My opinion as to why the UK (and other countries) are being locked down against the interests of the citizens

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I'm not sure if it would resonate with you. Do you acknowledge that fundamentalist Islamists are invading the West and seeking to wage against Western governments the Three Stages of Jihad - Stealth Jihad when their numbers are few, Defensive Jihad when their numbers are many, and finally Offensive Jihad when they finally conquer the nation and subjugate the "heretics"?
Yes.
 

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here is reason for lockdowns in my home town....as covid is in the community, health officials who tested it traced it back to a school cluster. The school closed but they had to announce a lockdown for 3 days to get everyone connected with the case tested. During that time ppl could be infecting others if they didnt know cos covid doesnt always have obvious symptoms.

When testing and not knowing the result. the person getting tested should not go anywhere in case they spread it without knowing. i.e isolate at home for 12 days.

a lot of people dont seem to know that they must do this. This is to contain the virus. If they break the rules they risk spreading to MANY people.

unfortunately either this wasnt communicated or they misundertsood and then went out and socialised. Which means after the three days people were out in the community who could have had covid and spread it further.

nor the tests have come back positive it means that those people that came into contact with the positive case all need to get tested to, They could potentially have covid.

what a nightmare. Covid is not fun to go through, Also breaking quarantine rules puts people at risk. Not everyone can self isolate but when its in the community you cant order people to unless everyone else does it too.

Its easier to test new arrival from the border and keep them quarantined but if out in the community its more difficult, Hence the lockdowns.
 

Lanolin

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also being a public school (not a boarding school) families that are connected with students are all at risk. They dont all go to the same school, some may be primary, some intermediate etc.

So thats why a lockdown for the city was ordered, because people dont just go to school and back home, they go to other places, meet their friends, parents go to other workplaces etc.

trust me nobody LIKES the lockdowns that much. But its better than lots of people being sick and dying.
 

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trust me nobody LIKES the lockdowns that much. But its better than lots of people being sick and dying.
How come the world simply ignored the annual flu seasons, and there were absolutely no lockdowns? This is simply another strain of flu, which has now become a bioweapon. Also THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that any of the restrictive measures have actually worked.
 

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trust me nobody LIKES the lockdowns that much. But its better than lots of people being sick and dying.
I would like to think that "nobody LIKES" being lied to and made to do things that are really not necessary - but - I could be wrong - I guess the absolute majority of the populations of the world really don't mind it that much...?
 
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I would like to think that "nobody LIKES" being lied to and made to do things that are really not necessary - but - I could be wrong - I guess the absolute majority of the populations of the world really don't mind it that much...?
The propaganda machine gets so much more effective with each passing generation that it get harder and harder to convince people of two unfailing truths: 1) that the media and government routinely lies to us, and 2) that whenever the two parties are united in anything, it is guaranteed that whatever unites them spells disaster for the people.
 

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I would like to think that "nobody LIKES" being lied to and made to do things that are really not necessary - but - I could be wrong - I guess the absolute majority of the populations of the world really don't mind it that much...?
its not a lie there actually is a virus
I guess you dont know anybody whos died from it then or caught it and suffered. Oh well you can stay ignorant then till you get it.

Cant say you havent been warned.
 

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I think a lot of people dont really want to die, but a lot of people dont really care if other people die.
Its sad.

Just shows you how uncaring people are when people fall ill.
 

GaryA

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trust me nobody LIKES the lockdowns that much. But its better than lots of people being sick and dying.
I would like to think that "nobody LIKES" being lied to and made to do things that are really not necessary - but - I could be wrong - I guess the absolute majority of the populations of the world really don't mind it that much...?
its not a lie there actually is a virus
I guess you dont know anybody whos died from it then or caught it and suffered. Oh well you can stay ignorant then till you get it.

Cant say you havent been warned.
I was referring to the lockdowns - based on the statement in your post.

