Pastor Steven Anderson Defends His Anti-Homosexual Beliefs

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HealthAndHappiness

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I mean, of course we resort to the Bible and God and pray the Holy Spirit reveals the truth to us. That is moot though. I ask because I have a lot of Christian family and friends who completely agree with him. I think he says many truthful things, but it's not completely correct. I don't know if I'm part of the majority or minority. Either way, it's up to me to find out the truth and go to the Bible and Heavenly Father for the doctrine (which was the point you were making).
Smoke, it's late and past my bed time so I shouldn't be posting now, lest I make more mistakes. During the day, I take short breaks that don't allow me time to properly respond as I should it seems.
I have been too hard on you personally and apologize. You aren't cursing Pastor Anderson, even though others certainly do.
I'm the only person on this forum who posts brother Anderson's gospel messages, so this thread is actually between you and me.

I have two of the biggest challenges in my life right now and don't need more drama which is why I don't think the timing of your post and another is incidental or coincidental.

I post his gospel presentations because they are very clear and I think they are some of the best in my collection. My desire is to share with others what someone cared enough to share with me as a teen...how to have a home in heaven.

Brother Anderson has a lot of enemies. He happens to be the most attacked preacher in the LGBPEDO world. The liberal media has used that to get their dying ratings up AND There are people who are paid to attack his church and others.

I first found out about the man when he was tortured by border patrol agents well within the state. They slammed his head and ground his face into the jagged window. Then the group stood around him shooting him with hundreds of thousands of volts of electricity and mocked him.
I know what it's like to get yelled at and I also know what it's like to have sharp stones ground under the face, against the skull, flesh ripped off. Guess what's worse?

I wanted to meet with him briefly at a conference where he was a speaker, but he was too busy sharing the gospel with those in need one on one, so I didn't interrupt.
Eventually I watched some of his preaching on YouTube before the homosexuals got him banned. The devil was surely pleased as much as some Christians on this forum. I'm not speaking of you Smoke, I admit.
Eventually the American government paid other countries and media to ban him from entrance. Whenever a missions trip was scheduled, they would contact the government of those countries to prevent he and his family from entrance. Some of his church members were even jailed in at least one mission trip for committing no crimes. Don't let anyone in this thread tell you otherwise. They don't know what they are doing.

As to the guy in the service that was kicked out, I would have handled it differently, but it's not my church or place to tell him what he should have done. I wasn't in his shoes, nor was anyone else here who pretends to know.
The closest I've been to someone coming up to the podium was a man who had dementia. I walked away from the pulpit so others would not be distracted and asked someone to help him. That was totally different though.

I have a couple friends who are oneness Apostolics. I don't expect them to hire Baptists as their pastor or deacons.
Brother Anderson is a Baptist. He interviews and trains men and they have to agree to basic beliefs before hiring staff. Everyone agreed to the basic doctrines and attended there a long time. One requirement is they have to be Trinitarians to be serving as evangelist or deacons. He already fired a previous staff member who undermined the church and took families away to move with him to his oneness church he started pastoring.
Pastor Anderson published 48 short messages on passages proving the Trinity in addition to other longer congregational messages.
He hired new staff and they agreed to the church doctrines which were traditional Baptist. Guess what? The same demon who infiltrated through the others, did the same through two more staff. He had just found out and was in the process of calling them out before the church and nipping the false teaching in the bud when guess who the devil sent at the exact time it would cause the biggest reaction? Out of thousands of hours of teaching and preaching, when brother Anderson was fuming about the deacon and evangelist he was then firing, "Michael the Archangel" keeps insisting that a prayer be read. Members of the church apparently warned him about the guy who claimed he was God's top angel who insisted he read a strange prayer he had. My perspective is that it wasn't Michael, but rather he had a fallen angel sent to infiltrate and further disrupt by knowing how to push the pastor's buttons. I've dealt with demons before and the picture in the avatar above represents that battle against the damned demon. They study us and know how to use external forces/ people to manipulate.and destroy. As to what should be done about it by the forum?
I think the lost should trust Jesus Christ and get saved. 90+% Were brief gospel messages similar to the ones I share locally.
The last time someone told me to quit posting his gospel presentations many months ago, I prayed for her and realized that there should be twice as much good news shared here and everywhere, so I doubled down.

