Israeli spy, Jonathon Pollard, says American jews have dual loyalties and should leave the USA

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Reformed1689

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And the re- gathering continues...
God already fulfilled his promise to give them the land of Canaan. Current occupies are imposters, descendants of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
 
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God already fulfilled his promise to give them the land of Canaan. Current occupies are imposters, descendants of the Pharisees and Sadducees.


Not true in the least. Funny how Jews were Jewy enough to be murdered in the Holocaust but not Jewy enough to have a homeland. Odd isn't it?
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Fair question.
Yes. If there was a nation specifically made as a Christian homeland, then yes we should go there. The USA basically started out as Christians leaving their European homelands and making a culturally Christian nation.
Christian? Pish! The USA doesn't even have a cross on it's venerated flag.

Europe is still majority Christian notwithstanding the plans of our recent genocidal governments.
We still have multiple churches in most towns and villages. Thousands of them.
With all the individual characteristics of the peoples of Europe.
We still honour official Christian holidays.
 

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Not true in the least. Funny how Jews were Jewy enough to be murdered in the Holocaust but not Jewy enough to have a homeland. Odd isn't it?
That's what they argue about among their own selves was that 80% of the Jew's were "Haredim" (murdered in ww2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredim_and_Zionism It's like saying that David Koresh got millions of Christians murdered because somebody thought all Christians were like the Branch Davidians..
 

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Revelation 2:9 “‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

The bible is kind of anti-semitic by modern standards. Maybe you should put away buzz words and stick to the issue.
Judge NOT lest you be judged.

There are some pretty big MOTES in the eyes of us all, I for one, will not jump on the band wagon to point a finger at anyone
 

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RE: This article

Many immigrants from many places are loyal to their native country, it is not unusual, it is all part of the melting pot thing
 
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I smell Antisemitism
And it stinks
I just tell the truth as best I can. If I don't get called a racist, sexist, homophobic, antisemitic nazi at least once a day, then I feel like I'm not doing my job. Usually it's the anti-christian left that tells me that though. So my advise to you would be to stop and reconsider when you find yourself using the same, tired old rhetoric and insults as the anti-christians. It's usually (but not always) an indicator that you're scraping the bottom of your intellectual barrel.

RE: This article
Many immigrants from many places are loyal to their native country, it is not unusual, it is all part of the melting pot thing
Yes! You are totally correct. It's suicidal to allow mass immigration from anywhere! Mass immigration is no different than warfare. It IS warfare. The "melting pot" is another psyop (from Israel Zangwill) designed to get us to swallow the suicide pill called diversity.
 

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Christian? Pish! The USA doesn't even have a cross on it's venerated flag.

Europe is still majority Christian notwithstanding the plans of our recent genocidal governments.
We still have multiple churches in most towns and villages. Thousands of them.
With all the individual characteristics of the peoples of Europe.
We still honour official Christian holidays.
Europe is not majority Christian. It's incredibly secular and atheist.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Europe is not majority Christian. It's incredibly secular and atheist.
We aren't finished yet.

It's the national Good Friday public holiday here tomorrow.
Banks, schools & government offices are all closed, secular or not. Continues on Easter Sunday & Monday.
It's been that way all my life.


Good Friday is also a public holiday in Spain, The Netherlands, Norway, Italy & Germany among others.
Everyone knows it's the day we observe the crucifixion of Jesus.


Hallelujah!
 
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We aren't finished yet.

It's the national Good Friday public holiday here tomorrow.
Banks, schools & government offices are all closed, secular or not. Continues on Easter Sunday & Monday.
It's been that way all my life.


Good Friday is also a public holiday in Spain, The Netherlands, Norway, Italy & Germany among others.
Everyone knows it's the day we observe the crucifixion of Jesus.


Hallelujah!
I love the positive spirit! Things might be bad, but we never give up hope. We never give up on the One who redeemed us. You are so right - "We aren't finished yet"!

Christianity is flourishing in Eastern Europe. I think there is a segment of Christians that are waking up to the threats we face. And I think that's going to continue to grow because historically Christianity does better under stress than it does under prosperity.

Hard times produce strong men.
Strong men produce good times.
Good time produce soft men.
Soft men produce hard times. <----we are entering this stage now. Time for us to toughen up!

Have a great Easter! Keep spreading that hope, Lucy!
 

Reformed1689

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We aren't finished yet.

It's the national Good Friday public holiday here tomorrow.
Banks, schools & government offices are all closed, secular or not. Continues on Easter Sunday & Monday.
It's been that way all my life.


Good Friday is also a public holiday in Spain, The Netherlands, Norway, Italy & Germany among others.
Everyone knows it's the day we observe the crucifixion of Jesus.


Hallelujah!
In order to be fair I must say that the below map is from 2010 and I'm sure its quite lower now.

 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I love the positive spirit! Things might be bad, but we never give up hope. We never give up on the One who redeemed us. You are so right - "We aren't finished yet"!

Christianity is flourishing in Eastern Europe. I think there is a segment of Christians that are waking up to the threats we face. And I think that's going to continue to grow because historically Christianity does better under stress than it does under prosperity.

Hard times produce strong men.
Strong men produce good times.
Good time produce soft men.
Soft men produce hard times. <----we are entering this stage now. Time for us to toughen up!

