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The "house of Israel" and the "house of Judah" are the same thing as Christianity. They are not mutually exclusive.
The Jews who accepted Jesus as their messiah went on to form the church -- they were the first Christians.
For example, Peter [a jew] was the rock that Jesus built his church upon.
Galatians 3:26-29 New International Version
[SUP]26 [/SUP]So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, [SUP]27 [/SUP]for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [SUP]29 [/SUP]If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
The Jews who accepted Jesus as their messiah went on to form the church -- they were the first Christians.
For example, Peter [a jew] was the rock that Jesus built his church upon.
Galatians 3:26-29 New International Version
[SUP]26 [/SUP]So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, [SUP]27 [/SUP]for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [SUP]29 [/SUP]If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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Its also interesting that the planet Venus makes a pentagram in our sky. After every 13 earth years the cycle is complete and the pentagram starts over. This is the star of Lucifer. Lucifer was a Latin word describing the coming of Venus and meant light bringer and bearer of knowledge. God directly linked Venus worship to satan worship in Isaiah 14
Similarly, Saturn has a hexagonal storm on one of its poles that has been there for a very long time. Its interesting that the six pointed star became the occultic symbol of Saturn in both pagan and cabbala forms of the occult. A 6 pointed star fits perfectly inside a hexagon. Was this just a coincidence? Did satan give the occultists inside knowledge? Or did the ancients have more advanced technology than we know? Any way, the six pointed star represents Saturn, the 5 pointed star Venus. Together they make the talisman of Saturn.
Similarly, Saturn has a hexagonal storm on one of its poles that has been there for a very long time. Its interesting that the six pointed star became the occultic symbol of Saturn in both pagan and cabbala forms of the occult. A 6 pointed star fits perfectly inside a hexagon. Was this just a coincidence? Did satan give the occultists inside knowledge? Or did the ancients have more advanced technology than we know? Any way, the six pointed star represents Saturn, the 5 pointed star Venus. Together they make the talisman of Saturn.
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That would be incorrect. The "house of Judah" and the "house of Israel" are ISRAEL. Israel is NOT the body of Christ/ the Church and therefore not the same thing as Christianity.
That is partly true. Believers were not called "Christians" until Acts 11:26 at Antioch.
Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Peter was not the rock upon whom Jesus built His Church. That is what the Roman Catholics believe. The Church is built upon the testimony of Peter in Matthew 16:18:
Matthew 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
Matthew 16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
Matthew 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
You need to stop quoting these verses because your interpretation is incorrect. It does not prove that God's promises and covenants to Israel have been transferred or fulfilled in the Church. It means that the Gentiles become heirs, by faith in Christ, of the spiritual blessings of the New Covenant. Salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone to both Jew and Gentile. There are no spiritual distinctions IN CHRIST.
That is partly true. Believers were not called "Christians" until Acts 11:26 at Antioch.
Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Peter was not the rock upon whom Jesus built His Church. That is what the Roman Catholics believe. The Church is built upon the testimony of Peter in Matthew 16:18:
Matthew 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
Matthew 16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
Matthew 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
You need to stop quoting these verses because your interpretation is incorrect. It does not prove that God's promises and covenants to Israel have been transferred or fulfilled in the Church. It means that the Gentiles become heirs, by faith in Christ, of the spiritual blessings of the New Covenant. Salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone to both Jew and Gentile. There are no spiritual distinctions IN CHRIST.
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No, it doesn't say "Saturn" because that is a latin word. However, it uses other equivalent names that mean Saturn
However here is the amplified translation and I didn't add the words in brackets:
Amos 5:25-27 Amplified Bible (AMP)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Did you bring to Me sacrifices and cereal offerings during those forty years in the wilderness, O house of Israel?
[SUP]26 [/SUP][No] but [instead of bringing Me the appointed sacrifices] you carried about the tent of your king Sakkuth and Kaiwan [names for the gods of the planet Saturn], your images of your star-god which you made for yourselves [and you will do so again].
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Therefore I will cause you to go into exile beyond Damascus, says the Lord, whose name is the God of hosts.
here is the 21st century King James version
Amos 5:25-27 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]“Have ye offered unto Me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?
[SUP]26 [/SUP]But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god which ye made for yourselves.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus,” saith the Lord, whose name is The God of Hosts.
Chiun | Define Chiun at Dictionary.com
Chiun definition
occurs only in Amos 5:26 (R.V. marg., "shrine"). The LXX. translated the word by Rhephan, which became corrupted into Remphan, as used by Stephen (Acts 7:43; but R.V., "Rephan"). Probably the planet Saturn is intended by the name. Astrologers represented this planet as baleful in its influences, and hence the Phoenicians offered to it human sacrifices, especially children.
and again in the Contemporary English Version
Amos 5:25-27 Contemporary English Version (CEV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Israel, for forty years
you wandered in the desert,
without bringing offerings
or sacrifices to me.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Now you will have to carry
the two idols you made—
Sakkuth, the one you call king,
and Kaiwan,
the one you built
in the shape of a star.[SUP][a][/SUP]
[SUP]27 [/SUP]I will force you to march
as captives beyond Damascus.
I, the Lord God All-Powerful,
have spoken![SUP][b][/SUP]
Sakkuth and Kaiwan | Free online Bible classes | BiblicalTraining.org
"The worship of heavenly bodies constituted a real threat to Israel and she was warned against it and condemned for it repeatedly (Deut 4:19; 2 Kings 17:16). In the period of Assyrian domination, esp. after the reign of Shalmaneser III (858-824 b.c.) it became very popular. From a Babylonian incantation it is evident that Sakkuth and Kaiwan were interchangeable names for the god Saturn. Amos warned Israel that devotion to this god would bring ultimate ruin, and that she must detach herself from it (Amos 5:26). "
Satisfied yet?