The time before that, the sodomite men elsewhere online tried to stop the gospel by posting gross queer porn, attacking the gospel presenters and their families and much more than I care to mention now.
When I'm faced with a decision as to whose side to take, a pastor who has led his church to reach over a million people with the good news.......
OR
Sodomites who threaten to murder Christian families and do unspeakable things to the women and children, it's a no brainier.
The enemies of God, the devils in special gvt offices, their libtard propaganda media come up with the attacks on churches that are reaching the lost. That's not the only pastor, but has been through more than those who are afraid to risk persecution by avoiding certain passages of the Bible.

I'll stand with my brothers and sisters who are serving the Lord. I don't want to anger God by erring on the wrong side of such a war.

May that video be a blessing..
Also check out This for something that might help with the family challenge.

To your health and happiness
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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Yes, let us cue those who are truly seeking the mind of Christ.
Your words also reveal something.
Yes, they do. It is called discernment.
You are basing a person's salvation on their behavior. I'm not as perfect as you and others.
That's why I'm depending on Jesus Christ alone to get me to heaven.
Some day, perhaps a hundred years from now when you are weak, maybe you too will sin.
You might need Him Too .
I never claimed to be perfect, so give it a rest. Jesus said that his disciples will be known by their love for one another. Steven Anderson is full of hate. Connect the dots.
 

ResidentAlien

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#23
If you go to a used car dealer, and the salesman shows you a car and tells you everything about this car is in excellent condition; but you know for a fact the transmission is bad. Yeah, the alternator is actually good; the glass is all very good; the tires are great; all these things are true. But he lied to you about the transmission. Would you buy the car? I sure wouldn't, nor would I trust the salesman any longer because he's a liar. KJV onlyism is the transmission.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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If you go to a used car dealer, and the salesman shows you a car and tells you everything about this car is in excellent condition; but you know for a fact the transmission is bad. Yeah, the alternator is actually good; the glass is all very good; the tires are great; all these things are true. But he lied to you about the transmission. Would you buy the car? I sure wouldn't, nor would I trust the salesman any longer because he's a liar. KJV onlyism is the transmission.
Do you realize that your analogy implies that, with the exception of his King James onlyism, Steven Anderson is actually good, very good, great, and true?

The guy is an absolute car wreck.

Apparently, he never even read his King James Version of the Bible. Had he read it, then he would have read this:

2 Timothy 2:24-26

"And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."

Must not strive?

Gentle unto all men?

Apt to teach?

Patient?

Meek?

Good luck finding any of these attributes in a tyrannical madman like Anderson. Normally, I do not advocate government interference in relation to church matters. However, in Anderson's case, I sincerely hope that he is on every sort of government watchlist imaginable because he is a mass shooting just waiting to happen.
 

ResidentAlien

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Do you realize that your analogy implies that, with the exception of his King James onlyism, Steven Anderson is actually good, very good, great, and true?

The guy is an absolute car wreck.

Apparently, he never even read his King James Version of the Bible. Had he read it, then he would have read this:

2 Timothy 2:24-26

"And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will."

Must not strive?

Gentle unto all men?

Apt to teach?

Patient?

Meek?

Good luck finding any of these attributes in a tyrannical madman like Anderson. Normally, I do not advocate government interference in relation to church matters. However, in Anderson's case, I sincerely hope that he is on every sort of government watchlist imaginable because he is a mass shooting just waiting to happen.
I don't really understand your point. First you say he's a great man then you say he's reprehensible? Which is it?
 

Smoke

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I'm not a member of his church.
I don't agree with everything he says, but that's true about everyone else here who's attacking him too.
You said that you were watching a video about the time he was tortured by electrocution, yet you expressed no compassion nor did you compliment his zeal for liberty in the face of stern tyranny.
Instead that says something about you Smoke. That goes for the rest of those on this page who are likewise. It's not a pretty picture. Instead Smoke, you blew the smoke of cursing a man who has been shared with more on this forum to lead them to Christ than any other single person I've seen this past year.

You were moved to bring this up for a reason and the real reason is HERE.

If Pastor Anderson was available to speak to you personally, that link is exactly what he's say.
You think I "cursed" him because I didn't compliment him about the initial video I saw that I didn't post? Or did I "curse" him because I didn't agree with him 100%?
 

