Church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ ( and is accepted as such by believers ) . The Pope is considered the man on earth who represents the Son of God , who " takes the place " of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity .​

" Have no fear when people call me the " Vicar of Christ , " when they say to me " Holy Father , " or your " "Holiness ," or use titles similar to these which seem even inimical to the Gospel. "​

- Crossing the threshold of Hope -​

by Pope John Paul II pp. 3 , 6​





Now you have a better stance why Vatican II , has work tirelessly for many years , to unite the Protestant Churches with Rome by a decree titled , The Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification or JDDJ.

This document gives Satan access into the Temple as 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 has address to all believers were is it's located.

Shalom​
The reformers had to justify their break from the historic Church, and convince the illiterate population that they should join them. First on their shock tactics was to demonize the papacy. It was done for propaganda and political purposes, not done to seek a "pure" or "primitive" Christianity.
Protestant churches are not submitting to the Pope. That's SDA paranoia. Papal Primacy means he signs Catholic teachings and serves the bishops, it does not mean jurisdiction over anyone else. You have been exposed to myths.
A joint declaration does not mean merging doctrines. I just means comparing notes. See for yourself and stop letting your Bible cult do your thinking for you.



You need to talk to your doctor. Your obsession with pointless Catholic bashing has to do with hate, not Christianity. What has the Pope done to you personally that would cause so much rage? Did you come from a dysfunctional family?

...after distorting the text and history to read what they want into the Bible, and thereby obtaining God's "blessing" on their hatred of the Catholic Church, some "Christians" ignore the only texts of Scripture which tells us about the religious leanings of the Antichrist.
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Christians free of psychotic hatred would see the only criteria the Bible actually gives about the Antichrist. In St. John's letters (1 John 4, 2 John 7-11), he tells us that the spirit of the Antichrist denies the Incarnation (the Son of God becoming man) and thereby also the Trinity (the Father and the Spirit, too). THIS IS THE SPIRIT OF ANTI-CHRIST.

There is not a single text in 2000 years, including the new Catechism of the Catholic Church, where the Catholic Church, her popes, her bishops, her official teachings, her saints, or her acknowledged ecclesiastical authors, deny the Word-made-flesh or the Blessed Trinity. Instead, all of Christianity owes the preservation of these Truths to the Catholic Church, whose great Councils formulated them and whose saints and popes have defended them to this day, often at the cost of martyrdom.

The Catholic Church does not have the spirit of the Antichrist but of God, since no one without the Spirit can say "Jesus is Lord" (1 Cor. 12:3), something the Church and Catholics always have done and continue to do!
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Your post has too many falsehoods and lies to refute them all in one post. If you flood me with long lists this discussion will immediately cease.

 
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Considering all that is happening around the world, and considering all your study and research and what the Lord revealed to you, shown you, or caused you to understand... How long do you think we have until the end of all things or the end of the world as we know it? Let me point to the fact that I'm not asking you for a date and also perhaps take this opportunity to point out that a date has 4 components: a specific hour, in a specific day, in a specific month, in a specific year. In other words, how many more years do you think we have left until the Lord's return?
Readiness at Any Hour Matthew 24:35-37
35Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away. 36No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man.…

The Lesson of the Fig Tree
Matthew 24:32-35

32Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves, you know that summer is near. 33So also, when you see all these things, you know that He is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.

What are the things which we will see:

Temple Destruction Foretold
Matthew 24:1-25

1As Jesus left the temple and was walking away, His disciples came up to Him to point out its buildings. 2“Do you see all these things?” He replied. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be toppled.”

Signs of the End of the Age

3While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will all this happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?”

4Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

Witnessing to All Nations

9Then they will hand you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. 10At that time many will fall away and will betray and hate one another, 11and many false prophets will arise and mislead many.

12Because of the multiplication of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold. 13But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

The Abomination of Desolation

15So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’a described by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand), 16then let those in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the housetop come down to retrieve anything from his house. 18And let no one in the field return for his cloak.

19How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath. 21For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. 22If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened.

23At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. 25See, I have told you in advance.
 

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8-17-18,

Right now Trump is waging an escalating tariff war with Turkey. Turkey is turning to Russia.

Did he not understand that Turkey is allowing the USA to use it's bases for attacking ISIS?

Does he not understand that if Israel is attacked, the USA would need Turkey's bases to defend Israel? (Czar Putin understands Magog, Iran understands kings of the east across the Euphrates.)

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How will the USA defend Israel, without support from it's previous allies? E.U.? Turkey? Etc.? Especially if Trump continues to push our previous allies Turkey to Czar Putin? Isolationism means not defending Israel!

Israel is becoming more isolated everyday. Instead of being a peace maker, Trump is hitting the hornet's nest and running without a plan.

Trump has no real loyalty to Israel or anybody else. He has no hotel there, or plans to build one, why should he care?

Plain and simple; Does Trump care more about Czar Putin? Or Israel? (Czar Putin)

The events that are taking place now are leading to the fall of Jerusalem. After Jerusalem falls, Jesus will come for the kingdom Rev 11:15.

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Trump plays golf while former pres. Jimmy Carter, 90 years old, builds homes for the poor.

