Jim Baker: Selling bunk Coronavirus cures

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That’s pretty thin evidence claiming any sort of campaign against holistic doctors.
And if there were three? How about five, or eight, or ten? The tragic reality is that there have been at least thirteen holistic doctors who have “turned up dead or missing” in just a few months. Here is a timeline of recent suspicious doctor deaths:


June 19th Dr. Jeffrey Bradstreet (see above)
June 21st Dr. Bruce Hedendal and Dr. Baron Holt found dead on the East coast of Florida. Dr. Hedendal died in his car and Dr. Holt’s cause of death has yet to be officially determined
.June 29th Dr. Theresa Sievers found murdered in her home. Dr. Jeffrey Whiteside goes missing. Reports say he just “walked away.
July 3rd Dr. Patrick Fitzpatrick, MD, goes missing without a trace. His truck and trailer were found on the side of the road
.July 10th Lisa Riley, Doctor of Osteopathy, found in her home with a gunshot wound to her head.
July 19th Dr. Ron Schwartz found murdered by a gunshot wound to the chest in his home on the East Coast of Florida
.July 21st Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez (see above
)July 21st Dr. Abdul-Karim, holistic dentist. Found dead on the side of the road at 10pm EST.
July 23rd Dr. Jeffery Whiteside is found dead in Door County with a .22 caliber close to his body.
August 14th Osteopath Dr. Mary Rene Bovier, found stabbed in her home in Sharon, Pennsylvania.
September 16th Dr. Mitch Gaynor is found dead outside his country home outside of Manhattan where he practiced. The local sheriff quickly calls it a suicide.
October 11th Dr. Marie Paas is found dead of an alleged suicide.
October 29th Dr. Jerome Block “jumped” to his death from the Central Park West Apartments.
And what did they have in common besides being “holistic?”
Almost all of them were operating in ways that undermined traditional pharmaceutical-based treatments.

https://globalpossibilities.org/who-is-killing-the-healers-and-why/
It's pretty thin reasoning to think anyone has done what you are saying there. You're the one that called the blue guy a fraud . You're the guy who said his skin wasn't really blue and it was a hoax, then shared an article that said he wasn't just a hoax but shared how he turned the skin you said wasn't really blue, blue.
Now you're going out on your own limb and saying this?

What's that called? A strawman?
 
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Oh, look , a fan of the palindrome. I'll see your wow and raise you a racecar.
Little girl, if you think it is hate to disagree with someone you have a long road of growing up to do. Jim Baker has a history of ripping people off and living as a millionaire for the trouble. His first scam proved he wasn't just greedy but that he was also really bad at math.
Now he's taking advantage of people who are afraid of this flu and he's selling them garbage to deal with it. His own spokeswoman doesn't even agree the silver garbage works on COVID-19.
If you think silver is garbage....you have been duped big time.
 

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From an article:
"Silver ions perform their deadly work by punching holes in bacterial membranes and wreaking havoc once inside. They bind to essential cell components like DNA, preventing the bacteria from performing even their most basic functions.

But silver's "zombie effect" has gone unrecognized—until now. To uncover this grisly mechanism, scientists first killed a sample of the bacterium Pseudomonas aeruginosa using a solution of silver nitrate. Then, they carefully separated the dead bacteria from the silver solution. When they exposed living bacteria to the dead, they witnessed a microscopic massacre: Up to 99.99% of the living bacteria met their doom.
Bacteria yes, virus no
 
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It's pretty thin reasoning to think anyone has done what you are saying there. You're the one that called the blue guy a fraud . You're the guy who said his skin wasn't really blue and it was a hoax, then shared an article that said he wasn't just a hoax but shared how he turned the skin you said wasn't really blue, blue.
Now you're going out on your own limb and saying this?

