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Very Peculiar
Several people have shared that King Charles cannot be the Antichrist, so I ask them for the Bible verse that disqualifies him.
No one mentions 666 because the number of his name is 666. They don't respond to the verses provided that correspond to him. They don't talk about his birthday or heraldic achievement. They don't talk about his work with the UN and climate change. They don't talk about the creepy pantheistic and satanic symbolism at his coronation.
Some say the Antichrist is not from England. But do not provide a verse.
One said he is from Greece, and yet ignore the fact that his father was the Prince of Greece.
One says that the British Royal family isn't worth a cup of spit, yet for some reason this same person is reading a thread about King Charles and is 300+ posts in.
No one denies that when it comes to pomp no one has more pomp than the British Royal family, especially with Prince Charles wedding to Diana, the Queen's death, and Charles' coronation.
No one responds to the winged statue that was made of King Charles called "Savior of the World" that is designed to go into the Jewish Temple when that is rebuilt. No one responds to the fact that he is king of the British commonwealth that represents 1/4th of all the countries on the earth and 1/3rd of all the people. No one responds to the fact that he is the wealthiest man on earth by a very wide margin, or that he is a 33rd degree FreeMason.
Nope, the only real reason given is that someone denies he is related to both King David and Mohammed. Granted the official lineage of the royals ties them to these two people and granted rabbis in Israel have confirmed the link to David and grand Mufti's in the Islamic world confirm the link to Mohammed, this person has said it isn't true because all those people are liars (I paraphrase).
So then after all this debate they have not put forth a single verse or a single piece of evidence to refute this claim of King Charles being the Antichrist. Very peculiar.
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Several people have shared that King Charles cannot be the Antichrist, so I ask them for the Bible verse that disqualifies him.
No one mentions 666 because the number of his name is 666. They don't respond to the verses provided that correspond to him. They don't talk about his birthday or heraldic achievement. They don't talk about his work with the UN and climate change. They don't talk about the creepy pantheistic and satanic symbolism at his coronation.
Some say the Antichrist is not from England. But do not provide a verse.
One said he is from Greece, and yet ignore the fact that his father was the Prince of Greece.
One says that the British Royal family isn't worth a cup of spit, yet for some reason this same person is reading a thread about King Charles and is 300+ posts in.
No one denies that when it comes to pomp no one has more pomp than the British Royal family, especially with Prince Charles wedding to Diana, the Queen's death, and Charles' coronation.
No one responds to the winged statue that was made of King Charles called "Savior of the World" that is designed to go into the Jewish Temple when that is rebuilt. No one responds to the fact that he is king of the British commonwealth that represents 1/4th of all the countries on the earth and 1/3rd of all the people. No one responds to the fact that he is the wealthiest man on earth by a very wide margin, or that he is a 33rd degree FreeMason.
Nope, the only real reason given is that someone denies he is related to both King David and Mohammed. Granted the official lineage of the royals ties them to these two people and granted rabbis in Israel have confirmed the link to David and grand Mufti's in the Islamic world confirm the link to Mohammed, this person has said it isn't true because all those people are liars (I paraphrase).
So then after all this debate they have not put forth a single verse or a single piece of evidence to refute this claim of King Charles being the Antichrist. Very peculiar.
The Black Prince (aka Dark Lord) is back
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I am wondering how he would be the antichrist if he is not coping with his current duties. Frankly I dont think he is any more capable than Mr Bean. However he has evil connections so that makes him dangerous. I would look elsewhere if you are interested in who the antichrist is. Many peoples name add up to 666.