 

abcdef

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With all of the things going on in our world, it is easy to take our eyes off the center of the conflict, the people of Israel and Jerusalem.

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I understand that things are becoming, under the influence of the spirit of confusion, division, and the darkness of fear and the unknown.

But we believe that Jerusalem and the people of Israel, the kingdom, wild and natural branches, are at the center of the Bible scriptures.

Jerusalem is going to fall, soon. In the time of men it may be only a few years away or sooner.

In the time of creation and eternity, it is an instant away, it is here.

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The kings of the east (Iran) from across the Euphrates River (6th trumpet/6th vial) from Jerusalem will surround Jerusalem and it will fall.

They will be allied with Magog who is the gentile nations, Russia, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, etc..

These nations will soon be in position and have enough strength to destroy the people of Israel and take Jerusalem.

The battle of Armageddon will take place before our eyes. We will see Israel falling and Jerusalem surrounded, then the end of Israel and Jerusalem will come. Israel is 1/2 the size of the Netherlands, 1/2 the size of Belgium.

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The events that are taking place now, are leading to the conclusion of the fall of Jerusalem.

According to the 2 witnesses and the 7th trumpet, 3 1/2 days after Jerusalem falls, Jesus comes for the kingdom and this planet ends in fire. Rev 11.

Look for the events that are described in the story of the 2 witnesses to take place exactly as it says.

The people of Israel are killed (the 2W's), there bodies remain in the streets and their enemies make merry and send gifts.

When this happens exactly as it says, then you will know that Jesus is coming for the kingdom and the resur/rapt is going to happen.

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abcdef

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Wake up! Wake up!

Israel is growing more isolated and the U.S. is withdrawing.

Isolationism means not protecting Israel.

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Israel's enemies are closing in for the kill, just like it says in the 2W's and the 7th/last trumpet Rev 11.

After Jerusalem falls, Jesus comes for the kingdom and this world ends.

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e all know non of us will know hen the end is. Only that it will be the beginning. And that we need to be busy doing Gods work when he does come. And it will be amazing in heaven. However, in the men while, lots of work to be done. lots of growing and learning and humbling and loving in Gods way.
 

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We all know non of us will know when the end is. Only that it will be the beginning then and that we need to be busy doing Gods work when that trumpet is blown and Jesus does return. And, e should not worry, And it will be amazing in heaven. However, in the mean while, lots of work to be done here. Lots of growing and learning and humbling and loving in Gods way.Many to reach and worship to God to be done. Learning to empty ourselves and be filled by Jesus so that he can take the ordinary and make the extraordinary. Much praying to do for people and our countries and leaders. Lots of work to be done in helping the poor and leading people to Jesus while our lives are here on this earth. And a glorious heaven to look forward to .
 

abcdef

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We all know non of us will know when the end i
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Actually we do know when the end is. Jesus told us in the Revelation when it will be.

It will be exactly as it is told in the story of the 2 Witnesses (2W's) and the 7th/last trumpet.

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8-30-18,

Russian ships and forces are building up in the Middle East. Iran continues to build bases and missiles to strike Israel and take Jerusalem. Israel is 1/2 the size of the Netherlands or Belgium.

Jerusalem will soon fall. Then Jesus comes and this world ends.

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Most think that the Revelation is all future, or all past. But we are at the end! We are at the last few events to take place before Jesus comes for the kingdom and this planet ends in fire!

The Revelation is mainly about the natural broken branches. The symbolism shows the same story again and again from different viewpoints. It is describing the times of the gentiles until Jerusalem is restored to Israel (1967).

1-7 Seals, 37 AD thru 70 AD. From the time that Israel rejects the gospel kingdom, until the destruction of Jerusalem.


1-7 Trumpets, 70 AD thru Jesus coming for the gospel kingdom Rev 11.


1-4 Trumpets, Showing the withdrawing of blessings on the natural branches during the ToG's 70 ad -1967.

5th Tr., 1929, The beast is a nation and not a person, Rome, the iron of Dan. 2. Rome returned to the seat of the beast. Caesar and the image Caesar the Bishop Rome are the Antichrist.

1967, Jerusalem is restored to Israel.

6th Tr., 9-11-01, The event of the towers set in motion the events of the 6th Tr.

7th Tr, After Jerusalem falls, Jesus comes. End of the planet.


Brothers and sisters, Please wake up to the coming of our Lord Jesus.

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Whenever there is a world crises ie WWI and WW2 plus an assortment of wars since someone or some organisation don their sandwich boards and proclaim the end is nigh. There seems to be a morbid longing for the annihilation of the human race as a whole. Behind this frame of mind appears to be a belief that whatever happens they are the chosen few who have made the grade in as much as whatever happens they alone will escape any unpleasant consequences. This site seems to be cluttered with this mind set. When meeting their maker they may be astounded at the people whom God actually invites into his kingdom.
 