However here is the amplified translation and I didn't add the words in brackets:
Amos 5:25-27 Amplified Bible (AMP)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Did you bring to Me sacrifices and cereal offerings during those forty years in the wilderness, O house of Israel?
[SUP]26 [/SUP][No] but [instead of bringing Me the appointed sacrifices] you carried about the tent of your king Sakkuth and Kaiwan [names for the gods of the planet Saturn], your images of your star-god which you made for yourselves [and you will do so again].
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Therefore I will cause you to go into exile beyond Damascus, says the Lord, whose name is the God of hosts.
here is the 21st century King James version
Amos 5:25-27 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]“Have ye offered unto Me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?
[SUP]26 [/SUP]But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god which ye made for yourselves.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus,” saith the Lord, whose name is The God of Hosts.
Chiun | Define Chiun at Dictionary.com
Chiun definition
occurs only in Amos 5:26 (R.V. marg., "shrine"). The LXX. translated the word by Rhephan, which became corrupted into Remphan, as used by Stephen (Acts 7:43; but R.V., "Rephan"). Probably the planet Saturn is intended by the name. Astrologers represented this planet as baleful in its influences, and hence the Phoenicians offered to it human sacrifices, especially children.
and again in the Contemporary English Version
Amos 5:25-27 Contemporary English Version (CEV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Israel, for forty years
you wandered in the desert,
without bringing offerings
or sacrifices to me.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Now you will have to carry
the two idols you made—
Sakkuth, the one you call king,
and Kaiwan,
the one you built
in the shape of a star.[SUP][a][/SUP]
[SUP]27 [/SUP]I will force you to march
as captives beyond Damascus.
I, the Lord God All-Powerful,
have spoken![SUP][b][/SUP]
Sakkuth and Kaiwan | Free online Bible classes | BiblicalTraining.org
"The worship of heavenly bodies constituted a real threat to Israel and she was warned against it and condemned for it repeatedly (Deut 4:19; 2 Kings 17:16). In the period of Assyrian domination, esp. after the reign of Shalmaneser III (858-824 b.c.) it became very popular. From a Babylonian incantation it is evident that Sakkuth and Kaiwan were interchangeable names for the god Saturn. Amos warned Israel that devotion to this god would bring ultimate ruin, and that she must detach herself from it (Amos 5:26). "
Satisfied yet?
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Your interpretation is the one that is incorrect. You have eyes but cannot see and ears but cannot hear. It doesn't matter when Christians were first called by that name. It was a jewish word to mock jews who followed Christ, but the followers of Christ like the name.
Jesus started the church through Jews. The bride of Christ is the church, not the old testament Israel. The old covenant is no more.
Jews misunderstood the same prophecies about Israel that you are misunderstanding. Jesus came not as a great military leader but as a suffering servant who came to start the church so that we could do his work on earth in reconciling him with sinners.
We are not to selfishly focus on self preservation and protecting Israel.
What good does protecting Israel do? Let God worry about that, it is not yours to do so.
Jesus started the church through Jews. The bride of Christ is the church, not the old testament Israel. The old covenant is no more.
Jews misunderstood the same prophecies about Israel that you are misunderstanding. Jesus came not as a great military leader but as a suffering servant who came to start the church so that we could do his work on earth in reconciling him with sinners.
We are not to selfishly focus on self preservation and protecting Israel.
What good does protecting Israel do? Let God worry about that, it is not yours to do so.
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Exodus 22:21-24 New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]“Do not take advantage of the widow or the fatherless. [SUP]23 [/SUP]If you do and they cry out to me, I will certainly hear their cry. [SUP]24 [/SUP]My anger will be aroused, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives will become widows and your children fatherless.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]“Do not take advantage of the widow or the fatherless. [SUP]23 [/SUP]If you do and they cry out to me, I will certainly hear their cry. [SUP]24 [/SUP]My anger will be aroused, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives will become widows and your children fatherless.
In Isaiah 11:10 God differentiates between the GENTILES that seek HIM, with His people ISRAEL(Jews)JUDAH(Jews) in Isaiah 11:11-12 that He will regather.
Why does the whole world hate Israel? Why would satan use islam to try and exterminate the Jews if satan was happy they were in the land? PLEASE, ask yourself that question. Yes it's true the Jews must accept Jesus to be saved like everybody else, but they will look on Him whom they pierced, and a remnant of the regathered will believe and accept Him.
Why would YOU want to be a part of those who are persecuting the Jews? THAT isthe real question.
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Is not Israel full of sinners? Are they not fallible?
If they oppress people, should we not oppose them?
Let God worry about his prophecies, you can trust in his promises
Your job is to feed the poor, love your enemies, give comfort to those who are weary
Stop worshipping Israel. Stop protecting Israel.
If you keep Israel accountable, you are not sinning, but you sin by opposing justice
Are you afraid that God will not keep his promises?
If they oppress people, should we not oppose them?
Let God worry about his prophecies, you can trust in his promises
Your job is to feed the poor, love your enemies, give comfort to those who are weary
Stop worshipping Israel. Stop protecting Israel.
If you keep Israel accountable, you are not sinning, but you sin by opposing justice
Are you afraid that God will not keep his promises?