What's that called? A strawman?
HELLO???? I said the blue thingy existed. The blue man fallacy fraud is like saying "water poisoning happens all the time WATCH ME SHOW YOU WHERE ONE IN A MILLION GETS IT. Then act like you are a true informed detective
If you want to live in a fantasy land where silver is some bogey man have at it.
You have been duped. You are using a guy that MASSIVELY OVERDOSED ON SILVER.Ironically YOUR blue strawman
I PERSONALLY KNOW of several people taking it WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS,
Again you are spreading a bunch of poison on a very good virus killer big time,

Take antibiotics or your favorite prescribed medicine DAILY in massive doses, and get deathly sick,then condemn all doctors and prescriptions....that is basically what you are doing. That is your blue strawman

BTW,do a search,do some research and be amazed that you will wade through the muck of 4 or 5 google pages before you find one pro silver article.
You are buying the propaganda.
 
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You're not paying attention. I'm talking about Baker and his garbage. Are you paying attention?
He most likely does not make it. He probably repackages it
Are you paying attention?
Connecting someone you dislike with a product that is connected to them is disingenuous.

You would need to disclaim you are not demonizing all silver.
 
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oh no, not 'haters' at all, just 'discerners of good and evil'...
I wont go that far but i can not watch him. I just refuse to call a brother evil.
(see samuel where david refused to harm an evil king because of the anointing on the king)
 
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I wont go that far but i can not watch him. I just refuse to call a brother evil.
(see samuel where david refused to harm an evil king because of the anointing on the king)
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those that commit apostasy are NOT 'brothers'...
 
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He most likely does not make it. He probably repackages it
Are you paying attention?
Connecting someone you dislike with a product that is connected to them is disingenuous.

You would need to disclaim you are not demonizing all silver.
No I don't. I'm in a discussion about Jim Baker and his latest scam.
You're not paying attention if you don't know that talking about Bakker's scam isn't the same as talking about all silver products.
And since he has been arrested for his scam, you might want to pay that attention too.
 

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Hmm so help me here.. Jesus forgives us... no matter how many times we fall back into that OLD sin? So when a child of GOD not our child goofs up.. or misses it or was told wrong, believed wrong.. didn't want to listen what ever. And we get that thought (not from GOD) did he even change? I got that thought... Well WHO remembers our past, our sins? And then .. who already forgave us?

Do you know who helped Jim Bakker when he was in prison? Who came to visit him when NO ONE else did? Who was standing out side when he got out and helped him? Not me.. not you..not the church you or I went to or go to. But the late Billy Graham. When Christ said.. if you've done it unto the least of these "MY BRETHREN" you've done it unto me.

The lol main reason I ALWAYS stick up for anyone is.... I look in the mirror and i KNOW who I was. I know everything I keep doing. And this GOD .. still here. Never left. To this day.. never once makes me feel guilty bad... HOW.. how can He not see all the evil I did and do.. and how many times I HURT HIM. For my YOUR sin is against HIM and only Him do we do this evil in his sight.

He has given me shown me so much mercy and grace that.. I don't care how many times they fall. Since JESUS is ALWAYS there when I fall.. the ONLY ONE that picks me up and carries me.. I will show ALL this same mercy.

IF I was to judge? I would go to to THEM. I would bring others with me to help that person... to pray for them. Gods not going to listen to me talk about what Jim Bakker did.. HAHA your fooling your self or deceived. Christ will point RIGHT back at you. Did you love him? Did you pray try to help?

This is not the only thread here that does this. What do you think Christ meant by "they will know you are mine by your LOVE one for another" Jims not here. Gossip.. this just STOPS the sweet Holy Spirit.

And NO.. I do not watch Bakker. If you followed me for a week.. SAD but true is.. you could ask "does he ever repent?" Every night.. so many times I CRY out to Him... to change. YOU would never see it. YOU would judge me.. but would all be wrong. Christ and my Father see my heart. And cleanses me from ALL unrighteousness.

So yes lol this is just wrong. So lets pray for him. Stand in the gap for him. Again.. I was shown ...great mercy and grace. I ME ME can not say I love JESUS and NOT do the same
An Apostate is not in Christ. Never was.
Jim Bakker, and yes we've all seemingly spelled his name wrong, has never behaved as a man of God. He's always been committed to the long con.

