1.) Iraq didn't attack the US on 9/11. He invaded the wrong country.
2.) You say Bush's job was to protect the US: By destabilizing the middle east, terrorist organizations such as Al Qaeda and ISIS arose by the vacuum Bush created. The world is not safer with ISIS. The US should have learned it's lesson about not being in the business of overtaking dictators. We speak so often of "the lesser of two evils" in this presidential election, but it applies here too. Another example is Hillary Clinton failing as Secretary of State by wanting Muammar Gaddafi's head and attacking Libya... We can rationalize it by saying Saddam and Gaddafi are bad men... but in the bigger picture, this was anything but "the right call" as you indicated.
The majority of Republicans, including Trump, agree this was definitely NOT the right call. The only presidential candidate that was against the invasion from day one is none other than Bernie Sanders.
I'm a history junkie. The deeper into the weeds, the better. Peacenik is quite fuzzy when it comes to history and the facts. I'll keep discussing these topics as long as people want to.
I can't see how Peacenik doesn't understand the reason Clinton was welcomed in Rwanda years following the genocide. The killers wished to thank him for allowing them to murder 800,000 members of a different tribe, without sending a small number of forces to save a single person. It's always the isolationists like peacenik who love to ignore the slaughter of innocents around the world, saying it is none of our business.
Germany didn't attack the U.S. on December 7th, 1941. We declared war on the wrong country. We then had to fight on two fronts.
See my point? You are not thinking like a military strategists. Or maybe you need to think more like a doctor treating a cancer that is spread around different countries. Saddam was destabilizing the Middle East. He was rewarding terrorists who attacked Israel and he had gassed his own people and he was torturing his own people. He was seeking help to build a WMD program. He had the potential to become a far greater threat than the guys living in caves in Afghanistan. It was the best strategy to send coalition forces to both locations. The majority of republicans still think it was the right move. What we learned is that we should have secured the borders after the country fell and kept out Iranian insurgents that brought in IED's.
50 years ago, there were 100 less democracies in the world. Democracy and giving people freedom, is the way to make the world safer. You do that by pushing back on violent dictators who feel it is their destiny to bring about the end of the world. Iraq was stabilizing until Obama pulled out our forces. The collapse of Syria was what created ISIS and they migrated to Iraq to create their caliphate. Obama allowed Assad to destroy his own people and gas them. Obama allowed the Russians to take charge. He allowed ISIS to grow from a few dozen to over 30,000 fighters. He was given the intelligence and he called them the JV team. He created the current situation. President Bush would have crushed ISIS as they started to grow and he would have removed Assad. Any President other than Obama and his weak secretary of state, would have made sure Russia was punished for invading the Ukraine.
The world is not safe. The world will not become safe until Jesus returns. It will become less and less safe. If you are Israel, you know this and look to the Word of God to plan your defense. People who claim to know God and read the Bible, would be fools to think we will make the world safe. The world is headed for Armageddon.
I may not like Hillary Clinton, at all, but she and her husband will send troops to fight almost as often as a republican would. President Clinton accomplished something historic when he defeated Milosevic using only air assets. Now he did promise to have all ground troops out of Serbia in one year and they were still there five years later, but that is the nature of stabilizing a region where races and nationalities want to murder each other. I will give Clinton a pass for wanting Gaddafi removed (or murdered). That was not a mistake. Reagan should have killed him years ago. It always comes down to who replaces the bad dictator.
Neither you nor peacenik can make a strong case against President Bush. All you do is Monday morning quarterback. I think it has been proven conclusively that even if you bake them a cake and promise to build them schools and hospitals, Islamic extremist's will still want to cut your head off. The first act of President Obama was to visit Egypt and apologize to them and embrace their leader, who they would later put in jail. Obama was that big a fool to think he could be nicer than past Presidents and that was going to win their hearts and minds. He has learned he was an idiot and he surrounded himself with even bigger idiots. Our foreign policy is unknown currently. He just wants to go golfing in Hawaii, at this point.
