Iran attacks Israel, sends hundreds of drones, missiles
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Was just coming to post the bill.
Not only would the Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023 (H.R. 6090) convict any critics of the government of Israel - a foreign government; a non-living entity - of antisemitism, but it also would convict Christians of antisemitism if they said that Jews were involved in crucifying Jesus. This just passed the house.
I wonder what folks on this forum have to say. Like, we're literally making the utterances of historical truth and our faith antisemitic, and if antisemitic then a hate crime and illegal. It astounds me that Christians don't see what's going on here. But like frogs in a pot of slowly boiled water, we're going to look up and it's going to be too late.
Not only would the Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023 (H.R. 6090) convict any critics of the government of Israel - a foreign government; a non-living entity - of antisemitism, but it also would convict Christians of antisemitism if they said that Jews were involved in crucifying Jesus. This just passed the house.
I wonder what folks on this forum have to say. Like, we're literally making the utterances of historical truth and our faith antisemitic, and if antisemitic then a hate crime and illegal. It astounds me that Christians don't see what's going on here. But like frogs in a pot of slowly boiled water, we're going to look up and it's going to be too late.
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The brainwashing/psychology of this is really something to behold.
The ad hominem attacks are without shame.
I find some bright spots on X so I am heartened by that, there are informed people there, (people like @Smoke and locoponydirtman have given up I think) and I am not saying that in a superior way it is just the plain truth.
We shall see how this unfolds, it may already be too late, Christians may have dug their own graves, how sad is that.
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which Bill of Rights? what First Amendment?
the bill was proposed last year. odd, the timing of voting on it.
what's happening on college campuses is profoundly wrong in so many ways, and NO student, Jewish or otherwise, should have to be afraid to go to class, or just exist on campus. but the "protests", in a macro sense, have less to do with antisemitism, and more to do with moving toward the goals of Marxism.
if this House bill becomes law, we're all in trouble, because it's just a power grab dressed up as fighting antisemitism; it's a hate speech bill, and it won't stop there.
the bill was proposed last year. odd, the timing of voting on it.
what's happening on college campuses is profoundly wrong in so many ways, and NO student, Jewish or otherwise, should have to be afraid to go to class, or just exist on campus. but the "protests", in a macro sense, have less to do with antisemitism, and more to do with moving toward the goals of Marxism.
if this House bill becomes law, we're all in trouble, because it's just a power grab dressed up as fighting antisemitism; it's a hate speech bill, and it won't stop there.
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which Bill of Rights? what First Amendment?
the bill was proposed last year. odd, the timing of voting on it.
what's happening on college campuses is profoundly wrong in so many ways, and NO student, Jewish or otherwise, should have to be afraid to go to class, or just exist on campus. but the "protests", in a macro sense, have less to do with antisemitism, and more to do with moving toward the goals of Marxism.
if this House bill becomes law, we're all in trouble, because it's just a power grab dressed up as fighting antisemitism; it's a hate speech bill, and it won't stop there.
the bill was proposed last year. odd, the timing of voting on it.
what's happening on college campuses is profoundly wrong in so many ways, and NO student, Jewish or otherwise, should have to be afraid to go to class, or just exist on campus. but the "protests", in a macro sense, have less to do with antisemitism, and more to do with moving toward the goals of Marxism.
if this House bill becomes law, we're all in trouble, because it's just a power grab dressed up as fighting antisemitism; it's a hate speech bill, and it won't stop there.
Was January 6 profoundly wrong?
Just curious.
Definitely, the prosecutions were profoundly wrong. They lied, they withheld evidence, they ignored grievous complaints while turning misdemeanors into felonies.
For example the Antifa operative who videotaped Ashley Babbit being shot and killed, they didn't prosecute him for years until the uproar was too great and they had no choice but to give him six years, while others were in prison for years before they even got a trial. Then there is the guy who claimed to have orchestrated the whole thing standing outside and urging people to break the law. They had lots of video evidence but would not prosecute until the uproar was too great and so they just gave him a slap on the wrist while some guy with the Proud Boys who wasn't even in DC had the book thrown at him for who knows what. They lied about Pelosi and Schumer rejecting the national guard. They lied about a policeman being killed.