Smoke

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Smoke, it's late and past my bed time so I shouldn't be posting now, lest I make more mistakes. During the day, I take short breaks that don't allow me time to properly respond as I should it seems.
I have been too hard on you personally and apologize. You aren't cursing Pastor Anderson, even though others certainly do.
I'm the only person on this forum who posts brother Anderson's gospel messages, so this thread is actually between you and me.

I have two of the biggest challenges in my life right now and don't need more drama which is why I don't think the timing of your post and another is incidental or coincidental.

I post his gospel presentations because they are very clear and I think they are some of the best in my collection. My desire is to share with others what someone cared enough to share with me as a teen...how to have a home in heaven.

Brother Anderson has a lot of enemies. He happens to be the most attacked preacher in the LGBPEDO world. The liberal media has used that to get their dying ratings up AND There are people who are paid to attack his church and others.

I first found out about the man when he was tortured by border patrol agents well within the state. They slammed his head and ground his face into the jagged window. Then the group stood around him shooting him with hundreds of thousands of volts of electricity and mocked him.
I know what it's like to get yelled at and I also know what it's like to have sharp stones ground under the face, against the skull, flesh ripped off. Guess what's worse?

I wanted to meet with him briefly at a conference where he was a speaker, but he was too busy sharing the gospel with those in need one on one, so I didn't interrupt.
Eventually I watched some of his preaching on YouTube before the homosexuals got him banned. The devil was surely pleased as much as some Christians on this forum. I'm not speaking of you Smoke, I admit.
Eventually the American government paid other countries and media to ban him from entrance. Whenever a missions trip was scheduled, they would contact the government of those countries to prevent he and his family from entrance. Some of his church members were even jailed in at least one mission trip for committing no crimes. Don't let anyone in this thread tell you otherwise. They don't know what they are doing.

As to the guy in the service that was kicked out, I would have handled it differently, but it's not my church or place to tell him what he should have done. I wasn't in his shoes, nor was anyone else here who pretends to know.
The closest I've been to someone coming up to the podium was a man who had dementia. I walked away from the pulpit so others would not be distracted and asked someone to help him. That was totally different though.

I have a couple friends who are oneness Apostolics. I don't expect them to hire Baptists as their pastor or deacons.
Brother Anderson is a Baptist. He interviews and trains men and they have to agree to basic beliefs before hiring staff. Everyone agreed to the basic doctrines and attended there a long time. One requirement is they have to be Trinitarians to be serving as evangelist or deacons. He already fired a previous staff member who undermined the church and took families away to move with him to his oneness church he started pastoring.
Pastor Anderson published 48 short messages on passages proving the Trinity in addition to other longer congregational messages.
He hired new staff and they agreed to the church doctrines which were traditional Baptist. Guess what? The same demon who infiltrated through the others, did the same through two more staff. He had just found out and was in the process of calling them out before the church and nipping the false teaching in the bud when guess who the devil sent at the exact time it would cause the biggest reaction? Out of thousands of hours of teaching and preaching, when brother Anderson was fuming about the deacon and evangelist he was then firing, "Michael the Archangel" keeps insisting that a prayer be read. Members of the church apparently warned him about the guy who claimed he was God's top angel who insisted he read a strange prayer he had. My perspective is that it wasn't Michael, but rather he had a fallen angel sent to infiltrate and further disrupt by knowing how to push the pastor's buttons. I've dealt with demons before and the picture in the avatar above represents that battle against the damned demon. They study us and know how to use external forces/ people to manipulate.and destroy. As to what should be done about it by the forum?
I think the lost should trust Jesus Christ and get saved. 90+% Were brief gospel messages similar to the ones I share locally.
The last time someone told me to quit posting his gospel presentations many months ago, I prayed for her and realized that there should be twice as much good news shared here and everywhere, so I doubled down.

The time before that, the sodomite men elsewhere online tried to stop the gospel by posting gross queer porn, attacking the gospel presenters and their families and much more than I care to mention now.
When I'm faced with a decision as to whose side to take, a pastor who has led his church to reach over a million people with the good news.......
OR
Sodomites who threaten to murder Christian families and do unspeakable things to the women and children, it's a no brainier.
The enemies of God, the devils in special gvt offices, their libtard propaganda media come up with the attacks on churches that are reaching the lost. That's not the only pastor, but has been through more than those who are afraid to risk persecution by avoiding certain passages of the Bible.

