Orlando Shooting | Blasphemous Churches

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TheAristocat

TheAristocat

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Olivia_Rose said:
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⬆BLASPHEMY BLASPHEMY BLASPHEMY⬆ All across the U.S. Christians and Churches are coming together in prayer for the loss of the Orlando victims. -However- many of this prayer in blasphemous. Not only are Christians showing support for the LGBTQ, but Churches are now involving "the rainbow flag" INSIDE and OUTSIDE their church walls, while having service, to show their support and condolences. How can one show condolences while consolidating sin?
This is not about the lgbtq individuals. This is about terrorism. Against not only America but other parts of the world. The lgbtq community may have been a target in this scenario. So were the past individuals targeted. The Christians, the Subway station, the Paris attack. Does it really take an attack on the new "social norm" for people to start raising awareness? The lgbtq community was not and is not the only target of ISIS and ISIS influenced perpetrators.
It is COMPLETELY 100 PERCENT blasphemous to add an addition to the church, such as the "pride flag," in support of sin. COMPLETELY IMMORAL. TOTALLY MISLEADING. Any and every church which proclaims to follow the Lord, reads the Word of God, and involves themselves in such an act is a church of deceit, of lies, of ruin. And such a church will never be a true house of God. No matter how many "amen's" and "Hallelujah's" are sung. It is a house of Satan. A house of Sin. A house of Worldly lust.

Do not mishear me. As a Christian, it is a duty and a privilege to help my fellow brother's and sister's. If someone identifies as lgbtq, I will give them water if they are in thirst. Give them food if they hunger. Give them shelter from the storm. But I will NEVER support the sin in which they identify themselves. It is not my place to judge those of lgbtq choice who are not inside the Church. But those who proclaim to be Christian, coming into the church proclaiming that sin as just, will be judged righteously immediately through me by the Word of God.
The Lord Jesus came, and indeed cared for the weeping, the lost, and the broken hearted. But did He support or mention the act of sin in which they involved themselves to justify their weeping? Absolutely not.
He cared for them because they were a fellow soul; Child of God. He did not state "I lend a shoulder for my fellow homosexual brother." "I lend a hand to my fellow homosexual neighbor." -instead- "I lend myself to my fellow brother." "I lend myself to my fellow neighbor." Why? Because you are not lending a hand out to the sin, but a hand to the soul of God.
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You have a good point. We should offer what help and empathy we can as human beings that have our humanity in common. We do not have to do it through a special lens. This is why I applaud Chick-fil-A in its recent support for those who were affected in this shooting. They made their stance on homosexuality clear before and took flak for it from the gay community. Now they are making their stance on compassion clear by supporting those homosexuals (and heterosexuals) affected by the shooting.
 
Dude653

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Ultimatum77 said:
Agree, brother check out this video....

that Orlando crap as I suspected was a complete bs hoax......

it's a bit long but worth looking at to see the complete production that was the so called "shooting"....

[video=youtube;ytckrcWmrWo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytckrcWmrWo[/video]
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There is no way that they fake over 100 people being shot. This would mean getting the local police department, the local emergency rooms, the local morgues, the local Funeral Directors, the local newspapers and the entire Orlando gay community to lie. Any novice investigator could figure out if it's a hoax. The first thing they will do is go to the local hospital to start asking questions
 
Dude653

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I've been seeing these insane tin foil hat conspiracy theories on Facebook. This is beyond idiotic
 
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I don't believe it to be staged but I do believe that guru Rahm Emanuel's dictum is being followed...

"[FONT=&quot]You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." Rahm Emanuel[/FONT]
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Dude653

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I could see maybe convincing a nine-year-old that this is staged but no rational adult should believe this
 
Angela53510

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My thought is that although the shooting was real, it has been jumped on by the LGBTQ movement to promote their cause. I do agree we need to have compassion for those who are hurt, and for the families of those who died.

But neither can we let this become an opportunity to normalize and glorify homosexual behaviour in any form.

As for these conspiracy theories, they sure are starting within minutes of the shooting these days, aren't they? A conspiracy by Obama who wants gun control? And how would he convince a Republican Congress to limit arms control? To say nothing of how limited Obama's time in office is. Something like a little over 4 months left till he is not the de facto President any more. I suppose if he really was determined to limit weapons, he would have "staged" this massacre a little earlier in his term, so that he could force through legislation. Weren't the Democrats in power in Congress when he became president? That would have been the time to do gun control and push through legislation for the gay rights movement. Not sure if I remember correctly, as my following of American politics is iffy, unless it concerns the mess with Hilary and Trump going on right now. That, I have been following closely!
 
tanakh

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Just when I think threads cant get more insane ........They do
 
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I wonder how you would feel, ultimatum, if your friends / family were murdered and someone on the internet said: Oh, he just staged it.
 
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wwjd_kilden said:
I wonder how you would feel, ultimatum, if your friends / family were murdered and someone on the internet said: Oh, he just staged it.
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...and somebody would be saying it...certain kinds of minds are thriving on the internet...but they are better left alone...
 
Dude653

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Angela53510 said:
My thought is that although the shooting was real, it has been jumped on by the LGBTQ movement to promote their cause. I do agree we need to have compassion for those who are hurt, and for the families of those who died.

But neither can we let this become an opportunity to normalize and glorify homosexual behaviour in any form.