Meanwhile the most heinous crime was the pipe bomb and recent videotape evidence shows the bomber advising the police and the Secret service about the bomb after placing it and yet he has still not been arrested.
For example the Antifa operative who videotaped Ashley Babbit being shot and killed, they didn't prosecute him for years until the uproar was too great and they had no choice but to give him six years, while others were in prison for years before they even got a trial. Then there is the guy who claimed to have orchestrated the whole thing standing outside and urging people to break the law. They had lots of video evidence but would not prosecute until the uproar was too great and so they just gave him a slap on the wrist while some guy with the Proud Boys who wasn't even in DC had the book thrown at him for who knows what. They lied about Pelosi and Schumer rejecting the national guard. They lied about a policeman being killed.
Meanwhile the most heinous crime was the pipe bomb and recent videotape evidence shows the bomber advising the police and the Secret service about the bomb after placing it and yet he has still not been arrested.
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i wasn't there, so i have to rely on videos. i saw lots of folks simply exercising their First Amendment right to assemble, and doing so peacefully. i haven't seen the riots, but then, i haven't delved deeply into it, either.
it seems to me to be likely a riot existed because humans! and yes, certainly wrong. my rights end where they begin to infringe on another's.
it seems to me to be likely a riot existed because humans! and yes, certainly wrong. my rights end where they begin to infringe on another's.
I was there, in fact I was at 6 "Stop the Steal" rallies. Everyone was peaceful, however, every rally also had a contingent of Antifa who were there to try and start a rumble. The first one in DC they attacked the elderly and women with children after the rally was over. After that they were ready for that and brought their own security. The proud boys were security for these events. However, the night before Jan 6th Washington DC arrested all the proud boys, stripping the rally of security.
I met the guy who had his feet on Pelosi's desk, I told him if he went into building they would shoot him. He was not "MAGA" he was an anarchist. I also saw video of the thugs that broke into the building, they were setting up outside of the building at the exact same time that Trump was speaking over at the Whitehouse. They also were not "MAGA" but operatives designed to create a false flag event. I have also seen video of the Capitol inside the building prior to the breakin and you see people putting on MAGA gear to blend in. The guy who videotaped Ashley being shot and killed was Antifa. The guy who planted the pipe bomb talked to both the police and the Secret Service on video and appears to be one of these alphabet groups like the FBI.
I understand why people who never went to any of these rallies and who naively believes whatever the main stream propagandists are feeding them would not see this event as a false flag event. But the evidence has been released and anyone who seriously looks at all the evidence would have to conclude this was a false flag event.
I met the guy who had his feet on Pelosi's desk, I told him if he went into building they would shoot him. He was not "MAGA" he was an anarchist. I also saw video of the thugs that broke into the building, they were setting up outside of the building at the exact same time that Trump was speaking over at the Whitehouse. They also were not "MAGA" but operatives designed to create a false flag event. I have also seen video of the Capitol inside the building prior to the breakin and you see people putting on MAGA gear to blend in. The guy who videotaped Ashley being shot and killed was Antifa. The guy who planted the pipe bomb talked to both the police and the Secret Service on video and appears to be one of these alphabet groups like the FBI.
I understand why people who never went to any of these rallies and who naively believes whatever the main stream propagandists are feeding them would not see this event as a false flag event. But the evidence has been released and anyone who seriously looks at all the evidence would have to conclude this was a false flag event.
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We seem to always fall victim to thinking that two things can’t be right or true at the same time.
This mindset of either or, applies to a whole host of Biblical issues as well.
The bill passed by the House is VERY bad, and almost certainly unconstitutional.
But that doesn’t mean that the disgusting behavior and hatred displayed against Jews on these campuses shouldn’t be squashed. And the perpetrators arrested.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-p...bia-congress-df4ba95dae844b3a8559b4b3ad7e058a
This mindset of either or, applies to a whole host of Biblical issues as well.
