Israel Declares War

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PennEd

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Interesting that the comments bring more clarity and truth than the You Tuber. :D

Did you notice how the promise part of the Balfour Declaration was never held too...oh those backward poor Palestinians they had little or no rights but the British came to save the day and then gave the best land to Isrealis, yeah he forgot that part.

The Turks were not interested in creating nations they were interested in conquest.

We have British settler colonialism for the creation of nations with a mark of a pen I might add and here we are today on the eve of destruction.
The “best part of the Land”. Absurd. Especially in light of the fact that Israel has turned large swaths of terrible land into productive farmland. Dang smart Jews!

Plus, you failed to address the primary point. It doesn’t matter how small, or arable the land is. They could’ve asked for land no bigger than Winnie the Poohs hundred acre wood and the barbaric beast Muslims would have said no.

I have seriously come to believe that Amillennialism is from the devil. And greatly serves his purposes.

Make no mistake. That biblical misinterpretation is the cause of unspeakable Jewish suffering over the millennia.
 

HeIsHere

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Nope. I have empathy for Arabs that want Hamas removed. And for children caught in an endless war by terrorists (Hamas) who uses them as shields.
Israel bolstered Hamas, maybe they should have been smarter when they had a chance to be, rather than keeping them in an open air prison (as described by Noam Chomsky, a Jew, having visited Gaza) for over 10 years.
 

Magenta

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Israel bolstered Hamas, maybe they should have been smarter when they had a chance to be, rather than keeping
them in an open air prison (as described by Noam Chomsky, a Jew, having visited Gaza) for over 10 years.
Why is Israel being blamed for the conditions in Gaza as if Egypt had nothing to do with it?

Oh, right, it is HiH's opinion being flouted over facts. Got it (facts are their enemy!).
 

HeIsHere

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The “best part of the Land”. Absurd. Especially in light of the fact that Israel has turned large swaths of terrible land into productive farmland. Dang smart Jews!

Plus, you failed to address the primary point. It doesn’t matter how small, or arable the land is. They could’ve asked for land no bigger than Winnie the Poohs hundred acre wood and the barbaric beast Muslims would have said no.

I have seriously come to believe that Amillennialism is from the devil. And greatly serves his purposes.

Make no mistake. That biblical misinterpretation is the cause of unspeakable Jewish suffering over the millennia.
Wow, you know it takes capital for innovation to happen.

And once again the British made promises to both sides and they reneged

This has not nothing to do with amill.

I could easily argue that Darbyism is the problem, especially when Scofield changed the Bible to as to make it seem that God who sent His Son to fulfill all promises, changed the language of scripture so God was still owing land.

Does it even occur to you that Torah Jews do not agree with Zionism and that at the turn of the last century most Jews were not in favour but were waiting for the Messiah to fulfill the promise, but they are wrong, only the secular Zionist Jews can be right.

So preposterous.
 

cv5

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1)changed the language of scripture so God was still owing land.

2)Does it even occur to you that Torah Jews do not agree with Zionism and that at the turn of the last century most Jews were not in favour but were waiting for the Messiah to fulfill the promise
1) so what Bible translation are you reading? Because my posts are all KJV and declare the return of Israel unequivocally.

2) these Jews were waiting for Messiah and you, a supposed Christian, are not?
 

cv5

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I have seriously come to believe that Amillennialism is from the devil. And greatly serves his purposes.
I cannot understand how anyone has any doubt remaining.
Satan's strategy includes wiping out all Jews. He will try and do so by indwelling the AC.

My concern is for the supposed Christians who inhaled the amillennialism lie hook line and sinker.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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in an open air prison (as described by Noam Chomsky, a Jew, having visited Gaza) for over 10 years.
Really? Is anyone forcing citizens to stay in Gaza? Are they not free to move? Because it sure doesn't sound like a prison to me.