As for these conspiracy theories, they sure are starting within minutes of the shooting these days, aren't they? A conspiracy by Obama who wants gun control? And how would he convince a Republican Congress to limit arms control? To say nothing of how limited Obama's time in office is. Something like a little over 4 months left till he is not the de facto President any more. I suppose if he really was determined to limit weapons, he would have "staged" this massacre a little earlier in his term, so that he could force through legislation. Weren't the Democrats in power in Congress when he became president? That would have been the time to do gun control and push through legislation for the gay rights movement. Not sure if I remember correctly, as my following of American politics is iffy, unless it concerns the mess with Hilary and Trump going on right now. That, I have been following closely!
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As I previously stated, you would have to have the mind of a 9 year old to believe this was staged. Any novice investigator would be able to debunk this by simply speaking to the local hospital staff and interviewing the locals. As for gay rights, the Supreme Court has spoken on this so it is a moot point. I suppose right now they just want the right to live their lives and not be attacked and harassed by hateful religious extremists. I think it's time to add one more name to my ignore list
 
CS1

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Dude653 said:
As I previously stated, you would have to have the mind of a 9 year old to believe this was staged. Any novice investigator would be able to debunk this by simply speaking to the local hospital staff and interviewing the locals. As for gay rights, the Supreme Court has spoken on this so it is a moot point. I suppose right now they just want the right to live their lives and not be attacked and harassed by hateful religious extremists. I think it's time to add one more name to my ignore list
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to be insulting does't make the discussion very good. and just because the Supreme court has ruled doesn't make it a moot issue. it is an issue because the so-called religious extreme hold to a book that those believe God authored it and HE said it is sin. And in addition the law of the land which those are to abide know this law was not the will of the people as it was overturned in two election cycles by gay judges who did not have the integrity to recuse themselves. As far as living their lives and not be attacked blame the extreme radical islamic terrorist who are the only ones of this year who have killed gays and continue to do so.
 
Dude653

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CS1 said:
to be insulting does't make the discussion very good. and just because the Supreme court has ruled doesn't make it a moot issue. it is an issue because the so-called religious extreme hold to a book that those believe God authored it and HE said it is sin. And in addition the law of the land which those are to abide know this law was not the will of the people as it was overturned in two election cycles by gay judges who did not have the integrity to recuse themselves. As far as living their lives and not be attacked blame the extreme radical islamic terrorist who are the only ones of this year who have killed gays and continue to do so.
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Okay we can all agree that the Bible says that homosexuality is a sin. However there are those who do not follow the Bible and that is their constitutional right. There's a fine line between evangelism and harassment. Like those Westboro Baptist idiots. If I had the authority to do so they would be arrested under the Patriot Act for protesting military funerals... but that's another issue
 
Dude653

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So in other words you feel like the law should favor religion as long as it's your religion. One of the things I love about America is that people have the right to worship or not worship as they choose. If someone wants to worship Bugs Bunny or SpongeBob SquarePants then that is their constitutional right. Me and have died to give us this rights. If you tell me that you can't do something because it's against your religion then I'm cool with that. But when you try to tell me that I can't do something because it's against your religion then we have a problem. This is why Christianity is on the decline in America because it's more about hatred and bigotry than the love of Christ
 
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12 nuts in a little Baptist church (who say a few crazy things) ..represent American Christians to a liberal ...millions of blood-thirsty muslims( killing and raping and enslaving others) does not represent Islam to a liberal? Of course a liberal thinks being gay is a good thing..they have a mental disorder.
 
Dude653

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Also the names of the Dead have been released. So if even one of these people stepped up and says hey I'm still alive then just maybe I will consider these ridiculous theories. Out of all these people you would think at least one person would say..
He's not really dead, I just saw him at McDonald's yesterday
 
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Dude653 said:
So in other words you feel like the law should favor religion as long as it's your religion. One of the things I love about America is that people have the right to worship or not worship as they choose. If someone wants to worship Bugs Bunny or SpongeBob SquarePants then that is their constitutional right. Me and have died to give us this rights. If you tell me that you can't do something because it's against your religion then I'm cool with that. But when you try to tell me that I can't do something because it's against your religion then we have a problem. This is why Christianity is on the decline in America because it's more about hatred and bigotry than the love of Christ
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You sound like you don't even like being a Christian. What is the one true religion Dude? Does God tolerate other religions?
 
Dude653

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Not tolerating other religions?.. who does that sound like? Muslim terrorists Maybe? I'm quite aware of what the Bible says but as I have previously stated, there will always be those who do not follow the Bible and that is their constitutional right. So essentially what you're saying is you believe that only Christians should have rights in this country..tyranny much. If someone wants to worship SpongeBob SquarePants or Bugs Bunny, that's his constitutional right. Men have died to give us this rights...
This is the part where you say Christ died for us.... fundamentalists are so predictable
 
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Dude653 said:
Not tolerating other religions?.. who does that sound like? Muslim terrorists Maybe? I'm quite aware of what the Bible says but as I have previously stated, there will always be those who do not follow the Bible and that is their constitutional right. So essentially what you're saying is you believe that only Christians should have rights in this country..tyranny much. If someone wants to worship SpongeBob SquarePants or Bugs Bunny, that's his constitutional right. Men have died to give us this rights...
This is the part where you say Christ died for us.... fundamentalists are so predictable
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Ah, so basically you are ok with not trying to witness to the lost like Jesus commanded us to do? You are ok with just sitting back and as long as you are ok who cares about the rest of the world? Truth is Love and if you don't share truth to others then you don't love them. This is in the bible as well Dude.
 
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