The bill passed by the House is VERY bad, and almost certainly unconstitutional.
But that doesn’t mean that the disgusting behavior and hatred displayed against Jews on these campuses shouldn’t be squashed. And the perpetrators arrested.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-p...bia-congress-df4ba95dae844b3a8559b4b3ad7e058a
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Do we really need new laws? The behavior could have been squashed without any new laws.
Many people mocked the girl at Columbia asking for "humanitarian" aid to be given to the people occupying the buildings. What they are missing is the fact that lots of aid was given to these protestors to the point that she would assume they were supposed to be supplying it. Like I said, all you have to do is remove the port o potties, put up cameras everywhere and make it a misdemeanor to litter or defecate on the campus grounds. Lock up the buildings and make these people walk into the surrounding area, stand in line at the stores and they must buy something before using the restroom. The protest would evaporate in no time.
Also without changing any laws Columbia university could make it clear to any professor that the university is not antisemitic and that if they have views that contradict that they cannot express those views as a professor of the school. What they say in their personal life is one thing, but when they speak as a professor they are representing the school. If professors had been disciplined along these lines prior to this event it would have squashed it.
The first amendment allows speech we dislike and this is what has made the US better than countries run by dictators and despots.
Many people mocked the girl at Columbia asking for "humanitarian" aid to be given to the people occupying the buildings. What they are missing is the fact that lots of aid was given to these protestors to the point that she would assume they were supposed to be supplying it. Like I said, all you have to do is remove the port o potties, put up cameras everywhere and make it a misdemeanor to litter or defecate on the campus grounds. Lock up the buildings and make these people walk into the surrounding area, stand in line at the stores and they must buy something before using the restroom. The protest would evaporate in no time.
Also without changing any laws Columbia university could make it clear to any professor that the university is not antisemitic and that if they have views that contradict that they cannot express those views as a professor of the school. What they say in their personal life is one thing, but when they speak as a professor they are representing the school. If professors had been disciplined along these lines prior to this event it would have squashed it.
The first amendment allows speech we dislike and this is what has made the US better than countries run by dictators and despots.
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Why don't you tell that to the Hamas terrorists? And why did you stay silent when Islamist terrorists all over the world killed and maimed innocent people many times? Your double standard is showing. All of a sudden Israel is expected to be held to a higher standard than evil terrorists. All this talk is simply about attacking Israel and Israelis. Not that they should not be held accountable when they do wrong. But when they are defending themselves, the old adage applies "All's fair in love and war".
well, i do agree; it's why i oppose abortion. murder, even if it's not en masse, is wrong.
i just have questions about these uni protests, like
do the kids actually understand what they're for, or against? do they even know what river and which sea?
(where that expression got its start, i have my doubts, but i suspect it may have been with Israelis)
the adults leading those students, and the ones donating the funds to support them, are they actually pro-palestinian, or is it something else? how about the woman at Columbia who also led protests with Wall Street, and BLM? do we believe she actually cares about Palestine, or is she a professional rabble-rouser?
how does a group of 7-8 surrounding a Jewish 19 yo kid from Jersey, threatening him with bodily harm, achieve the goal of ending violence in the Middle East?
i'm not a dispensationalist, nor am i so naïve as to think the Israeli gov't is faultless. indeed, like every other gov't, i feel there's a lot of corruption inherent in it.
i support my fellow citizens in their right to protest. it doesn't matter whether or not i believe in their cause; it's their right as Americans. but that right ends with breaking laws. you can't break windows with a hammer, usurp a building, or, in the case of the climate church, block public roads.
the issues are complex. they always are. i wish we could sit down with coffee (I made pie! lol) and just talk about it. i hope my ethics are applied with an even hand, but as my sister so often says, it's hard to see your own stuff (except she doesn't say stuff).
i just have questions about these uni protests, like
do the kids actually understand what they're for, or against? do they even know what river and which sea?