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20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom,.... This was not Antiochus Epiphanes, as Theodoret, he is designed in the next verse; nor Ptolemy Epiphanes; as Porphyry, for he did not succeed Antiochus the great; nor Tryphon, tutor to Antiochus, as some Jewish writers; but Seleucus Philopator, the eldest son of Antiochus the great; who succeeded him, and was settled in his kingdom in his father's room, and stood upon his basis; and might well be called a raiser of taxes, being not only a covetous man, and a lover of money above all things; and therefore laid heavy taxes on his subjects, to gratify his avarice; but was indeed obliged to it, to raise the thousand talents yearly to pay the Romans, which his father had laid himself under obligation to do; and this took up the whole life of this his successor; for as there were twelve thousand talents to pay, a thousand each year, and Seleucus reigned in all but twelve years at most, he did nothing but raise taxes yearly to pay this tribute. It may be rendered, "then shall stand upon his basis": or, "in his room", as the Vulgate Latin version, in the room of Antiochus the great, "one that causes the exactors to pass through the glory of the kingdom" (o); that causes tax gatherers to go through the kingdom, and collect the tax of the people, who are the glory of the kingdom, especially the rich, the nobility, and gentry; or money, which is the glory of a nation: or, "shall cause the exactors to pass over to the glory of the kingdom"; that is, cause a tax gatherer to go over from Syria to the glorious land, or the glorious part of his dominion, the land of Judea; and so may have respect particularly to Heliodorus his treasurer, whom he sent to Jerusalem to demand the treasure of money he heard was laid up in the temple there; in the Apocrypha:
"Now when Apollonius came to the king, and had shewed him of the money whereof he was told, the king chose out Heliodorus his treasurer, and sent him with a commandment to bring him the foresaid money.'' (2 Maccabees 3:7)
but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle; or, within a few years, as Grotius and Prideaux render it; "days" being often put for years. Seleucus reigned but twelve years at most, which were but few in comparison of the long reign of his father, which was a reign of thirty seven years; and he died not through the rage of the populace, or through the sedition and rebellion of his subjects, nor in war, with a foreign enemy; but through the treachery of Heliodorus his treasurer, by whom he was poisoned, as is supposed; either for the sake of Antiochus Epiphanes, who was at that very time returning from Rome, where he had been an hostage ever since the defeat of his father, the money being now paid, which was stipulated; or rather on his own account, having a design to seize the kingdom for himself. Gill
Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom,.... This was not Antiochus Epiphanes, as Theodoret, he is designed in the next verse; nor Ptolemy Epiphanes; as Porphyry, for he did not succeed Antiochus the great; nor Tryphon, tutor to Antiochus, as some Jewish writers; but Seleucus Philopator, the eldest son of Antiochus the great; who succeeded him, and was settled in his kingdom in his father's room, and stood upon his basis; and might well be called a raiser of taxes, being not only a covetous man, and a lover of money above all things; and therefore laid heavy taxes on his subjects, to gratify his avarice; but was indeed obliged to it, to raise the thousand talents yearly to pay the Romans, which his father had laid himself under obligation to do; and this took up the whole life of this his successor; for as there were twelve thousand talents to pay, a thousand each year, and Seleucus reigned in all but twelve years at most, he did nothing but raise taxes yearly to pay this tribute. It may be rendered, "then shall stand upon his basis": or, "in his room", as the Vulgate Latin version, in the room of Antiochus the great, "one that causes the exactors to pass through the glory of the kingdom" (o); that causes tax gatherers to go through the kingdom, and collect the tax of the people, who are the glory of the kingdom, especially the rich, the nobility, and gentry; or money, which is the glory of a nation: or, "shall cause the exactors to pass over to the glory of the kingdom"; that is, cause a tax gatherer to go over from Syria to the glorious land, or the glorious part of his dominion, the land of Judea; and so may have respect particularly to Heliodorus his treasurer, whom he sent to Jerusalem to demand the treasure of money he heard was laid up in the temple there; in the Apocrypha:
"Now when Apollonius came to the king, and had shewed him of the money whereof he was told, the king chose out Heliodorus his treasurer, and sent him with a commandment to bring him the foresaid money.'' (2 Maccabees 3:7)
but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle; or, within a few years, as Grotius and Prideaux render it; "days" being often put for years. Seleucus reigned but twelve years at most, which were but few in comparison of the long reign of his father, which was a reign of thirty seven years; and he died not through the rage of the populace, or through the sedition and rebellion of his subjects, nor in war, with a foreign enemy; but through the treachery of Heliodorus his treasurer, by whom he was poisoned, as is supposed; either for the sake of Antiochus Epiphanes, who was at that very time returning from Rome, where he had been an hostage ever since the defeat of his father, the money being now paid, which was stipulated; or rather on his own account, having a design to seize the kingdom for himself. Gill
Gill is incorrect, like he usually is, not knowing pretty much anything about the Bible nor about the Seleucid Empire. None of Daniel 11 has occured yet. Also Seleucus Philopater reigned for like 12 years, not a matter of days. Also he died very violently being assassinated, so you can't say he died without anger nor battle.
This is unrelated to the topic, but speaking of genealogy, do you know yours ZNP? I can trace mine with documentation up and around 1400 but the region is as ancient as the ancient Greece.
I'm leaving my family tree to my kids, but it's fascinating to know where we come from and to see the names and the pictures of the people before us.
I wish i could look back in time to see Jesus himself. That would be beyond joyful. It would be amazing.
Yes, I know my genealogy. My older brother is very interested in this, I am not. I cannot think of anything being better than being born of the Father and having Jesus as my older brother.
However, I did become very interested in the Bible code. Using a simple skip sequence they can find people's names in the Bible. I wanted to see if they could find my name and if so what Bible verses were involved. So they take your full name (17 letters in my case) my Mom's name, my Dad's name, my daughter's name, where I was born and the year. They did a skip search and all the key people their names intersected my name and they found the date of my birth and the location of my birth all in that Bible code. In total the odds of this is about 26 raised to the 42nd power.
