MASSIVE protest action building against the COVID pass

[ZNP]

Even if I don't need the vaccine I should do it for the Good of Society, right?

The uneducated might erroneously think that by getting vaccinated they are somehow doing something good for society. Nothing could be further from the truth. The vaccine is leaky. This means that on the one hand it is effective against the initial strain, but on the other hand the virus will mutate rapidly to strains the vaccine is not effective against. If only 5% of the population, those most at risk, get the vaccine then you are not favoring these strains that the vaccine does not protect against. But if 70% are vaccinated then you are and the vaccine will no longer help anyone.

But at least my immune system will be stronger, right?

No, it will be weaker. The mRNA vaccine instructs your body to make antibodies specific to the spike protein in the Covid virus. These antibodies are useless against other pathogens. Think of this as the Magino line for France. A heavily armored wall between France and Germany. Excellent for repelling a head on attack from Germany, but useless if Germany decides to drive around the wall through Belgium. You are better off with not specific antibodies which your body was making before you got the vaccine which told them to stop and make these instead.

 

[Justified]

There are of course a few "anti vaxers" that are wrong on some things but most are not. I have been on this site and many other sites and see the same patterns with most pro vaxers. Some or most of these people are paid propagandist and spout many other liberal talking points. But the one thing that is becoming clearer as time goes by is that anybody who thinks the jab is going to protect them is under a delusion.
I personally don't get how a professed Christian can't see what's really going on. I get that those without Jesus in their life might not see what's happening, and I will admit that most times I can't see what God is doing in my life, but I have no difficulty seeing what Satan and his minions are doing.
For the most part this covid thing is a ruse to steal an election and to put as many people in bondage as possible. I'm not sure if the jab is necessarily designed to kill or mame people, but nevertheless it has and continues to do so.

Have you stopped to see how arrogant you sound. You have repeatedly made disparaging comments toward any and all that do not think as you do. As many have said on here if you do not want to get the vax shot then don't but to keep trying to justify your views with FB or Utube info really will not sway any thinking person.

 

[Justified]

When 99.5% of all people are now surviving, and when people in certain demographics are surviving at 99.95% you are right, it is still "let everyone contract the disease and recover or die". But in reality, unless you are 5% of the population that is high risk, chances are very, very good that you will recover. If you are worried you can get vaccinated but that also carries a small risk of harm, and you will need to get a second shot and then a booster shot all within the first six months. Every shot carries risks.

On the other hand you can boost your immune response to Covid by making sure you have plenty of vitamin D, vitamin C, Zinc and HCQ. You can also practice social distancing which should help make sure that if you do get infected you will be part of the 80% who never have any symptoms.

IF you do get sick Ivermectin has proven to be very effective and if you do wind up being very sick oxygen is a very effective treatment.

Yup taking HCQ sounds like a good idea. Well maybe not

In a large randomized controlled platform trial of hospitalized patients in the United Kingdom (RECOVERY), hydroxychloroquine did not decrease 28-day mortality when compared to the usual standard of care. Patients who were randomized to receive hydroxychloroquine had a longer median hospital stay than those who received the standard of care. In addition, among patients who were not on invasive mechanical ventilation at the time of randomization, those who received hydroxychloroquine were more likely to subsequently require intubation or die during hospitalization than those who received the standard of care.

 

[GaryA]

But at least my immune system will be stronger, right?

No, it will be weaker.

Exactly.

And this is why natural immunity is the best option - you cannot do better than to trust the natural immunity [system] that God put in your body.

 

[GaryA]

And this is why natural immunity is the best option - you cannot do better than to trust the natural immunity [system] that God put in your body.

This is a general statement that is true for 99.99% of all people - don't give me any 'crap' over "exceptions" - anyone who actually follows God's 'recipe' for good health is already 90% to having it.

I realize that there are many things in this world we cannot control as individuals - which put us in the "harms way" of a myriad of toxins.

But - if you fill your body with unhealthy junk every day, you are not an exception - you are not following God's recipe for good health.

Please understand the difference.

I said 'best option' - not 'guarantee'.

 

[Rockson]

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I have a driver's license and a medicare card. I also have a passport. I can't go overseas without it. My license demonstrates that I passed a test (not that I can really drive) and I must have it on me when I drive. My medicare card enables me to gain subsidised or free treatment.

I believe in freedom of choice and I also believe in personal responsibility. If an unlicensed driver smashes into my car, I'm not going to be too happy. Why should my safety be compromised by an individual unwilling to obtain a license to drive? At the very least they have to know the road rules to get a license. I don't see a lot of difference.

I read your whole post and you make some good points. We have never had absolute freedom to do what we want e.g. all the things you've said above. There is a difference though. It's one thing to let's call it be forced to have a drivers license or health card or many other things. We can't just claim in life to have no restrictions or not having to show compliance to anything and then say that's really what freedom is about. That's nonsensical the world CAN'T function that way. With vaccines though you asking people to inject something into their blood stream something they don't feel all together at peace as to whether it's healthy for them. So I think there is a difference.