(where that expression got its start, i have my doubts, but i suspect it may have been with Israelis)
the adults leading those students, and the ones donating the funds to support them, are they actually pro-palestinian, or is it something else? how about the woman at Columbia who also led protests with Wall Street, and BLM? do we believe she actually cares about Palestine, or is she a professional rabble-rouser?
how does a group of 7-8 surrounding a Jewish 19 yo kid from Jersey, threatening him with bodily harm, achieve the goal of ending violence in the Middle East?
i'm not a dispensationalist, nor am i so naïve as to think the Israeli gov't is faultless. indeed, like every other gov't, i feel there's a lot of corruption inherent in it.
i support my fellow citizens in their right to protest. it doesn't matter whether or not i believe in their cause; it's their right as Americans. but that right ends with breaking laws. you can't break windows with a hammer, usurp a building, or, in the case of the climate church, block public roads.
the issues are complex. they always are. i wish we could sit down with coffee (I made pie! lol) and just talk about it. i hope my ethics are applied with an even hand, but as my sister so often says, it's hard to see your own stuff (except she doesn't say stuff
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HR-6090, with its official definition of antisemitism taken from IHRA, is the problem. leave it to Congress to be too lazy to write their own definition.
and though i, in part, agree with you, i think we must remember the First Amendment wasn't written to protect speech we like, but even speech we detest. i know, i don't like it, either, but there we are.
did you see the young person, in the process of being arrested at Columbia, saying it didn't matter, this is NYC and he'd be out in 24 hours? harrumph!
the college protests are problematic on a multitude of levels, not the least of which is what is said against a sub-set of our population, Jews. yet, i think there's a larger challenge they're showing us, too, and it's the destruction of western culture-- just one arm of it.
and though i, in part, agree with you, i think we must remember the First Amendment wasn't written to protect speech we like, but even speech we detest. i know, i don't like it, either, but there we are.
did you see the young person, in the process of being arrested at Columbia, saying it didn't matter, this is NYC and he'd be out in 24 hours? harrumph!
the college protests are problematic on a multitude of levels, not the least of which is what is said against a sub-set of our population, Jews. yet, i think there's a larger challenge they're showing us, too, and it's the destruction of western culture-- just one arm of it.
It is not enough for a doctors to know how to treat symptoms of a medical issue but to learn about, inform themselves on the root of the medical problem if they want to be effective doctors,
Terrorism is wrong, the killing of innocent civilians is wrong, carpet bombing is wrong and dropped nuclear bombs on innocent civilians was wrong.
And you know what is also wrong ethnic cleansing and settler colonialism.
Terrorism is wrong, the killing of innocent civilians is wrong, carpet bombing is wrong and dropped nuclear bombs on innocent civilians was wrong.
And you know what is also wrong ethnic cleansing and settler colonialism.
HR-6090, with its official definition of antisemitism taken from IHRA, is the problem. leave it to Congress to be too lazy to write their own definition.
and though i, in part, agree with you, i think we must remember the First Amendment wasn't written to protect speech we like, but even speech we detest. i know, i don't like it, either, but there we are.
did you see the young person, in the process of being arrested at Columbia, saying it didn't matter, this is NYC and he'd be out in 24 hours? harrumph!
the college protests are problematic on a multitude of levels, not the least of which is what is said against a sub-set of our population, Jews. yet, i think there's a larger challenge they're showing us, too, and it's the destruction of western culture-- just one arm of it.
and though i, in part, agree with you, i think we must remember the First Amendment wasn't written to protect speech we like, but even speech we detest. i know, i don't like it, either, but there we are.
did you see the young person, in the process of being arrested at Columbia, saying it didn't matter, this is NYC and he'd be out in 24 hours? harrumph!
the college protests are problematic on a multitude of levels, not the least of which is what is said against a sub-set of our population, Jews. yet, i think there's a larger challenge they're showing us, too, and it's the destruction of western culture-- just one arm of it.
The "Republic" fell a long time ago, I would say about the time one leader was killed in Dallas others put it at the Whiskey Rebellion but I am a bit more generous.
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