Maybe recall that verse where Jesus warns about those who will charge him with remembering their saying, Lord, Lord! While Jesus responds, He never knew them!
 

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He also sells bibles which people have been arrested for and some governments denounce as fake
You're conflating two different issues entirely. Jim Bakker sold PTL stamped KJV Bibles at the time he was performing his scam of the PTL membership. That scam is what sent him to prison.
Even the devil can quote scripture. Does that make him OK?
I dont like him either,but to put down a known EFFECTIVE treatment is ridiculous.
I agree with others here. You are not at all paying attention to what is being discussed. You appear to be so ready to jump on the JB defense train that you fail to realize Jim Bakker is being investigated, and was allegedly arrested, for selling a product that is NOT an effective treatment.
That product is exclusively what is being discussed here as well.
 
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I watched his show, before he started selling the silver snake oil, for as long as I could stomach. He cites scripture once in a while just to support what he's hawking.
He hawks bulk food supplies for his Christian audience to survive Armageddon. One would think that should be enough to make any Christian turn the channel as their stomach churns realizing what that man is actually saying about them and most importantly, his incapacity to fully represent Christ or ever claim himself to be His minister.

I truly wish it were not so because for all who name the name above ALL names, it is a shame to hear him say the name of Jesus

the world mocks and some of us cringe when we hear him

every single thing that might cause any worry to anyone, or any event that causes people to sit up and take notice...he is there, complete with books and cds and taken out of context scripture

like an ambulance chaser :cautious:
 

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I truly wish it were not so because for all who name the name above ALL names, it is a shame to hear him say the name of Jesus

the world mocks and some of us cringe when we hear him

every single thing that might cause any worry to anyone, or any event that causes people to sit up and take notice...he is there, complete with books and cds and taken out of context scripture

like an ambulance chaser :cautious:
He exploits fear. Before he exploited exclusivity in forming a PTL partnership.

Now he's exploiting fear of the end of days. We know he's not a Christian by his works. We know that the moment he opened his mouth on his latest network scam of gullible people. Offering them freeze dried survival foods in five gallon buckets so buyers could survive the Apocalypse, the day of Gods wrath, that he in his own words was telling viewers that.

And we can ask, how does he live with himself? All we have to do is search Google images for the answer; very well, thank you.
And remember when he was selling time share in the PTL park? Guess what he's also selling and has been for years.

CABINS! That will help you the Christian to survive the Apocalypse. I found that out when I searched for pictures of his mansion.
This link is to a whole slew of his latest scams. Water bottles for $150.00! They better refill themselves with the highest quality mineral water for that price.

He's an atheist! He cannot possibly believe in the same God that warns against all that he's done since his career in "ministry" began and think he's exempt. He's running the same scam as he did with PTL. Different location, different facade, same scam.
 
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He exploits fear. Before he exploited exclusivity in forming a PTL partnership.

Now he's exploiting fear of the end of days. We know he's not a Christian by his works. We know that the moment he opened his mouth on his latest network scam of gullible people. Offering them freeze dried survival foods in five gallon buckets so buyers could survive the Apocalypse, the day of Gods wrath, that he in his own words was telling viewers that.

And we can ask, how does he live with himself? All we have to do is search Google images for the answer; very well, thank you.
And remember when he was selling time share in the PTL park? Guess what he's also selling and has been for years.

CABINS! That will help you the Christian to survive the Apocalypse. I found that out when I searched for pictures of his mansion.
This link is to a whole slew of his latest scams. Water bottles for $150.00! They better refill themselves with the highest quality mineral water for that price.

He's an atheist! He cannot possibly believe in the same God that warns against all that he's done since his career in "ministry" began and think he's exempt.

this is the seduction of Christianity and it has been going on for years and years

the actual gospel has always been free. Jesus paid the ultimate price

in fact his comeback has been described as the second coming of Jim Bakker

and he is one of many