Arabs hold political office in Israel. An Arab judge sentenced an ex- Israeli president to jail. Arabs teach in Israeli universities. Arabs get the same healthcare as Israelis. Non-whites in South Africa (much like theUS) had separate amenities.
These include hospitals, beaches, buses, restrooms, drinking fountains and even designated park benches to sit on. None of this discrimination is prevalent in Israel and a law prohibits discrimination in public places.
Arabs have their own political parties... and equal voting rights.
Arabs in Israel have more fundamental rights than other Islamic and Arab countries in the Middle East.according to a poll done by Harvard University, 77 per cent of Arab citizens living in Israel would rather live there than any other country in the world.


Sure doesn't sound like a prison to me.
 

ZNP

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I cannot understand how anyone has any doubt remaining.
Satan's strategy includes wiping out all Jews. He will try and do so by indwelling the AC.

My concern is for the supposed Christians who inhaled the amillennialism lie hook line and sinker.
Reminds me of the Far Side cartoon, a deer is standing up and hiding behind a tree, we see a hunter trying to shoot him. He says to himself "I gotta think, do I know this guy, did I ever do anything to him?"
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Wow, you know it takes capital for innovation to happen.

And once again the British made promises to both sides and they reneged

This has not nothing to do with amill.

I could easily argue that Darbyism is the problem, especially when Scofield changed the Bible to as to make it seem that God who sent His Son to fulfill all promises, changed the language of scripture so God was still owing land.

Does it even occur to you that Torah Jews do not agree with Zionism and that at the turn of the last century most Jews were not in favour but were waiting for the Messiah to fulfill the promise, but they are wrong, only the secular Zionist Jews can be right.

So preposterous.
You're more confused than a termite in a yo-yo. smh
 

HeIsHere

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1) so what Bible translation are you reading? Because my posts are all KJV and declare the return of Israel unequivocally.

2) these Jews were waiting for Messiah and you, a supposed Christian, are not?
The problem are his notes to the KJV.

Scofield's notes bring together parts of the Old and New Testaments together as though all were written at the same time by the same people.

You are smart man do you own research, I did, Darby and Scofield shady characters.

Are you feeling insecure that you have to make this personal.
 

cv5

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the Old and New Testaments together as though all were written at the same time by the same "PERSON".
God is outside of time. And He did. Future or past makes no difference to the HS.
 

Nehemiah6

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However, some do seem to think that various passages in the bible justify the State of Israel's war crimes...
Do you know the difference between "war crimes" and war casualties? War is war and you are trying to whitewash the TERRORISM which has led to Israel trying to defend itself.

So every possible means of defeating the enemy is simply war, not "war crimes". And you would do the same unless you were suicidal. In the past God actually told Israel to utterly exterminate certain nations. Was that righteous or unrighteous? Is there anything unrighteous with God? But you are getting on your moral high horse as though every terrorist must be protected. But God does not protect evildoers.

Also, America committed actual war crimes and no one has done a thing. Sending billions to Iran to promote terrorism is the real war crime. So why is criminal Biden not behind bars? He egged on Putin day after day so that eventually Putin would attack Ukraine. And the West SABOTAGED every effort for a peaceful settlement. What about those war crimes? What about sending dirty nukes to Ukraine?
 

HeIsHere

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Really? Is anyone forcing citizens to stay in Gaza? Are they not free to move? Because it sure doesn't sound like a prison to me.


Arabs hold political office in Israel. An Arab judge sentenced an ex- Israeli president to jail. Arabs teach in Israeli universities. Arabs get the same healthcare as Israelis. Non-whites in South Africa (much like theUS) had separate amenities.
These include hospitals, beaches, buses, restrooms, drinking fountains and even designated park benches to sit on. None of this discrimination is prevalent in Israel and a law prohibits discrimination in public places.
Arabs have their own political parties... and equal voting rights.
Arabs in Israel have more fundamental rights than other Islamic and Arab countries in the Middle East.according to a poll done by Harvard University, 77 per cent of Arab citizens living in Israel would rather live there than any other country in the world.


Sure doesn't sound like a prison to me.

I cannot help you lack of knowledge about the realities of Gaza and the wall around it, the Kibbutz around it that are IDF people and the borders that are patrolled, the embargo, I am pretty tired trying to educate you.