 

[Handyman62]

I personally don't know why some Christians are so gullible and so prone to believe lies. COVID is the problem. The solution is either to have open slather and let everyone contract the disease and recover or die, or vaccination. I prefer the latter course of action. I've had the first jab. Side effects were minimal and not as bad as I imagined they would be.

I neither encourage or discourage people from getting the jab. What does bug me is the incredulous attitude to vaccination some people have. Any unbiased research will give you the truth. When you refuse to love the truth, you have a problem. God will cause you to believe a lie. There is way too much of that happening. That sets people up to accept more and more lies until they are completely deceived.

It's so sad you along with so many others can't see Satan's finger prints all over the covid/jab bologna. But hey those of us who see right through you and him will continue to speak the truth, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

[ZNP]

Yup taking HCQ sounds like a good idea. Well maybe not

In a large randomized controlled platform trial of hospitalized patients in the United Kingdom (RECOVERY), hydroxychloroquine did not decrease 28-day mortality when compared to the usual standard of care. Patients who were randomized to receive hydroxychloroquine had a longer median hospital stay than those who received the standard of care. In addition, among patients who were not on invasive mechanical ventilation at the time of randomization, those who received hydroxychloroquine were more likely to subsequently require intubation or die during hospitalization than those who received the standard of care.

This study has absolutely nothing to do with what I said about taking it as a prophylactic.

 

[Handyman62]

Have you stopped to see how arrogant you sound. You have repeatedly made disparaging comments toward any and all that do not think as you do. As many have said on here if you do not want to get the vax shot then don't but to keep trying to justify your views with FB or Utube info really will not sway any thinking person.

I'm sorry if the truth hurts your feelings. But my information comes from God's word & the Holy spirit. The Bible gives great insight into how Satan operates and of the end times and I apply all of that to whats going on in the world right now. The path is wide but the gate is narrow so if you are not seeing whats going on you may not be listening Gods words and you may not make it through that gate so hurting someones feeling is not the important issue, Salvation is.
I suggest you open your heart and mind and pray for discernment because you are missing the obvious.

 

[ZNP]

Why are people making all this fuss about vaccine passports, I'm reading the news from many different countries and the government officials are saying very clearly that there are no plans to have vaccine passports. Let me post them...hmmm, OK forget it these articles are from 2020.

 

[mailmandan]

Socialism has been a theme present in the vernacular of our Congress for years.
Bernie Sanders is very open Socialist, and unapologetic fraud in that regard at a personal level.
He's all for a Socialist system for the workers, while personally he is a strong Capitalist.
The open robbery of our American Democratic process November 2020, sheds light on how such a person could be a career politician.

Now, thanks to the Plandemic for more than a year now, Fascism is slowly creeping in.
Socialism crept in behind the stimulus checks, and the authoritarianism that showed up at the start of the Plandemic from state to state, is promising to give way to full on Fascism.

Now in the midst of all this, censoring our free speech and a concerted effort to erase "White" American history has also been underway. A resurgence of the Fascist vehicle now labeled, Cancel Culture.

CC predated by other names in history. ISIS, Nazism, Communism, Maoism.

Terrorist racist thug groups given license when the rest of us were to follow the Covid rules. Mask-up, stay 6ft. apart.
But terrorist thug groups were entitled to violate those rules the rest of us were sometimes prosecuted for breaking.
Terrorist Privilege.

That an illegal vaccine passport is now part of America's conversation is no surprise.
We'll stand up and complain but we won't stand up and fight.

When we're too afraid to fight for our future we shouldn't be afraid to accept the yoke that results.

Besides, for the strict Bible believing factions in America, it's all part of God's plan. Because all leaders are put in place by the will of God to command over his sheep.


"Obey the Emperor."

Top Cop Kerik: Socialism Bigger Threat Now Than Terrorism

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/n...=DM256356_09092021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502wsojhc

 

[ZNP]

Top Cop Kerik: Socialism Bigger Threat Now Than Terrorism

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/n...=DM256356_09092021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502wsojhc

I'm getting confused -- Is the biggest threat COVID, or is it Terrorists, or is it White Supremacists, or is it the MAGA movement, or is it the Taliban, or is it Socialism? Are we saying that AOC and Bernie Sanders are the biggest threat?

 

[mailmandan]

I'm getting confused -- Is the biggest threat COVID, or is it Terrorists, or is it White Supremacists, or is it the MAGA movement, or is it the Taliban, or is it Socialism? Are we saying that AOC and Bernie Sanders are the biggest threat?

Depends on which media outlet you heard it from.

 

[rayzor]

https://rumble.com/vm2zi1-natural-immunity-is-20x-more-effective-than-the-vaccine.html

Natural immunity is 20x more effective than the vaccine.

In my day that's how they made a vax.Put a small portion in the body.So the immune system could react against it.