I'll stand with my brothers and sisters who are serving the Lord. I don't want to anger God by erring on the wrong side of such a war.

May that video be a blessing..
Also check out This for something that might help with the family challenge.

To your health and happiness
Ignore my last message, I was responding to posts in order and just came across this. I appreciate it and no problem. :)
 

ResidentAlien

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You said that you were watching a video about the time he was tortured by electrocution, yet you expressed no compassion nor did you compliment his zeal for liberty in the face of stern tyranny.
Dude, I sincerely feel sorry for you. As a Christian, why are you so fearful of "tyrants?" You see tyrants under every rock. Who indoctrinated you into this mentality? It wasn't the Lord or the Holy Spirit.

I've seen the clip about Anderson's tasing. I have no problem saying I thought it was pretty funny. He was asking for it and he got it. He should've just complied; that would've been the Christian thing to do. But I don't think Anderson is very worried about that; he's too busy worrying about how to make Steven Anderson look like a bigshot.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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This is an old video, but I recently came across this after watching a video of him getting tazed by police/border agents for something entirely different.

Do you agree with everything he says? What, if anything, do you disagree with? 🤔

Most of what he says/does I disagree with. He is anti-Semitic on top of everything else. Wouldn't give him a second of my time.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Whoa..... there really is a true pastor out there. This is good! I can certify having read The Holy Bible multiple times thoroughly from cover-to-cover multiple times that he's not lying, indeed the Bible says what he says, he is telling the truth may God bless his zeal, PRAISE JESUS!

I would slow my excitement if I were you. This man is not a man of God. Look a little deeper. He is an anti-Semite and if you sit down and listen to him for long you will see he's more of an "entertainer" than anything else. Even a broken clock is right once in a while. Same with this guy.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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I don't really understand your point. First you say he's a great man then you say he's reprehensible? Which is it?
What are you talking about?

You are the one who likened him to a car that truly is good, very good, and great, with the exception of the transmission that you likened to his KJV onlyism.

In reality, a better comparison would be between him and a car with no wheels, no engine, no steering wheel, and no radio. The guy is a complete mess, and he should have been thrown out of the pulpit a long time ago.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I'm not a member of his church.
I don't agree with everything he says, but that's true about everyone else here who's attacking him too.
You said that you were watching a video about the time he was tortured by electrocution, yet you expressed no compassion nor did you compliment his zeal for liberty in the face of stern tyranny.
Instead that says something about you Smoke. That goes for the rest of those on this page who are likewise. It's not a pretty picture. Instead Smoke, you blew the smoke of cursing a man who has been shared with more on this forum to lead them to Christ than any other single person I've seen this past year.

You were moved to bring this up for a reason and the real reason is HERE.

If Pastor Anderson was available to speak to you personally, that link is exactly what he's say.

Anderson is wrong more than he is right. Please use discernment when listening to him speak.
 

PennEd

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Dude, I sincerely feel sorry for you. As a Christian, why are you so fearful of "tyrants?" You see tyrants under every rock. Who indoctrinated you into this mentality? It wasn't the Lord or the Holy Spirit.

I've seen the clip about Anderson's tasing. I have no problem saying I thought it was pretty funny. He was asking for it and he got it. He should've just complied; that would've been the Christian thing to do. But I don't think Anderson is very worried about that; he's too busy worrying about how to make Steven Anderson look like a bigshot.
I just looked up and watched the whole video.

All I kept thinking was, what the heck is wrong with YOU!

Regardless of how someone feels about this paster, or his message, that video made me sick to my stomach on several different levels.

First, the pastor broke no laws and was ZERO threat to anyone and has a 1st amendment right to say what he wants, especially outside the doors of his own Church.

Second, there was NO reason to chase him into the Church, tase, and shove, and subsequently arrest him.

Third, the cops assaulted a pregnant woman there.

Fourth, you could hear children crying in terror over the actions of these "police".


YOU, are the one that needs to check your heart for finding that event funny.

Here's the video folks. Decide for yourself:

Body cam footage shows pastor tasered, arrested after calling cop ‘tyrant’ - YouTube
 

ResidentAlien

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What are you talking about?

