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The forum is fortunate to have someone as educated and intellectual as Rachel.
Not so fortunate to have the opposite of that in posters like False_VoiceInTheDesert who post a lot of false information and string it together to "prove" statements that are actually false. The forum could do without that and would certainly be better off without the misinformation campaigns of such ones.
Not so fortunate to have the opposite of that in posters like False_VoiceInTheDesert who post a lot of false information and string it together to "prove" statements that are actually false. The forum could do without that and would certainly be better off without the misinformation campaigns of such ones.
Here is the promise...
Isaiah 11-11,12
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
You'd have to be purposefully ignorant not to see this happening right now.
Isaiah 11-11,12
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
You'd have to be purposefully ignorant not to see this happening right now.
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The Jews misread the prophecies for the coming messiah, just as many Christians misread the prophecies regarding Israel.
You are too hard hearted and proud to see the error of your ways.
Trust in this:
God commands you to love your enemy, love your neighbor, be merciful and loving, stand on the side of the poor, oppressed, downtrodden, widowed, orphaned and alien. Do you repay hatred with hatred. Stand on the side of justice. Do not bear false witness against your enemy.
You are more concerned in the future of Israel than you are in keeping his commands.
You look away while Israel uses depleted uranium and white phosphorus to kill widows, orphans and homeless of Palestine.
You say "they are only defending themselves" and siding with the liar when you see Palestinian homes burned and demolished in the name of fulfilling biblical prophecy. The bible and its prophecies have become more important than people.
You spit on Jesus and his commands to love your neighbor as yourself and to turn the other cheek.
You act as if the bible is more important than God and the intended meaning of the bible.
You laugh as Israel murders God's Christian Palestinian children and you act like God is on your side.
You are modern day Pharisees -- you fail to see the heart of the gospel. Instead you are legalistic. You are whitewashed tombs -- you look good on the outside, but you are dead and rotting on the inside.
You are too hard hearted and proud to see the error of your ways.
Trust in this:
God commands you to love your enemy, love your neighbor, be merciful and loving, stand on the side of the poor, oppressed, downtrodden, widowed, orphaned and alien. Do you repay hatred with hatred. Stand on the side of justice. Do not bear false witness against your enemy.
You are more concerned in the future of Israel than you are in keeping his commands.
You look away while Israel uses depleted uranium and white phosphorus to kill widows, orphans and homeless of Palestine.
You say "they are only defending themselves" and siding with the liar when you see Palestinian homes burned and demolished in the name of fulfilling biblical prophecy. The bible and its prophecies have become more important than people.
You spit on Jesus and his commands to love your neighbor as yourself and to turn the other cheek.
You act as if the bible is more important than God and the intended meaning of the bible.
You laugh as Israel murders God's Christian Palestinian children and you act like God is on your side.
You are modern day Pharisees -- you fail to see the heart of the gospel. Instead you are legalistic. You are whitewashed tombs -- you look good on the outside, but you are dead and rotting on the inside.
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I too am highly educated, but what difference does that make? Truth is truth. God lifts the small and weak things of this world so that he will be glorified.
Rachel does not need to be glorified. It doesn't matter if she is the master of all Pharisees, she opposes justice when she supports a nation like Israel.
Rachel does not need to be glorified. It doesn't matter if she is the master of all Pharisees, she opposes justice when she supports a nation like Israel.
Just a fyi, only people of faith have access to God.
Being born a jew does not make you God's chosen people. Many ethnic jew died in the desert and at the foot of Mt Sanai. Its always been faith and those who deny Christ are not saved nor are they God's chosen people.
That does not mean God has no plans for the jews, quite the opposite, but no one who does not confess Jesus as Lord can or will make it to heaven, jew or gentile.
Being born a jew does not make you God's chosen people. Many ethnic jew died in the desert and at the foot of Mt Sanai. Its always been faith and those who deny Christ are not saved nor are they God's chosen people.
That does not mean God has no plans for the jews, quite the opposite, but no one who does not confess Jesus as Lord can or will make it to heaven, jew or gentile.
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I would show Him the land that He gave to the Jews.