 

[Icedaisey]

It's so sad you along with so many others can't see Satan's finger prints all over the covid/jab bologna. But hey those of us who see right through you and him will continue to speak the truth, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

When a thief sitting in the highest office of power on earth, while suffering dementia, reads the script his handlers wrote for him and still stumbles, while telling gullible viewers the unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated, and that doesn't reach people as to the falsity that's been promoted about the effectiveness of this vaccine, nothing will.

The vaccinated alleged majority of Americans are at risk from the minority of free thinking, pro-choice (choose to or not to) persons who refuse the vaccine?

When the propaganda reiterates the vaccine will keep people safe from infection by the Covid-19 virus?

With no mention of the numbers of dead due to having gotten the vaccine?

Unvaccinated people are a threat to the vaccinated.
Biden said, this is the unvaccinated's pandemic.

If the vaccine works, the unvaccinated are a threat to themselves. Not to those who got the shot because they bought into the propaganda that said it would keep them safe.

Now, they're not?

 

[Icedaisey]

Even if I don't need the vaccine I should do it for the Good of Society, right?

The uneducated might erroneously think that by getting vaccinated they are somehow doing something good for society. Nothing could be further from the truth. The vaccine is leaky. This means that on the one hand it is effective against the initial strain, but on the other hand the virus will mutate rapidly to strains the vaccine is not effective against. If only 5% of the population, those most at risk, get the vaccine then you are not favoring these strains that the vaccine does not protect against. But if 70% are vaccinated then you are and the vaccine will no longer help anyone.

But at least my immune system will be stronger, right?

No, it will be weaker. The mRNA vaccine instructs your body to make antibodies specific to the spike protein in the Covid virus. These antibodies are useless against other pathogens. Think of this as the Magino line for France. A heavily armored wall between France and Germany. Excellent for repelling a head on attack from Germany, but useless if Germany decides to drive around the wall through Belgium. You are better off with not specific antibodies which your body was making before you got the vaccine which told them to stop and make these instead.

Oh, but that spiel about compliance, get the vaccine for the sake of everyone, was in Biden's earlier speech today.

 

[Icedaisey]

I'm getting confused -- Is the biggest threat COVID, or is it Terrorists, or is it White Supremacists, or is it the MAGA movement, or is it the Taliban, or is it Socialism? Are we saying that AOC and Bernie Sanders are the biggest threat?

Hey now, at least give AOC the credit she deserves for her personal responsibility by example in giving blond jokes a rest.

 

[Icedaisey]

Has anyone found the archived footage of the federal employee Joe Biden, getting the Covid-19 vaccination?

 

[Handyman62]

When a thief sitting in the highest office of power on earth, while suffering dementia, reads the script his handlers wrote for him and still stumbles, while telling gullible viewers the unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated, and that doesn't reach people as to the falsity that's been promoted about the effectiveness of this vaccine, nothing will.

The vaccinated alleged majority of Americans are at risk from the minority of free thinking, pro-choice (choose to or not to) persons who refuse the vaccine?

When the propaganda reiterates the vaccine will keep people safe from infection by the Covid-19 virus?

With no mention of the numbers of dead due to having gotten the vaccine?

Unvaccinated people are a threat to the vaccinated.
Biden said, this is the unvaccinated's pandemic.

If the vaccine works, the unvaccinated are a threat to themselves. Not to those who got the shot because they bought into the propaganda that said it would keep them safe.

Now, they're not?

All the pro vaxers have to do is look at who are the major promoters of the jab, starting at the top:

The commander & thief, the demoncrat party, the rino party which includes almost all the republicans, the lame stream press, fake check sites, big pharma and corporate owned social media. And the of course a myriad government bought & paid for pseudo scientist or other so called experts just to name a few.

Lets not forget for the most part doctors long ago stopped being diagnosticians themselves and now relie on what ever big pharma tells them will treat whatever symptom a patient has. Why should a doctor spend hours trying to find out what's really going on with a patient when he can spend minutes writing a prescription to mask the sympton? So when big pharma tells them the jab stops covid doctors keep doing what they have been doing for years and prescribe it rather then researching other possible treatments.

It's one thing for non Christians to put there faith in government (man). It's another thing for a Christian to do so.

 

[gb9]

All the pro vaxers have to do is look at who are the major promoters of the jab, starting at the top:

The commander & thief, the demoncrat party, the rino party which includes almost all the republicans, the lame stream press, fake check sites, big pharma and corporate owned social media. And the of course a myriad government bought & paid for pseudo scientist or other so called experts just to name a few.

Lets not forget for the most part doctors long ago stopped being diagnosticians themselves and now relie on what ever big pharma tells them will treat whatever symptom a patient has. Why should a doctor spend hours trying to find out what's really going on with a patient when he can spend minutes writing a prescription to mask the sympton? So when big pharma tells them the jab stops covid doctors keep doing what they have been doing for years and prescribe it rather then researching other possible treatments.

It's one thing for non Christians to put there faith in government (man). It's another thing for a Christian to do so.

i left a doctor and went to a new one because of this very thing. just wanted to pill me up, and would barley discuss anything other than meds, meds, meds.

my new doc is better. not good. but better.