There are plenty of Jewish people, historians and political scientists, whose parents were survivors of the Holocaust, like Chomsky who have been there and documented the human rights abuses.

But one cannot crash their world view by actually listening to other Jewish people who attack the false narrative constructed by the IDF and its corrupt government.

Israel is entitled to a home land but not one that subjugates the people who were already living there, and yes the displacement of the Palestinians was always part of the plan.

Herzl and Ze'ev Jabotinsky spoke openly of Jewish colonization.
Jabotinsky, whose picture and philosophydominate the ruling Likud party in Israel, had this to say in 1923:"
Zionist colonization, even the most restricted, must either be terminated or carried out in defiance of the will of the native population. This colonization can"t herefore, continue and develop only under the protection of a force independent of the local population – an iron wall that the native population cannot break through." (T. Herzl, The Complete Diaries, NY: Herzl Press & Thomas Yoncloff, 1960, vol. 1, p. 88.


As they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

I doubt you will see the light anytime soon, but I am praying because you are a formidable voice and God could use you that is what my heart tells me, but until then I may not be responding too much to your posts unless it is for the correction to protect other readers and visitors.
 
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Do you know the difference between "war crimes" and war casualties? War is war and you are trying to whitewash the TERRORISM which has led to Israel trying to defend itself.

So every possible means of defeating the enemy is simply war, not "war crimes". And you would do the same unless you were suicidal. In the past God actually told Israel to utterly exterminate certain nations. Was that righteous or unrighteous? Is there anything unrighteous with God? But you are getting on your moral high horse as though every terrorist must be protected. But God does not protect evildoers.

Also, America committed actual war crimes and no one has done a thing. Sending billions to Iran to promote terrorism is the real war crime. So why is criminal Biden not behind bars? He egged on Putin day after day so that eventually Putin would attack Ukraine. And the West SABOTAGED every effort for a peaceful settlement. What about those war crimes? What about sending dirty nukes to Ukraine?
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HeIsHere

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I cannot understand how anyone has any doubt remaining.
Satan's strategy includes wiping out all Jews. He will try and do so by indwelling the AC.

My concern is for the supposed Christians who inhaled the amillennialism lie hook line and sinker.
Let me know when the AC arrives on the scene, been waiting since 1990.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I cannot help you lack of knowledge about the realities of Gaza and the wall around it, the Kibbutz around it that are IDF people and the borders that are patrolled, the embargo, I am pretty tired trying to educate you.

There are plenty of Jewish people, historians and political scientists, whose parents were survivors of the Holocaust, like Chomsky who have been there and documented the human rights abuses.

But one cannot crash their world view by actually listening to other Jewish people who attack the false narrative constructed by the IDF and its corrupt government.
Ok could you explain the BDS movement. Are you saying that what I last posted is not true? Perspective is everything. I knew two grown women. Their parents were Christians, SA, very devote. Their father was a prison chaplain. They both went out in Canada with the kettles to raise money, you can imagine how cold that was. One of those women adored her parents. She took them every trip she took, she and her husband doted on them. She had so much respect and admiration for them. The other women ended up taking her father to court and accusing him of molesting her. Nothing ever came of it, other than devastating the family. She hated her father and accused him of emotional abuse. The two stories couldn't be further apart, but both believed them firmly. I think this may be the situation in Gaza.




I doubt you will see the light anytime soon, but I am praying because you are a formidable voice and God could use you that is what my heart tells me, but until then I may not be responding too much to your posts unless it is for the correction to protect other readers and visitors.
My friend, I don't take lightly what I believe. I was in ministry for years and I never wanted to lead people astray. So much so that even though our background was Pentecostal, we never preached those beliefs in churches who didn't hold the same POV. We went to every church with the same message, Jesus still saves. We preached the Gospel as straight as we knew how to put it. But that is how careful I am in what I believe. So if you're going to pray, you better pray for a TKO, because I firmly believe God isn't finished with the Jewish people. I don't really see how that will ever change, unless God shows me a reason. So far, He hasn't.