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Who are we to judge. Every one of us has a past unless you were raised in a family that brought you through a church and raised you with love. News flash, that doesn't happen any more and most of us have mistakes. I am a married man with a child now but will respect anybody for their good deeds no matter who they are or what they have done. I was raised in a family of hatred where constant yelling was daily life. My mother would purposely put down animals that we owned when she was mad at me. I grew up an extremely angry person and still partly am. I made several mistakes in my lifetime and I am only 29 years old. I do not believe I have the right or anybody else to judge anybody because you do not know that person. You don't know where that person started and situations they went through so how are people upset that somebody is gay. I could care less if somebody is gay if they were nice enough to show me respect and be a friend. I doubt this will hit that many people because of how close minded most are today but when you judge him for being different then judge me because I was raised differently. Although I now hold an MBA because I didn't let others decide my fate.
This would not be an issue if Sams kept quiet.
This has absolutely and I mean absolutely nothing to do with any minority being persecuted.
It is a blatant attempt to evangelize homosexuality.
Coming out.
Kissing his bf.
Thats the problem and if christians say its wrong to push this agenda, theya re called hate mongers
This has absolutely and I mean absolutely nothing to do with any minority being persecuted.
It is a blatant attempt to evangelize homosexuality.
Coming out.
Kissing his bf.
Thats the problem and if christians say its wrong to push this agenda, theya re called hate mongers
Why should he keep quiet? Since when was silence the answer to anything? That truly is un-Christian, to ask the world to do things we don't approve of in the dark. We had that world once, homosexual boys being kicked out and living on the streets or killing themselves because no one loved them. Women and girls dying in unsterile environments because they feared that if someone knew they were pregnant, they would be disowned.
SonInMe, that world is gone, hopefully for good. I don't support the life Sams lives, but I don't ask him to live it in silence. I don't ask him to pick between football and a life of fear or a life of what might have been. We have enough suicides, hidden abortions, and lives of quiet desperation today. It's time we start being the people Christ told us to be. We must speak truth, acknowledge sin, but NEVER, AND I MEAN NEVER make people afraid to be honest, make people afraid of us. That is Satan's world, let it burn in the hellfire.
SonInMe, that world is gone, hopefully for good. I don't support the life Sams lives, but I don't ask him to live it in silence. I don't ask him to pick between football and a life of fear or a life of what might have been. We have enough suicides, hidden abortions, and lives of quiet desperation today. It's time we start being the people Christ told us to be. We must speak truth, acknowledge sin, but NEVER, AND I MEAN NEVER make people afraid to be honest, make people afraid of us. That is Satan's world, let it burn in the hellfire.
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It seems the author of this article has hardly any knowledge about the Roman Empire and its practices. I suspect that the only 'knowledge' and opinions gained about the Roman Empire has come from watching the soft pornographic TV series Spartacus.
The Author has also cherry picked a single verse, Romans 1:27 about HOmosexuality found in the letter to the Romans by Paul and taken it out of context to support an idea and agenda, an all too familiar thing we see today. I urge you to read the whole chapter in context, I have copied and pasted most of the chapter below.
Homosexuality was not acceptable in Roman society, there were even laws against homosexuality. Sure practice it behind closed doors, but if made public it could ruin a person, especially a senator. Yes Rome was like todays society, it had its sex industry and so on, but does that mean everyone was engaged in these practices?
We know prostitution exists today, we know that crack and whore houses exist, we know of gang warfare, but how many of us are involved with those or want to be, how many of us know people who are involved? It was no different to society in Roman times, the respectable people did not take part in these activites or want any part in it, or if they did they kept it secret. it was seedy and filthy and kept to the back streets out of sight out of mind.
Yes natsy things happened to Christians especially under the rules of the Nero and Domition, part of this depraved sexual concept we are shown about Roman society is based on the fierce attacks on these Emperors by historians, they were shocking the public with the sexual depravity and the vile depraved sadistic enjoyment they had for inflicting pain and suffering on others. It is no different from taking a couple of famous sex scandles of recent history and drawing a conclusions that everyone behaved like this.
Christians were considered part of a dangerous cult, simply because they believed in a single God, all beliefs which served a single God were demmed dangerous and needed to be wiped out, such as the cult of Mithras. Other emperors were more sympathetic towards Christians and let them get on with their lives without persecution.
The fall of the Roman Empire happened a very long time after the apostles died, the decline began in early 3rd Century. Then of course we see a change to a more Christian stance with Constantine.
I could turn this into a lecture, but think you get the idea, this article is uneducated and sensationalised propaganda.
[SUP]0 [/SUP]For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification], [SUP]21 [/SUP]Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and [SUP][c][/SUP]godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And by them the glory and majesty and excellence of the immortal God were exchanged for and represented by images, resembling mortal man and birds and beasts and reptiles.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their [own] hearts to sexual impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves [abandoning them to the degrading power of sin],
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Because they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed forever! Amen (so be it).
