Palestinians mark 65th anniversary of Nakba

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Drett

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Palestinians are marking the 65th anniversary of the Nakba, when hundreds of thousands of Arabs were forced out of their homes and into exile.


Sirens will be sounded for 65 seconds and demonstrations will take place in Ramallah, Nablus, Tulkarem, Qalqilya, Bethlehem and Jericho to mark the day.


Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled or were forced from their villages during the war that established Israel in 1948, an event they commemorate every year as their Nakba Day, Arabic for "catastrophe".

Palestinians mark 65th anniverary of Nakba - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
 
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To be fair though, when it comes to Israel.....there is no such thing as unbiased news......it's all either pro-israel or anti-israel.....I've never seen unbiased news regarding that conflict
 

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Palestinians are marking the 65th anniversary of the Nakba, when hundreds of thousands of Arabs were forced out of their homes and into exile.


Sirens will be sounded for 65 seconds and demonstrations will take place in Ramallah, Nablus, Tulkarem, Qalqilya, Bethlehem and Jericho to mark the day.


Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled or were forced from their villages during the war that established Israel in 1948, an event they commemorate every year as their Nakba Day, Arabic for "catastrophe".

Palestinians mark 65th anniverary of Nakba - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
why that's a myth, drett - not only did hundreds of thousands NOT get ethnically cleansed; palestinians don't even exist. they're a made up people.

the photos of the catastrophe don't exist either.

just tune in to Family Guy and forget it.
 

raf

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To be fair though, when it comes to Israel.....there is no such thing as unbiased news......it's all either pro-israel or anti-israel.....I've never seen unbiased news regarding that conflict
The pictures of arabs being forced into the sea by IDF doesnt seem biased to me.
 

raf

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why that's a myth, drett - not only did hundreds of thousands NOT get ethnically cleansed; palestinians don't even exist. they're a made up people.

the photos of the catastrophe don't exist either.

just tune in to Family Guy and forget it.
Who said they were ethnically cleansed I think youre making stuff up he clearly said they were just forced to move. Also the region of palestine has had arabs and jewish settlers for a long long time more arab settlers though they were just under different empires like mamlukes, ottomans, british but they always stayed mostly arab. When people say palestinian they just mean the people from that region not an actual race.
 
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The pictures of arabs being forced into the sea by IDF doesnt seem biased to me.
I could equally say the pictures of arabs beheading a Jewish journalist doesn't seem biased to me. There's plenty of pictures a person could easily get their hands on that would support either side. Ignoring whether a picture or video is included in a news report......I've never seen an unbiased article on Israel. In every case, the person writing the article was either obviously against Israel, or obviously for Israel.
 

zone

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Who said they were ethnically cleansed I think youre making stuff up he clearly said they were just forced to move. Also the region of palestine has had arabs and jewish settlers for a long long time more arab settlers though they were just under different empires like mamlukes, ottomans, british but they always stayed mostly arab. When people say palestinian they just mean the people from that region not an actual race.
raf, i was actually agreeing with drett (using irony to highlight the absurdity of claiming they were not ethnically cleansed).

they were most certainly ethnically cleansed.

if you control the recording of history; and frame and control the discussion, you can cover things up for a long time - but not forever.







In his latest work, renowned Israeli author and academic Pappe (A History of Modern Palestine) does not mince words, doing Jimmy Carter one better (or worse, depending on one's point of view) by accusing Israel of ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity beginning in the 1948 war for independence, and continuing through the present. Focusing primarily on Plan D (Dalet, in Hebrew), conceived on March 10, 1948, Pappe demonstrates how ethnic cleansing was not a circumstance of war, but rather a deliberate goal of combat for early Israeli military units led by David Ben-Gurion, whom Pappe labels the "architect of ethnic cleansing." The forced expulsion of 800,000 Palestinians between 1948-49, Pappe argues, was part of a long-standing Zionist plan to manufacture an ethnically pure Jewish state. Framing his argument with accepted international and UN definitions of ethnic cleansing, Pappe follows with an excruciatingly detailed account of Israeli military involvement in the demolition and depopulation of hundreds of villages, and the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Arab inhabitants.

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Who said they were ethnically cleansed I think youre making stuff up he clearly said they were just forced to move. Also the region of palestine has had arabs and jewish settlers for a long long time more arab settlers though they were just under different empires like mamlukes, ottomans, british but they always stayed mostly arab. When people say palestinian they just mean the people from that region not an actual race.
I have attached below an interview with Martin Levi van Creveld an Israeli military historian and theorist

Here is an extract

Interviewer: Do you think that the world will allow that kind of ethnic cleansing?