Have a great Easter! Keep spreading that hope, Lucy!
Happy Easter to you too.

There is hope, on both sides of the Atlantic & other places.
Sometimes, as he often did with Israel- God uses bad leadership & hardship to wake the people up and cause us to seek him.
 
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Is God anti-semitic?
Good question. If the same standards are used, I don't see how the answer can be anything other than "yes".

"Antisemitism" is one of these words that basically means nothing anymore because it's just an accusation that people throw around as a weapon to silence those they disagree with. It's just like "racism".

Don't like it that someone is pointing out crime statistics? Call them a racist!
Don't like it that someone questions the official narrative of known liars? Call them antisemitic!

Theres a movement to get guys to stop viewing porn. Guess what? That's antisemitic!
If you speak against globalism....that's antisemitic!
If you suggest that Christians support a fellow Christian, then, again, you're probably antisemitic!

It's all so tiresome.
 
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A christian homeland for all denominations? Or only the Christians who believe the same as you do?

Can Mexican and Israeli Christians as well as Christians from every nation come there as well? Will they need a visa?
Why not admit not all people who claim the name of Christ are His? ANY true Christian should be able to fellowship openly with other TRUE Believers. The Bible claims love towards each other is the way to ID a REAL Christian. That said, ANY Christian from any part of the world is a member of the biggest family on the planet, and should be able to joyously worship God as one voice. I LOVE being a Christian ❤️✝️🤠🎈
 

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According to your POV ,yes!
God called the nation of israel and the israelites whores, and having been given over to whoredom. Do you believe Ezekiel 16 isn't part of the bible, or that God is anti-semitic?



15 “But you trusted in your beauty and played the whore[b] because of your renown and lavished your whorings[c] on any passerby; your beauty[d] became his. 16 You took some of your garments and made for yourself colorful shrines, and on them played the whore. The like has never been, nor ever shall be.[e] 17 You also took your beautiful jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given you, and made for yourself images of men, and with them played the whore. 18 And you took your embroidered garments to cover them, and set my oil and my incense before them. 19 Also my bread that I gave you—I fed you with fine flour and oil and honey—you set before them for a pleasing aroma; and so it was, declares the Lord God. 20 And you took your sons and your daughters, whom you had borne to me, and these you sacrificed to them to be devoured. Were your whorings so small a matter 21 that you slaughtered my children and delivered them up as an offering by fire to them? 22 And in all your abominations and your whorings you did not remember the days of your youth, when you were naked and bare, wallowing in your blood.
23 “And after all your wickedness (woe, woe to you! declares the Lord God), 24 you built yourself a vaulted chamber and made yourself a lofty place in every square. 25 At the head of every street you built your lofty place and made your beauty an abomination, offering yourself[f] to any passerby and multiplying your whoring. 26 You also played the whore with the Egyptians, your lustful neighbors, multiplying your whoring, to provoke me to anger. 27 Behold, therefore, I stretched out my hand against you and diminished your allotted portion and delivered you to the greed of your enemies, the daughters of the Philistines, who were ashamed of your lewd behavior. 28 You played the whore also with the Assyrians, because you were not satisfied; yes, you played the whore with them, and still you were not satisfied. 29 You multiplied your whoring also with the trading land of Chaldea, and even with this you were not satisfied.
 

Reformed1689

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According to your POV ,yes!
God on many occasions punished the Israelites for their treacherous sins with death and judgement through foreign nations. Is God anti-semitic?
Again the word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, make known to Jerusalem her abominations, 3 and say, Thus says the Lord God to Jerusalem: Your origin and your birth are of the land of the Canaanites; your father was an Amorite and your mother a Hittite. 4 And as for your birth, on the day you were born your cord was not cut, nor were you washed with water to cleanse you, nor rubbed with salt, nor wrapped in swaddling cloths. 5 No eye pitied you, to do any of these things to you out of compassion for you, but you were cast out on the open field, for you were abhorred, on the day that you were born.




Look, the Lord is destroying this land.[a] He will clean out the land completely and force all the people to go far away. 2 At that time whatever happens to the common people will also happen to the priests. Slaves and masters will be the same. Women slaves and their women masters will be the same. Buyers and sellers will be the same. Those who borrow and those who lend will be the same. Bankers and those who owe the bank will be the same. 3 Everyone will be forced out of the land. All the wealth will be taken. This will happen because the Lord commanded it. 4 The country will be empty and sad. The world will be empty and weak. The great leaders of the people in this land will become weak.
5 The people have ruined the land. They did what God said was wrong. They did not obey God’s laws. They made an agreement with God a long time ago, but they broke their agreement with God. 6 The people living in this land are guilty of doing wrong, so God promised to destroy the land. The people will be punished, and only a few of them will survive.
7 The grapevines are dying. The new wine is bad. People who were happy are now sad. 8 They have stopped showing their joy. The happy music from the drums and harps has ended. 9 They no longer sing as they drink their wine. The beer now tastes bitter to those who drink it.
10 “Total Confusion” is a good name for this city. The city has been destroyed. People cannot enter the houses. The doors are blocked. 11 People still ask for wine in the marketplaces, but all the joy is gone. It was carried off with everything else. 12 All that is left is destruction. Even the gates are crushed.