But they have done this with hundreds, probably thousands of other people.
They have also tried doing this with 1 million other books without success.
The only explanation I can come up with is what John says "all things came into being through the word and apart from the word nothing that has come into being has come into being".
However, I did become very interested in the Bible code. Using a simple skip sequence they can find people's names in the Bible. I wanted to see if they could find my name and if so what Bible verses were involved. So they take your full name (17 letters in my case) my Mom's name, my Dad's name, my daughter's name, where I was born and the year. They did a skip search and all the key people their names intersected my name and they found the date of my birth and the location of my birth all in that Bible code. In total the odds of this is about 26 raised to the 42nd power.
But they have done this with hundreds, probably thousands of other people.
They have also tried doing this with 1 million other books without success.
The only explanation I can come up with is what John says "all things came into being through the word and apart from the word nothing that has come into being has come into being".
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King Charles in not qualified to be the Antichrist because he is not a Jew. A Jew within the religion of Judaism is anyone who's mother is a Jew.
Also King Charles's religion is not Judaism.
To become the Antichrist, the person must be anointed the King of Israel. Christ (Christos) comes from a translation of the Hebrew word for "anointed". John 4:25. In the history of Israel, the priests and kings were considered anointed's. "the" messiah though is referring to a special anointed who will be the King of Israel during the messianic age of peace and safety among other things.
The Jews (Judaism) are looking for such a person, They also hold that he will be anointed the King of Israel by a known prophet. Which they are expecting Elijah the prophet to come to ready the nation for the messianic age.
The false prophet of Revelation 13 appears to be someone who will present himself as Elijah the prophet. And will anoint the
the prince who shall come, the King of Israel - making that person the Antichrist.
Being the Antichrist is only one phase of the person's evolving path on his way to the lake of fire.
First, he will be the little horn person leader of a group of ten EU kings > then he becomes the prince who shall come following the Gog/Magog event > then he become the Antichrist - King of Israel, coming in his own name > then he becomes the revealed man of sin, son of perdition (2Thesslaonians2:3-4) > then he is killed and comes back to life as the beast (king) of Revelation 13, the mortally wouned but healed head.
Also King Charles's religion is not Judaism.
To become the Antichrist, the person must be anointed the King of Israel. Christ (Christos) comes from a translation of the Hebrew word for "anointed". John 4:25. In the history of Israel, the priests and kings were considered anointed's. "the" messiah though is referring to a special anointed who will be the King of Israel during the messianic age of peace and safety among other things.
The Jews (Judaism) are looking for such a person, They also hold that he will be anointed the King of Israel by a known prophet. Which they are expecting Elijah the prophet to come to ready the nation for the messianic age.
The false prophet of Revelation 13 appears to be someone who will present himself as Elijah the prophet. And will anoint the
the prince who shall come, the King of Israel - making that person the Antichrist.
Being the Antichrist is only one phase of the person's evolving path on his way to the lake of fire.
First, he will be the little horn person leader of a group of ten EU kings > then he becomes the prince who shall come following the Gog/Magog event > then he become the Antichrist - King of Israel, coming in his own name > then he becomes the revealed man of sin, son of perdition (2Thesslaonians2:3-4) > then he is killed and comes back to life as the beast (king) of Revelation 13, the mortally wouned but healed head.
No, Satan does not possess the person during the person's time as the beast king. The person will be possessed though - by the spirit of the garden of eden serpent beast - now in the bottomless pit.
You are likely getting your view based on Revelation 17:8 - thinking that it is referring to Satan. However, Satan is not in the bottomless pit - and has not died. Revelation 17:7 informs us that the angel is about to present the mystery of the Scarlet-colored beast - Satan.
Revelation 17:8 is about that mystery. Satan was/will be connected to two entities (1) the beast who was and is not, and is in the bottomless pit - the garden of Eden serpent beast, now a disembodied spirit to someday come out and enter the end times person's soul (possess) (2) the end times person who the world will witness being killed and come back to life - as the beast king. King 7 of Revelation 17:10, who becomes king 8, the beast king.
Satan's end times presence during the time/times/half time he will have left, when the beast king and false prophet are in full swing in Revelation 13 - will be that Satan will incarnate the statue image of the beast-king, making it appear to come alive and speak.
That way Satan will be worshiped, Revelation 13:4 - unwittingly - by anyone who worships that statue image - the abomination of desolation that will be placed on the temple mount.
When Jesus returns, that statue image will go up in flames and turned to ashes, as Jesus stares it down. Revealing Satan to everyone there on the temple mount - present with the false prophet and the beast king.
Ezekiel 28:16-19, is what that future occurrence is based on.
You are likely getting your view based on Revelation 17:8 - thinking that it is referring to Satan. However, Satan is not in the bottomless pit - and has not died. Revelation 17:7 informs us that the angel is about to present the mystery of the Scarlet-colored beast - Satan.