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For this reason God gave them over and abandoned them to vile affections and degrading passions. For their women exchanged their natural function for an unnatural and abnormal one,
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And the men also turned from natural relations with women and were set ablaze (burning out, consumed) with lust for one another—men committing shameful acts with men and suffering in their own [SUP][d][/SUP]bodies and personalities the inevitable consequences and penalty of their wrong-doing and going astray, which was [their] fitting retribution.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And so, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or approve of Him or consider Him worth the knowing, God gave them over to a base and condemned mind to do things not proper or decent but loathsome,
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Until they were filled (permeated and saturated) with every kind of unrighteousness, iniquity, grasping and covetous greed, and malice. [They were] full of envy and jealousy, murder, strife, deceit and treachery, ill will and cruel ways. [They were] secret backbiters and gossipers,
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Slanderers, hateful to and hating God, full of insolence, arrogance, [and] boasting; inventors of new forms of evil, disobedient and undutiful to parents.
[SUP]31 [/SUP][They were] without understanding, conscienceless and faithless, heartless and loveless [and] merciless.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Though they are fully aware of God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them themselves but approve and applaud others who practice them.
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Here is a thought Romans 14:16 says Let not then your good be evil spoken of, so I am safe to assume that I can't let evil be spoken good of if I am keeping the context of that scripture. I am also reminded of 1 Thessalonians 5:22 - Abstain from all appearance of evil. Now is this the appearance of evil? Is this what God approves of are we to accept it because he wants to parade his truth? His truth is still a lie! His relationship is a lie. He walks in open rebellion an willful ignorance and disobedience. oops he would have to believe in God and call him Lord to be disobedient to him then wouldn't he? Many believers are so soft and willing to accept anything thrown our way when it comes to this agenda and need to see it for what it is!!!
1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. Homosexual activity can't be done to the Glory of God!!!
1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. Homosexual activity can't be done to the Glory of God!!!
Your point? I never said we shouldn't acknowledge sin. I said we must be approachable. Also, Jesus ate with the filth of society. His Apostles are in the same place and from the same plates as gentiles. These are the appearances of sin. You're just baiting for an argument.
Do not force us back into an age where homosexuals were burnt at the stake, btw that's where the word f word for homosexuals came from. If man wishes to flaunt his sin, what is that to you? Call out the sin, but check your discrimination.
Do not force us back into an age where homosexuals were burnt at the stake, btw that's where the word f word for homosexuals came from. If man wishes to flaunt his sin, what is that to you? Call out the sin, but check your discrimination.
This was not about a man doing what he thought was right.
This was 100% agenda driven, well thought out, planned attempt to normalize a destructive behavior.
We are called to love. Its is love to counter poor ideologies, no matter if that is in the church or out and I can tell you a major reason why homosexuality has taken such a firm root in our culture...
christians with that attitude you have ThomistColin.
Did I suggest in any form we should not love homosexuals? No, all I did was stand up against this agenda driven fake hero worship. In fact I would say not to say anything about this would not be love. To not to expose the hidden agenda here would not be love.
Let me put this another way...do you think Sams was the first homosexual ever to play in the NFL? Nope but he made himself a hero, and probably a good living by being this Rosa Parks of the homosexual agenda, thats for sure. Without his coming out, he probably would not have been drafted at all...
and that was what this was all about.
This was 100% agenda driven, well thought out, planned attempt to normalize a destructive behavior.
We are called to love. Its is love to counter poor ideologies, no matter if that is in the church or out and I can tell you a major reason why homosexuality has taken such a firm root in our culture...
christians with that attitude you have ThomistColin.
Did I suggest in any form we should not love homosexuals? No, all I did was stand up against this agenda driven fake hero worship. In fact I would say not to say anything about this would not be love. To not to expose the hidden agenda here would not be love.
Let me put this another way...do you think Sams was the first homosexual ever to play in the NFL? Nope but he made himself a hero, and probably a good living by being this Rosa Parks of the homosexual agenda, thats for sure. Without his coming out, he probably would not have been drafted at all...
and that was what this was all about.
Sorry Thomas, but your post is littered with massive ignorance. Apparently in an attempt to say that he got drafted on some sort of skill set instead of because he is an open homosexual.
Since JUST 2005 there have been well over 100 players who have recorded 11 sacks or more in a single season.
Single Season Leaders and Records for Sacks | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
I guess we could cut you some slack in regards you to you saying he had 11 sacks in his career vs. single season.
Sam had 18.5 sacks in his collegiate career. That ties him for 154th AND THAT IS SINCE ONLY 2005!!! Most of the players ahead of him either were not drafted at all or were cut before they played a single down.
Career Leaders and Records for Sacks | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
Check your heart, and see if YOU have an agenda in wanting an unrepentant, homosexual, who displayed to impressionable kids homosexual fondling and kissing.