Creveld: That depends on who does it and how quickly it happens. We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force.

Interviewer: Wouldn't Israel then become a rogue state?


Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen, before Israel goes under.


"In Israel a scenario of doom is taking shape."

and the world is worried about Iran and their Nuclear power stations ?
 

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I could equally say the pictures of arabs beheading a Jewish journalist doesn't seem biased to me. There's plenty of pictures a person could easily get their hands on that would support either side. Ignoring whether a picture or video is included in a news report......I've never seen an unbiased article on Israel. In every case, the person writing the article was either obviously against Israel, or obviously for Israel.
We can go back and forward concerning incidences between the two. These are just symptoms of the problem. What is the problem ? The Palestinian people were uprooted from their homes and have been oppressed ever since. Make Israelis accountable for their actions would be the first of many step towards sorting this out.
 

raf

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raf, i was actually agreeing with drett (using irony to highlight the absurdity of claiming they were not ethnically cleansed).

they were most certainly ethnically cleansed.

if you control the recording of history; and frame and control the discussion, you can cover things up for a long time - but not forever.







In his latest work, renowned Israeli author and academic Pappe (A History of Modern Palestine) does not mince words, doing Jimmy Carter one better (or worse, depending on one's point of view) by accusing Israel of ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity beginning in the 1948 war for independence, and continuing through the present. Focusing primarily on Plan D (Dalet, in Hebrew), conceived on March 10, 1948, Pappe demonstrates how ethnic cleansing was not a circumstance of war, but rather a deliberate goal of combat for early Israeli military units led by David Ben-Gurion, whom Pappe labels the "architect of ethnic cleansing." The forced expulsion of 800,000 Palestinians between 1948-49, Pappe argues, was part of a long-standing Zionist plan to manufacture an ethnically pure Jewish state. Framing his argument with accepted international and UN definitions of ethnic cleansing, Pappe follows with an excruciatingly detailed account of Israeli military involvement in the demolition and depopulation of hundreds of villages, and the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Arab inhabitants.

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Sorry for assuming your response is so similar to so many thoughts on here I couldnt tell you were joking.
 

raf

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I could equally say the pictures of arabs beheading a Jewish journalist doesn't seem biased to me. There's plenty of pictures a person could easily get their hands on that would support either side. Ignoring whether a picture or video is included in a news report......I've never seen an unbiased article on Israel. In every case, the person writing the article was either obviously against Israel, or obviously for Israel.
Eh I see plenty of unbiased articles theres a lot of people who hate both including me im getting sick of the two people fighting eachother. If you want biased fox news is the prime source.
 

zone

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We can go back and forward concerning incidences between the two. These are just symptoms of the problem. What is the problem ? The Palestinian people were uprooted from their homes and have been oppressed ever since. Make Israelis accountable for their actions would be the first of many step towards sorting this out.
hi drett - the problem is both sides (and all people) need Jesus Christ The LORD.

there is no other name by which men may be saved.

no other. Jesus Christ is LORD.

without salvation, without the new birth, from above - it's all vanity and death.

(keeping in mind, xtian zionists do not represent Jesus Christ The Lord, drett...don't ever forget that).
love you
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oh gee... an argument about a muddy topic without any attempted unbiased works... I can definitely see how THIS will go somewhere
 

Drett

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On the subject of Israel and Palestine. It is very difficult to find unbiased reporting ... well what people would consider unbiased reporting.

As I started earlier an article in the Jewish Times revealed pride in the control the Jewish have in US media.

BBC now has a Jewish person Rod Natkiel as head of networks.

So we need to turn to smaller publications for information that larger media groups deem "not newsworthy" These smaller publications are of course accused of being biased the other way. So while people, have this mindset to discount any information on the plight of the Palestinians as being biased, the Palestinian suffering will continue unchecked.
 
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Eh I see plenty of unbiased articles theres a lot of people who hate both including me im getting sick of the two people fighting eachother. If you want biased fox news is the prime source.
lol, I agree with you on Fox news. Unbiased media in general is hard to come by. I've seen plenty of bad stuff on both sides of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and neither side is perfect....obviously......real news is a lot harder to come by on that particular situation though because there's so many political and religious interests involved.
 

zone

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Dimona

'Israel and the Bomb' : Documents : Dimona Revealed < click

israelis haven't had to worry about mooslims forcing them to convert or 'pushing them into the sea' or the ever-so-popular fake statement from Iran (wipe them off the map) since at least 1960.

today they have enough mega-nukes and hi-tech WMD to blow up the world.

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end unbiased report on the absurdity of it all.