You are the one who likened him to a car that truly is good, very good, and great, with the exception of the transmission that you likened to his KJV onlyism.

In reality, a better comparison would be between him and a car with no wheels, no engine, no steering wheel, and no radio. The guy is a complete mess, and he should have been thrown out of the pulpit a long time ago.
Okay, your analogy is better. Now I get it. You must be KJV only.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Must not strive?

Gentle unto all men?

Apt to teach?

Patient?

Meek?

Good luck finding any of these attributes in a tyrannical madman like Anderson. Normally, I do not advocate government interference in relation to church matters. However, in Anderson's case, I sincerely hope that he is on every sort of government watchlist imaginable because he is a mass shooting just waiting to happen.
My guess is he isn't quite all there and his "people" have no discernment. He said in one of his sermons he "hates Obama, not his sin (he makes clear) he hates the person." Now I am no fan of Obama, but the man has a soul. The guy is just loopy. He says crazy things to get attention. I wouldn't have him as a pastor for five minutes. He's trying to be inflammatory and if I were Baptist I would find a way to forbid him from using that name.
 

Smoke

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I just looked up and watched the whole video.

All I kept thinking was, what the heck is wrong with YOU!

Regardless of how someone feels about this paster, or his message, that video made me sick to my stomach on several different levels.

First, the pastor broke no laws and was ZERO threat to anyone and has a 1st amendment right to say what he wants, especially outside the doors of his own Church.

Second, there was NO reason to chase him into the Church, tase, and shove, and subsequently arrest him.

Third, the cops assaulted a pregnant woman there.

Fourth, you could hear children crying in terror over the actions of these "police".


YOU, are the one that needs to check your heart for finding that event funny.

Here's the video folks. Decide for yourself:

Body cam footage shows pastor tasered, arrested after calling cop ‘tyrant’ - YouTube
This isn't Steven Anderson.

Also, I have no problem admitting when cops mess up, but this site doesn't tolerate videos which hold police accountable for their unlawful actions. I think they banned an account not that long ago for posting a video which clearly implicated cops covering for drunk driving off-duty cops.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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Okay, your analogy is better. Now I get it. You must be KJV only.
Did you childishly change my username?

Go to the nursery.

Do not pass "Go."

Do not collect $200.

And, no, I am not KJV only, so you get nothing but a zero on your mid-terms.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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#39
I just looked up and watched the whole video.

All I kept thinking was, what the heck is wrong with YOU!

Regardless of how someone feels about this paster, or his message, that video made me sick to my stomach on several different levels.

First, the pastor broke no laws and was ZERO threat to anyone and has a 1st amendment right to say what he wants, especially outside the doors of his own Church.
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Second, there was NO reason to chase him into the Church, tase, and shove, and subsequently arrest him.

Third, the cops assaulted a pregnant woman there.

Fourth, you could hear children crying in terror over the actions of these "police".


YOU, are the one that needs to check your heart for finding that event funny.

Here's the video folks. Decide for yourself:

Body cam footage shows pastor tasered, arrested after calling cop ‘tyrant’ - YouTube
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with RA, he baited the police and then pretended to be surprised when they reacted. Calling them Nazi's and carrying on like he didn't deserve it. The officer told both men to be quiet and get off the street. Had they done that there would have been no drama. They didn't listen but kept baiting the cop. They got the result they were looking for, attention. Shame on him, crying little ones scared to death for no reason but his stupidity. As far as his family members I'll just assume they are nutty as he is. smh.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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#40
I just looked up and watched the whole video.

All I kept thinking was, what the heck is wrong with YOU!

Regardless of how someone feels about this paster, or his message, that video made me sick to my stomach on several different levels.

First, the pastor broke no laws and was ZERO threat to anyone and has a 1st amendment right to say what he wants, especially outside the doors of his own Church.

Second, there was NO reason to chase him into the Church, tase, and shove, and subsequently arrest him.

Third, the cops assaulted a pregnant woman there.

Fourth, you could hear children crying in terror over the actions of these "police".


YOU, are the one that needs to check your heart for finding that event funny.

Here's the video folks. Decide for yourself:

Body cam footage shows pastor tasered, arrested after calling cop ‘tyrant’ - YouTube
That's not Anderson, and those cops should be in prison.