Since JUST 2005 there have been well over 100 players who have recorded 11 sacks or more in a single season.
Single Season Leaders and Records for Sacks | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
I guess we could cut you some slack in regards you to you saying he had 11 sacks in his career vs. single season.
Sam had 18.5 sacks in his collegiate career. That ties him for 154th AND THAT IS SINCE ONLY 2005!!! Most of the players ahead of him either were not drafted at all or were cut before they played a single down.
Career Leaders and Records for Sacks | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
Check your heart, and see if YOU have an agenda in wanting an unrepentant, homosexual, who displayed to impressionable kids homosexual fondling and kissing.
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I don't think America really understands the real numbers when it relates to gays. Homosexuals are around 10% while the bisexuals are the larger of the two groups (20-25%). If you put these two groups together, you have a solid representation of the gay community. And add the heterosexual supporters, it is a force to deal with politically, socially & economically.
Your numbers are WAY to high
Special Report: 3.4% of U.S. Adults Identify as LGBT
Inaugural Gallup findings based on more than 120,000 interviews
by Gary J. Gates and Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- The inaugural results of a new Gallup question -- posed to more than 120,000 U.S. adults thus far -- shows that 3.4% say "yes" when asked if they identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender.
These results are based on responses to the question, "Do you, personally, identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender?" included in 121,290 Gallup Daily tracking interviews conducted between June 1 and Sept. 30, 2012. This is the largest single study of the distribution of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) population in the U.S. on record. By comparison, the General Social Survey, a project of NORC at the University of Chicago, asked a sexual orientation question in its 2008 and 2010 survey of about 2,000 adults in each year. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' National Survey of Family Growth asked a sexual orientation question of about 12,000 young adults aged 18 to 44 in 2002 and of more than 20,000 adults in its 2006-2010 survey. The 3.4% figure is similar to a 3.8% estimate made by one of the authors of this study (Gates), averaging a group of smaller U.S. surveys conducted from 2004 to 2008.
Special Report: 3.4% of U.S. Adults Identify as LGBT
Special Report: 3.4% of U.S. Adults Identify as LGBT
Inaugural Gallup findings based on more than 120,000 interviews
by Gary J. Gates and Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- The inaugural results of a new Gallup question -- posed to more than 120,000 U.S. adults thus far -- shows that 3.4% say "yes" when asked if they identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender.
Special Report: 3.4% of U.S. Adults Identify as LGBT
Tell me, should we segregate sports? Should my next door neighbor say where I can and cannot work? This is the United States, not Uganda. If you want a world free of homosexuality either go to Iran or Uganda, by the way, you might be killed in Iran. Let those around us live as they see fit, and at every turn proclaim the Gospel. That is our duty.
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I am so glad you posted this. I have read it time and time again. Anyone with
common sense would see something was wrong when he began giving his approval.
I have been getting the scripture running through my mind....
"And He gave them over to a reprobate mind."
I was watching a video w/ him when he was campaigning ( yes I know he still is),
in the beginning. And the crowd looked like Hitlers adoring people, only difference
they were chanting "Obama", "Obama", I have had dreams before he ran 2nd time,
and the crowd was chanting his name. Gives me chills.
Today I heard him say he was going to serve a third term.
"Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus ."
Your'e erecting strawmen here. I would LOVE a world free of all sin. Do you really think I believe this is attainable before Jesus' return? You postured that Sam was drafted by his talent, saying "He is a top All American football player. He has over 11 sacks to his college record, which is almost unheard of. He better get into the NFL on merit and not politics." I have proven to you that is a lie. It is clear you know very little about football, and desired, just like the media, the president, the NFL, and society at large, to push the agenda of EVERYONE ACCEPTING homosexual sin. I love homosexuals, drunkards, drug addicts, liars, thieves, etc.. But I will NEVER accept their sin. Where did I say that the Gospel shouldn't be preached to all INCLUDING homosexuals? Ask yourself why YOU don't have a problem with homosexuals caressing each other followed by kissing while impressionable children are watching?
You assume too much. I acknowledge the sin, but I refuse to allow any government the power to censor or control the lives of its citizens. If TV wishes to show sin as good, I won't watch it. But God help the day when we have allowed the government power to decide morality, which we have already done, and then they come for us. God allows man to live as it wishes, I am not going to play God with another's life. The road of censorship ends in the road of totalitarianism. If the NFL allows him to play, that is none of mine. If he plays poorly, he will be benched or removed.
You want to accuse me of desiring the corruption of mankind? Go ahead. Remember that tragedies always begin with censorship and evil minds. That censorship is now directed towards us, we CANNOT respond in kind.
You want to accuse me of desiring the corruption of mankind? Go ahead. Remember that tragedies always begin with censorship and evil minds. That censorship is now directed towards us, we CANNOT respond in kind.