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Whenever there is a world crises ie WWI and WW2 plus an assortment of wars since someone or some organisation don their sandwich boards and proclaim the end is nigh. There seems to be a morbid longing for the annihilation of the human race as a whole. Behind this frame of mind appears to be a belief that whatever happens they are the chosen few who have made the grade in as much as whatever happens they alone will escape any unpleasant consequences. This site seems to be cluttered with this mind set. When meeting their maker they may be astounded at the people whom God actually invites into his kingdom.
Jesus will save whoever He wants to be saved. We are saved by love, faith, and grace. His love is more than enough to cover our darkest sins.

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I think that when we see the lives and spirits at the judgment, we will understand a lot more. One thing that we will understand is what other people's lives were like, from their point of view, and God's point of view. Maybe we would not judge one another so harshly when all things are taken into account by Jesus. In other people we may see their fake love for others and the lack of love.

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We have waited for Jesus to return and the resurrection to take place for 1900 years. People have strained to see if the prophecies coming true, the blessed hope. This hope has shined through the centuries through pain and until their deaths.

And yes, we still believe that He will come for us, even though we may not live to see it either.

I can't speak for others, but I believe. I believe so much that I have searched and researched.

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And now you may want me to show why this time it is different.

Because Israel is restored to Jerusalem. All that is necessary for the times of the gentiles to end is for Israel to have complete military control over Jerusalem, Lk 21:20-24, 24.

This had never happened before.

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Whenever there is a world crises ie WWI and WW2 plus an assortment of wars since someone or some organisation don their sandwich boards and proclaim the end is nigh. There seems to be a morbid longing for the annihilation of the human race as a whole. Behind this frame of mind appears to be a belief that whatever happens they are the chosen few who have made the grade in as much as whatever happens they alone will escape any unpleasant consequences. This site seems to be cluttered with this mind set. When meeting their maker they may be astounded at the people whom God actually invites into his kingdom.
Yes, that is because we not learn the bible completly. We read part of the bible, before the end Will be war and rumor of war, than every time when there is a war people think, this is end.

Bible say more then war, Will be one world government. So before one world government Jesus Will not come.
 

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e all know non of us will know hen the end is. Only that it will be the beginning. And that we need to be busy doing Gods work when he does come. And it will be amazing in heaven. However, in the men while, lots of work to be done. lots of growing and learning and humbling and loving in Gods way.
I like what you said here-- "that it will be the beginning"
of a new world, one where "the meek will inherit the earth."
This implies inclusion of those who are authorized to defend the meek, and keep peace in the world, of course. The lord honored soldiers who did not abuse their authority.
John the Baptist was not meek, yet he was referred to as the greatest of prophets. Jesus would not be considered "meek," either-- standing up to a hoard of demons, and casting them, at their request, into a herd of pigs, must have been an intense moment, even for Christ. But, I believe the Word of God says that we should consider the return of the Lord to be always "imminent,"

--literally always a heartbeat away for everyone, and in bible time. I hope I have more time to do the things you mentioned here, but there is more suffering in the world now, and the earth is being damaged by mankind and there are always natural threats, known and unknown, so we should always take life one day at a time, one year at a time...and pray for more time for each other and for the world, and for God's mercy. It does matter how we live our lives as children of God, with those who are careless stewards being mentioned in the bible, which I heard today on the internet that if our works do not stand the test of fire, we will be saved, but not our works, as we are temples of the Holy Spirit. the bible does say there will be some who believed they were saved, but, did not honor the Covenant, and will be told by the Lord, "I never knew you."

So, we should pray for each other that we may have more time to help all people be "certain," we know the Lord, turning away from all that does not help us to grow in that relationship. One Christian in the 16th century said that we don't have to necessarily change what we are doing, unless it is not in line with the bible, just do what we are doing for God, and community, not just ourselves.
 

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I like what you said here-- "that it will be the beginning"
of a new world, one where "the meek will inherit the earth."
This implies inclusion of those who are authorized to defend the meek, and keep peace in the world, of course. The lord honored soldiers who did not abuse their authority.
John the Baptist was not meek, yet he was referred to as the greatest of prophets. Jesus would not be considered "meek," either-- standing up to a hoard of demons, and casting them, at their request, into a herd of pigs, must have been an intense moment, even for Christ. But, I believe the Word of God says that we should consider the return of the Lord to be always "imminent,"

--literally always a heartbeat away for everyone, and in bible time. I hope I have more time to do the things you mentioned here, but there is more suffering in the world now, and the earth is being damaged by mankind and there are always natural threats, known and unknown, so we should always take life one day at a time, one year at a time...and pray for more time for each other and for the world, and for God's mercy. It does matter how we live our lives as children of God, with those who are careless stewards being mentioned in the bible, which I heard today on the internet that if our works do not stand the test of fire, we will be saved, but not our works, as we are temples of the Holy Spirit. the bible does say there will be some who believed they were saved, but, did not honor the Covenant, and will be told by the Lord, "I never knew you."

So, we should pray for each other that we may have more time to help all people be "certain," we know the Lord, turning away from all that does not help us to grow in that relationship. One Christian in the 16th century said that we don't have to necessarily change what we are doing, unless it is not in line with the bible, just do what we are doing for God, and community, not just ourselves.
Sorry that I did not check my post before posting. My key board does not always hit on the 'a's snd 'w's. Glad you could understand me.