Only Took One Day for Trump.........

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? Seriously? Praying for a Godly man/woman to lead our Nation equates to that? Praying to God equates to a "pipe dream?" Wow..........
Daniel 2:21-22
And He changes the times and the seasons;
He removes kings and raises up kings;
He gives wisdom to the wise
And knowledge to those who have understanding.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]He reveals deep and secret things;
He knows what is in the darkness,
And light dwells with Him.
 

p_rehbein

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Daniel 2:21-22
And He changes the times and the seasons;
He removes kings and raises up kings;
He gives wisdom to the wise
And knowledge to those who have understanding.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]He reveals deep and secret things;
He knows what is in the darkness,
And light dwells with Him.
Which has nothing to do with my comment you quoted............but, shoot, if it's Scripture you want, well then.......

Proverbs 11:2 - [When] pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly [is] wisdom.

Proverbs 16:5 - Every one [that is] proud in heart [is] an abomination to the LORD: [though] hand [join] in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

Proverbs 29:23 - A man's pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

Proverbs 16:18 - Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Galatians 6:3 - For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

Proverbs 27:2 - Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

Proverbs 26:12 - Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? [there is] more hope of a fool than of him.

James 4:6 - But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

Jeremiah 9:23 - Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise [man] glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty [man] glory in his might, let not the rich [man] glory in his riches:

Philippians 2:3 - [Let] nothing [be done] through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

1 John 2:16 - For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Romans 12:16 - [Be] of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
 

p_rehbein

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Or, maybe thissin?


[h=1]Galatians
3[/h]
1 .) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
 

p_rehbein

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or, I dunno, how about thissin?


Matthew 7:15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 .) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 .) Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 .) A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 .) Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 .) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 
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Don't worry, you will if you and others sit back, letting Hillary bring us four more years of this "change." (Practice your Farsi.)
I really don't know what to do If those are our only choices.Somone said that I can write a name In and vote for them,I don't know,but voting for Trump Is like let me give an example.

A grown up person A Is walking down the street and they see another grown up person B arguing with a child.

Grown up A might think,that child needs to learn some respect and then grown up A goes on,and then on the way back,Grown up A sees Grown up B still arguing with the child.At that point,Grown up A would start thinking ,the problem Isn't the child,because the child may not know better,but there must be something wrong with Grown up B because they are grown and should know better.

What I'm trying to say Is Trump supporters should know better.

Do you really think he(Trump) will build a wall and Mexico will pay for It?
 

p_rehbein

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Folks wanna support Trump, that's their choice, but they will err GREATLY trying to justify their support of Trump from the Word of God.
 
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Or, maybe thissin?


Galatians
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1 .) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

works has everything to do with God appointing a ruler:rolleyes:
 
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Folks wanna support Trump, that's their choice, but they will err GREATLY trying to justify their support of Trump from the Word of God.
You may be erring greatly according to this:
And He changes the times and the seasons;
He removes kings and raises up kings;
He gives wisdom to the wise
And knowledge to those who have understanding.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]He reveals deep and secret things;
He knows what is in the darkness,
And light dwells with Him.
 

p_rehbein

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Yall would be wise to study the life and times of King Saul...........

and, my Scriptures TRUMP yours......

:)
 

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? Seriously? Praying for a Godly man/woman to lead our Nation equates to that? Praying to God equates to a "pipe dream?" Wow..........
For you to get the leader you desire it will require revolution. You got the stomach for that? I had a thread awhile back where I asked for people to design a godly leader that they would want in the White House. They could put all the characteristics of what they would like to see in one man. No one participated. Seems lots of people would rather be against something than for something.
 

posthuman

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he is for AMERICA....
yeah trouble is that is a basically utterly meaningless statement.

it's just blind ultra-nationalism.

and the trouble with that? my citizenship is in heaven (Philippians 3:20).

in the country that is my true home, we provide food, shelter, healthcare and aid to the least among men, without demanding repayment.
we don't walk on the other side of the road when we see hurt, poor, dejected foreigners -- we pay out of our pocket for whatever it takes to make them well and secure, without pre-requisite.
the government of my King takes national responsibility for caring for its poor, and for the alien living with us. we all give of what we've been blessed with in order to feed, clothe and tend them.

since there are no American presidential candidates that are anti-abortion or anti-gay-agenda and since none of them believe in Christ, what do you think if i personally support and strongly encourage other believers to support the one candidate remaining whose personal values and political platform actually reflect selfless Christian conduct and character? the only one who doesn't serve mammon and who loves mercy, in the Biblical sense of the word, doing whatever is necessary to meet the needs of all those in need, without prejudice?

or am i "wrong" because that man doesn't have the "right" secular party label ?

no charlatans for me, thanks.
you guys appear insane to me.
:confused:
 

posthuman

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You may be erring greatly according to this:
And He changes the times and the seasons;
He removes kings and raises up kings;
He gives wisdom to the wise
And knowledge to those who have understanding.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]He reveals deep and secret things;
He knows what is in the darkness,
And light dwells with Him.
are you going to keep quoting that when Clinton is sworn in? because that's the direction the wind is blowing right now.
 

p_rehbein

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For you to get the leader you desire it will require revolution. You got the stomach for that? I had a thread awhile back where I asked for people to design a godly leader that they would want in the White House. They could put all the characteristics of what they would like to see in one man. No one participated. Seems lots of people would rather be against something than for something.
Again, you are imparting to man the power of God as if God is not capable of doing what He wills.