Even if the virus is real (I'll give you that much for the sake of conversation.), the 'pandemic' is a lie - just as fake as it can be - in terms of the extent of things that have been promulgated into existance.

Locking down the world instead of focusing on protecting those who might need "extra" care is utterly stupid.

For centuries and millenia, people have done whatever has been necessary to get through hard times - while everything else remained intact - so that, after the hard times went its course, everything returned to 'normal'.

Returning to a "new normal" (or, just never actually returning) - where you have lost FREEDOM and DIGNITY as a human being - is NEVER a correct / good / proper / right path to take.

Allowing yourself to be "frightened" into giving up the most precious and necessary things that make life worthwhile is utter stupidity.

Accepting EVIL for 'normal' ALWAYS destroys...

Cant say you havent been warned.
 

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I think a lot of people dont really want to die, but a lot of people dont really care if other people die.
Its sad.

Just shows you how uncaring people are when people fall ill.
This is the kind of talk that comes straight out of the propaganda machine mentioned earlier.

There is no need for you to display your narrow-minded attitude that makes direct-implication accusation toward others who know there is more to living life than answering fear with a complete-forfeit mentality - giving up on everything - ready to trade everything they hold dear for a false-hope of safety and security.

What is SAD is the people who want to throw the whole world into SLAVERY just because they are deathly afraid of something that they are [also] unwilling to investigate sufficiently well enough to discover that it is not something they need to be deathly afraid of.

Or - should I make these assumptions about you and/or others as you have done about those who differ in perception from you about life-and-death issues...???

People don't automatically "not care" just because they don't see everything exactly as you do.
 
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its not a lie there actually is a virus
I guess you dont know anybody whos died from it then or caught it and suffered. Oh well you can stay ignorant then till you get it.

Cant say you havent been warned.
The other day, NPR announced on their show the previous year there were like 400,000 cases of the seasonal flu, and this year "there were only 375...not 375,000, only 375". They then went on to interview some talking head who pushed the narrative that Covid is the cause of all deaths and no one is dying from seasonal flu, cancer, heart attack, stroke, etc., etc., etc.

Now I ask you, how brain dead does NPR think their Kookaid drinking, drug addled, low information, easily duped, snowflake liberal audience is to actually believe such nonsense? Because only a moron would fall for such blatant lying propaganda intended to convince people that Covid is such a severe threat that it requires stripped down civil and human rights along with the financial destruction of the middle and upper class, while boosting corporate profits into the stratosphere.
 

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I think a lot of people dont really want to die, but a lot of people dont really care if other people die.
Its sad.

Just shows you how uncaring people are when people fall ill.
This is really a sick, warped way of thinking.

Who are you to say people don’t care if others die ?
 
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I think a lot of people dont really want to die, but a lot of people dont really care if other people die.
Its sad.

Just shows you how uncaring people are when people fall ill.
Agreed.
Too bad people don’t read the Bible with open eyes because Jesus Himself said in the last days the “(agape) of many shall wax cold” , and if that’s the case for the saints (sinners don’t partake in agape), how much more will sinners in the last days manifest cruelty and indifference toward believers, right or wrong?
 

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This is really a sick, warped way of thinking.

Who are you to say people don’t care if others die ?
becuase they show that they dont by saying so and caring about money more than people.
 

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well am going back to work and school today after 7 days lockdown, no new community case hurrah though still taking precautions...

The poor families that did catch it, of the three that had it two had broken the rules. Im glad it was contained though and didnt spread throughout the whole school.

It would just be awful if it did in mine. Ive already had to deal with a death, my neighbours died though not from covid. Two dads also died during the holidays at my school, from other things.

the last time covid got out, it got into one of the rest homes not far from me. some rest homes were badly hit, the first time, a lot of people that attended a wedding function also died. :-(

Lots of people do recover though, which is good, and we now have a vaccine, but it really was terrifying and scary when we didnt have the info and didnt know what to do.