Mitt Romney will be President - taking orders from Bibi

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edward99

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I think I've about had it up to here (places hand six inches above head) with all the talk here about the Jews. how they no longer matter, how Christians are the new Jews and the old remnant are no longer necessary, how Israel does not fulfill any kind of Bible prophecy, yadda yadda yadda, and then these same people wonder why others call them anti-Semetic.
I've had it up to here with this kind of rhetoric.

What's all that stuff above?

Maybe you just can't read what it says systemdown: Or maybe it's you who is Anti-Christian.?

More likely you believe your own (erroneous) version of a future millennium.

Galatians 3:29
And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.

Romans 9:8
In other words, it is not the natural children who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring.

Ephesians 3:6
This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.

This kind of talk here is just disgraceful. The last bastion of a real denier.

It should be obvious, therefore, that the people who think the Jews are superfluous, who are not needed, who are not necessary, who don't think Israel is at all necessary to God's plans - these people also don't want the Jews to exist.
 

systemdown101

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I've had it up to here with this kind of rhetoric.

What's all that stuff above?
If the (physical) Jews no longer matter, why are they still here?

Amillenialists and the like never seem to be able to answer that one.
 

Nautilus

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If the (physical) Jews no longer matter, why are they still here?

Amillenialists and the like never seem to be able to answer that one.

Uh because Genocide is bad regardless? That wasn't a very tough question. They are still people.
 
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Well, they are the oldest continuous peoples with the oldest language still in use alongside various East Asian people groups.

Nautilus brings up a good point.

Does survival equal blessedness?

How many people groups and cultures that have existed at the same time as the Jews met their end either by loss of cultural identity or out and out extermination?

Are the Jews of today similar to the Jews of yore?

That said the "genocide is bad" argument doesn't necessarily fly either. Eliminating a people group can also happen via assimilation or simply being ethnically heterogeneous. That and you could plausibly eliminate a people group via extermination.
 
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SantoSubito

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That said the "genocide is bad" argument doesn't necessarily fly either. Eliminating a people group can also happen via assimilation or simply being ethnically heterogeneous. That and you could plausibly eliminate a people group via extermination.
Tis' true. Most Native Americans have completely lost their cultural identity and language through a process of forced and willing assimilation. Mesoamericans have also lost their culture (not entirely since some of their traditions that are compatible with Catholicism were absorbed into it), but for the most part have completely lost their languages. This would also hold true for various Middle Eastern peoples who lost their culture and language as a result of Islam.

I will say this though, Hebrew effectively died and was replaced with Aramaic, Arabic, Yiddish, etc as the spoken language of pretty much all Jews and was only "revived" by Israeli schools teaching their students Hebrew at a young age (usually pre-school) and phasing it in as the national language. It would be like if we only taught school in Latin and slowly made it the national language so that in a generation or two the only spoken language in most homes would be Latin.
 

Tommy379

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Wrong! Romney never became anything.