Didn't see the thread you mention...........sooooo :)

As for the last statement, is that not EXACTLY WHY so many people are voting for Trump? :)
 

p_rehbein

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You may be erring greatly according to this:
And He changes the times and the seasons;
He removes kings and raises up kings;
He gives wisdom to the wise
And knowledge to those who have understanding.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]He reveals deep and secret things;
He knows what is in the darkness,
And light dwells with Him.

Problem is...........this Scripture doesn't apply to the current situation, and speculative at best, UNLESS you can show that God has anointed Trump to be the next President. Whereas the Scriptures I posted are a warning to the Church as to what/who to watch out for and be wary of. Paul himself taught us that Light has no fellowship with darkness.
 

posthuman

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Which has nothing to do with my comment you quoted............but, shoot, if it's Scripture you want, well then.......

here's some more that i heard yesterday, and find to be rather poignant . .


Job 31

16 “If I have denied the desires of the poor
or let the eyes of the widow grow weary,
17 if I have kept my bread to myself,
not sharing it with the fatherless—
18 but from my youth I reared them as a father would,
and from my birth I guided the widow—
19 if I have seen anyone perishing for lack of clothing,
or the needy without garments,
20 and their hearts did not bless me
for warming them with the fleece from my sheep,
21 if I have raised my hand against the fatherless,
knowing that I had influence in court,
22 then let my arm fall from the shoulder,
let it be broken off at the joint.
23 For I dreaded destruction from God,
and for fear of his splendor I could not do such things.

24 “If I have put my trust in gold
or said to pure gold, ‘You are my security,’
25 if I have rejoiced over my great wealth,
the fortune my hands had gained,
26 if I have regarded the sun in its radiance
or the moon moving in splendor,
27 so that my heart was secretly enticed
and my hand offered them a kiss of homage,
28 then these also would be sins to be judged,
for I would have been unfaithful to God on high.

 
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posthuman

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Some things may not pan out. But it won't be because he didn't try. It will be because Congress tied his hands

but this isn't what has happened with our current president?

lol -- i'm not saying you in particular Willie, but some people express exactly this sentiment about their own darlings, but at the same time criticize Obama for things like the economy & job market not recovering 'quickly enough,' gitmo not being shut down, the growth of the debt, the health insurance markets not being as successful as they could be, etc. etc. -- things whose gears a hostile congress has openly and vigorously tossed whatever wrenches they can into.

if we're going to take into account how much opposition groups try to stop whatever good a president does when we consider whether he's been successful or not, don't you think we ought to be fair in that judgement?
i believe a great number of people in this country are very double-minded when it comes to that.
i hope you aren't -- i hope you're fair.
i hope we should all 'judge rightly' if we judge at all.


as Obama does, and just ignore them by writing Executive Orders, right and left, to get his way.



Obama has written some 50 or 60 less executive orders during his terms than G.W. Bush did.
Nixon wrote about 100 more. Reagan wrote about 150 more than Obama has.
Obama is 16th on the list by number of EO's written. there are 6 presidents who wrote more than 500 more EO's than Obama.
this rhetoric about him being the 'king of executive orders' is partisan propaganda nonsense -- FDR wrote almost 3,300 more than Obama has. not a typo - FDR actually wrote way beyond three thousand more executive orders than our current CIC. unless Obama starts writing about 13 executive orders per day from now till january 20, he's not going to catch up.
 
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Again, you are imparting to man the power of God as if God is not capable of doing what He wills.

Didn't see the thread you mention...........sooooo :)

As for the last statement, is that not EXACTLY WHY so many people are voting for Trump? :)
And, if we have a brain in our heads, we should know that to help elect Hillary by refusing to vote or by throwing away our vote on a "write-in" is suicide for the American way of life. Trump may not be who or what I really want (Ben Carson was my choice), but it is likely going to come down to only one of two choices.

Do you really prefer Hillary? (It seems like some stubborn Republican politicians do, and they are talking about voting Hillary in so that they can keep Washington just the way they have fashioned it to be........ a bed they enjoy lying in with their cohorts.
 
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but this isn't what has happened with our current president?

lol -- i'm not saying you in particular Willie, but some people express exactly this sentiment about their own darlings, but at the same time criticize Obama for things like the economy & job market not recovering 'quickly enough,' gitmo not being shut down, the growth of the debt, the health insurance markets not being as successful as they could be, etc. etc. -- things whose gears a hostile congress has openly and vigorously tossed whatever wrenches they can into.

if we're going to take into account how much opposition groups try to stop whatever good a president does when we consider whether he's been successful or not, don't you think we ought to be fair in that judgement?
i believe a great number of people in this country are very double-minded when it comes to that.
i hope you aren't -- i hope you're fair.
i hope we should all 'judge rightly' if we judge at all.





Obama has written some 50 or 60 less executive orders during his terms than G.W. Bush did.
Nixon wrote about 100 more. Reagan wrote about 150 more than Obama has.
Obama is 16th on the list by number of EO's written. there are 6 presidents who wrote more than 500 more EO's than Obama.
this rhetoric about him being the 'king of executive orders' is partisan propaganda nonsense -- FDR wrote almost 3,300 more than Obama has. not a typo - FDR actually wrote way beyond three thousand more executive orders than our current CIC. unless Obama starts writing about 13 executive orders per day from now till january 20, he's not going to catch up.
Did any of those presidents side with our enemies, and send ship-loads of money to support their terrorist activities? Please don't try to defend the likes of Obama by comparing him to presidents who actually tried to do good for America.