God's plan for Israel
Nations led by the Anti-Messiah will ‘fill up’ their rebellion against God. In that day, the world’s attempt at a “Final Solution” regarding Israel and “those Jews” will be the catalyst for the Second Coming of Messiah, Who will then destroy His enemies at Armegeddon. (see Romans 11:25; Luke 21:24, Revelation 16:16). To all the nations of the earth God Himself has sternly warned, And it will come about in that day that I will set about to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem (Zechariah 12:9). Unfortunately, man in his pride doesn’t believe God, and as David wrote in Psalm 2, they take their stand, and the rulers take counsel together against the LORD and against His Messiah. It is at the end of the Tribulation period, the time of Jacob’s trouble (Jeremiah 30:7), that surviving Israel will trust in Yeshua and be grafted back into the ‘olive tree’, even as Paul prophesied – and thus all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, "The Deliverer will come from Zion, He will remove ungodliness from Jacob" (Romans 11:23-27). According to the prophet Zechariah, in the future, Israel will look unto Messiah, whom they have pierced (Zechariah 12:10), confess their sin of rejecting Him (see Isaiah 53), and at that time Israel will be cleansed of their sins through His atonement (Zechariah 13:1). Zechariah then states that the result of Israel’s “looking to Messiah” will be His return to planet Earth to rescue them, And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:4). This correlates perfectly with the New Covenant teaching that Messiah will not return until Israel repents nationally, as Yeshua said, Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! For I say to you, from now on you shall not see Me until you say, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’” (Matthew 23:38,39). In that day Israel’s repentance and trust in Yeshua will usher in the Messianic kingdom period declared by all of Israel’s prophets (Acts 3:19-22).
God's plan for Israel
Nations led by the Anti-Messiah will ‘fill up’ their rebellion against God. In that day, the world’s attempt at a “Final Solution” regarding Israel and “those Jews” will be the catalyst for the Second Coming of Messiah, Who will then destroy His enemies at Armegeddon. (see Romans 11:25; Luke 21:24, Revelation 16:16). To all the nations of the earth God Himself has sternly warned, And it will come about in that day that I will set about to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem (Zechariah 12:9). Unfortunately, man in his pride doesn’t believe God, and as David wrote in Psalm 2, they take their stand, and the rulers take counsel together against the LORD and against His Messiah. It is at the end of the Tribulation period, the time of Jacob’s trouble (Jeremiah 30:7), that surviving Israel will trust in Yeshua and be grafted back into the ‘olive tree’, even as Paul prophesied – and thus all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, "The Deliverer will come from Zion, He will remove ungodliness from Jacob" (Romans 11:23-27). According to the prophet Zechariah, in the future, Israel will look unto Messiah, whom they have pierced (Zechariah 12:10), confess their sin of rejecting Him (see Isaiah 53), and at that time Israel will be cleansed of their sins through His atonement (Zechariah 13:1). Zechariah then states that the result of Israel’s “looking to Messiah” will be His return to planet Earth to rescue them, And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:4). This correlates perfectly with the New Covenant teaching that Messiah will not return until Israel repents nationally, as Yeshua said, Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! For I say to you, from now on you shall not see Me until you say, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’” (Matthew 23:38,39). In that day Israel’s repentance and trust in Yeshua will usher in the Messianic kingdom period declared by all of Israel’s prophets (Acts 3:19-22).
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You ever heard of the saying "So heavenly minded that he's of no earthly use"? That pretty much sums you up.
Let God focus on his promises and prophecies. That is not your concern! Do you have no faith that he will carry them out? Do you think you have to help them along and protect Israel to make sure God's promises come true?
Your concern is to keep God's commands!
Love your enemy, stand up against injustice, do not bear false witness, etc
Do you not care that Israel is daily killing children in Palestine?
If they were killing your next door neighbor would you care then? Probably. So why not care about a Palestinian child?
Is the problem that Zionist Christians don't care about Palestinian children?
Let God focus on his promises and prophecies. That is not your concern! Do you have no faith that he will carry them out? Do you think you have to help them along and protect Israel to make sure God's promises come true?
Your concern is to keep God's commands!
Love your enemy, stand up against injustice, do not bear false witness, etc
Do you not care that Israel is daily killing children in Palestine?
If they were killing your next door neighbor would you care then? Probably. So why not care about a Palestinian child?
Is the problem that Zionist Christians don't care about Palestinian children?