Louisiana cops ambushed, 2 killed

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Mar 22, 2013
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sounds like you agree with shooting people have you watched the black being shot by the cops that sat on top? I have and it was so unnecessary to shoot him in the chest. The cops employ the taser more often than they shoot people. You can tell whether to use your gun or not. Hardly any cops get hurt or killed in NZ so must work.
and you forget NZ don't have the violent thugs that the US has
 
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sounds like you agree with shooting people have you watched the black being shot by the cops that sat on top? I have and it was so unnecessary to shoot him in the chest. The cops employ the taser more often than they shoot people. You can tell whether to use your gun or not. Hardly any cops get hurt or killed in NZ so must work.
I agree with stopping criminals to protect myself and others. I would like to see the video of the officer on top of someone and shooting them. I won't say I disagree or agree with it. Let me give you a real life example of an officer trying to decide between taser and gun.

I know an officer who had a drugged up guy trying to break into someone's home. The guy didn't have a weapon so the officer tried to talk him down. There were some large rocks in the yard and the guy grabbed one and charged the officer. The officer paused for a brief second trying to decide if he should pull taser or gun. He pulled taser, taser hit the person but one hook missed. Guy hits officer with rock and knocks him down. Now the officer is fighting for his life because the guy is trying to strip him of his gun. Lucky for the officer others ended up showing up and got the guy off of him.

I would like to see your NZ officers come over here and work the streets of Chicago, New York etc.. Then after a month or two here they can tell us what they used the most, taser or gun.
 

HS

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I agree with stopping criminals to protect myself and others. I would like to see the video of the officer on top of someone and shooting them. I won't say I disagree or agree with it. Let me give you a real life example of an officer trying to decide between taser and gun.

I know an officer who had a drugged up guy trying to break into someone's home. The guy didn't have a weapon so the officer tried to talk him down. There were some large rocks in the yard and the guy grabbed one and charged the officer. The officer paused for a brief second trying to decide if he should pull taser or gun. He pulled taser, taser hit the person but one hook missed. Guy hits officer with rock and knocks him down. Now the officer is fighting for his life because the guy is trying to strip him of his gun. Lucky for the officer others ended up showing up and got the guy off of him.

I would like to see your NZ officers come over here and work the streets of Chicago, New York etc.. Then after a month or two here they can tell us what they used the most, taser or gun.
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WarriorForChrist

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We don't have the guns that US has you need to change your gun laws.
Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the US and probably the world and they have gun violence daily. So your political views on guns don't hold any merit. Maybe you should keep your views about America to yourself. And when was the last time NZ had any real influence in the world? Probably never.
 
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Problem is that folks dont get that the 2nd Amendment is there to make sure the gov't stay in line...
 

HS

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Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the US and probably the world and they have gun violence daily. So your political views on guns don't hold any merit. Maybe you should keep your views about America to yourself. And when was the last time NZ had any real influence in the world? Probably never.
What prevents people smuggling guns from outside Chicago?
Tell me then why America is so violent and you are the only one in the UK, USA, Aus, and NZ to have mass shootings?
 
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What prevents people smuggling guns from outside Chicago?
Tell me then why America is so violent and you are the only one in the UK, USA, Aus, and NZ to have mass shootings?
There's quite a few reasons, but one thing is that the violence is not something going on throughout the country, it is limited to certain areas. I think I read somewhere that Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, St. Louis and a couple of other cities were places most of the serious crime took place. If you are studying the US Census Bureau's site, you will find a lot of interesting data which most of those places have in common.
 
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I was a cop for 12 years. In the recent shootings, the CD vendor and the guy in the car and a child in the back seat, neither was justified. Now, I wasn't there, but from what I could see on the various videos, the officer was too quick to go to his gun. I'm not sure what they are teaching cops these days in rookie school, but something is wrong. I don't know if they are letting their fears control their actions or what.
Having said that, war on the cops is not the answer. It's a tough job. Decisions are made in a split second and the public has days to decide what they should of done. Just like with jobs, they are good and bad eggs.

GraceDefined
 
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We don't have the guns that US has you need to change your gun laws.
If we Americans didn't have Guns and the 2nd Amendment you would be speaking Japanese right now ... We will change our guns laws when we decide that we don't need them. Not going to happen
 
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Mitspa

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Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the US and probably the world and they have gun violence daily. So your political views on guns don't hold any merit. Maybe you should keep your views about America to yourself. And when was the last time NZ had any real influence in the world? Probably never.
Don't try to use facts with these people ...all they know is what they are told to believe.
 
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LiJo

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My friend Kirk lost a brother in Christ....Matthew Gerald, one of the officer killed today. My heart goes out to Matthew's family.
 
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My friend Kirk lost a brother in Christ....Matthew Gerald, one of the officer killed today. My heart goes out to Matthew's family.
May God comfort everyone during these times
 

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amen and amen. praying God's comfort on all those affected by this is any way.
 
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That would be a video I would like to see. Can you post it? The only video I've seen didn't show anything like that.

So, please post it.
Hi, I forgot this thread, but as you see, HS posted it
I find it VERY interesting you haven't seen it. Maybe the US media don't want you to know?
 

HS

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If we Americans didn't have Guns and the 2nd Amendment you would be speaking Japanese right now ... We will change our guns laws when we decide that we don't need them. Not going to happen
So wrong mate. The army and police etc should have the strongest guns made but not the public.