Revelation 17:8 is about that mystery. Satan was/will be connected to two entities (1) the beast who was and is not, and is in the bottomless pit - the garden of Eden serpent beast, now a disembodied spirit to someday come out and enter the end times person's soul (possess) (2) the end times person who the world will witness being killed and come back to life - as the beast king. King 7 of Revelation 17:10, who becomes king 8, the beast king.
Satan's end times presence during the time/times/half time he will have left, when the beast king and false prophet are in full swing in Revelation 13 - will be that Satan will incarnate the statue image of the beast-king, making it appear to come alive and speak.
That way Satan will be worshiped, Revelation 13:4 - unwittingly - by anyone who worships that statue image - the abomination of desolation that will be placed on the temple mount.
When Jesus returns, that statue image will go up in flames and turned to ashes, as Jesus stares it down. Revealing Satan to everyone there on the temple mount - present with the false prophet and the beast king.
Ezekiel 28:16-19, is what that future occurrence is based on.
I would like to see the specific Bible verses that support this doctrine.
Moses said that Christ would be a prophet like him. He was in Pharaoh's house, so he did not appear to be a Jew even though that was his birth. He certainly was not raised as a Jew but rather as an Egyptian.
According to Burke's peerage King Charles is a descendant of David and there are very, very few people at this point who can make that claim, a claim which the rabbi's in Israel have confirmed.
So then if the AntiChrist is going to be like Moses you would expect someone in the royal family, not raised as a Jew, but claiming Jewish heritage.
Moses said that Christ would be a prophet like him. He was in Pharaoh's house, so he did not appear to be a Jew even though that was his birth. He certainly was not raised as a Jew but rather as an Egyptian.
According to Burke's peerage King Charles is a descendant of David and there are very, very few people at this point who can make that claim, a claim which the rabbi's in Israel have confirmed.
So then if the AntiChrist is going to be like Moses you would expect someone in the royal family, not raised as a Jew, but claiming Jewish heritage.
John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
Later in the book of John, when Jesus rode into Jerusalem, hailed as the messiah, his followers said blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. The Antichrist will be the another that Jesus said the Jews would accept - "coming in his own name" in John 5:43.
John 12;13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.
14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,
15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
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John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
The Jews were led astray by their religious leaders who had Jesus crucified. Even some of the religious leaders though acknowledged that Christ's functional role was to be the King of Israel as they mocked him while he hung on the cross.
Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.
In the end times, the person who becomes the Antichrist does so by being anointed the King of Israel, but coming in his own name.
Later in the book of John, when Jesus rode into Jerusalem, hailed as the messiah, his followers said blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. The Antichrist will be the another that Jesus said the Jews would accept - "coming in his own name" in John 5:43.
John 12;13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.
14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,
15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
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John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
The Jews were led astray by their religious leaders who had Jesus crucified. Even some of the religious leaders though acknowledged that Christ's functional role was to be the King of Israel as they mocked him while he hung on the cross.
Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.
In the end times, the person who becomes the Antichrist does so by being anointed the King of Israel, but coming in his own name.
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I've heard that King Charles' crown is so heavy, that it's starting to give him a sore neck: You see, this is just one of the many things that royalty has to put up with!!!
Conversely, Queen Camilla, has, on many occasions, I believe, "crowned" her husband, by thumping him in the head, which, of course, would have also resulted in his acquiring a sore neck!!
So one has to ponder the question: Does Charles' sore neck result from: His royal crown being too heavy, or, from his being "crowned" by his wife, when he gets a bit naughty, or both?!!!
This is a most important dilema on which one has to ponder!!!
So do you see, now, the reason why it's so important to have a King and a Queen, in this day and age?!!
I look forward to your careful and well thought through responses!!
Oh, and as the British say: "TALLY-HO!!" and "Don't spare the horses!"!!!!
And "Carry on: What?!!!"!!
Over, and out!!!!
Douglas
Australia
("We're still part of the Commonwealth, you know, Old Boy!!"!!!!)
Conversely, Queen Camilla, has, on many occasions, I believe, "crowned" her husband, by thumping him in the head, which, of course, would have also resulted in his acquiring a sore neck!!
So one has to ponder the question: Does Charles' sore neck result from: His royal crown being too heavy, or, from his being "crowned" by his wife, when he gets a bit naughty, or both?!!!
This is a most important dilema on which one has to ponder!!!
So do you see, now, the reason why it's so important to have a King and a Queen, in this day and age?!!
I look forward to your careful and well thought through responses!!
Oh, and as the British say: "TALLY-HO!!" and "Don't spare the horses!"!!!!
And "Carry on: What?!!!"!!
Over, and out!!!!
Douglas
Australia
("We're still part of the Commonwealth, you know, Old Boy!!"!!!!)