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ZNP

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The good news is that once the Republicans took control of Congress the first thing they did was retract their bogus January 6th hearing and conclusions and began a real investigation allowing both parties to select their committee members, releasing all the video, all the emails, and holding all the people like Pelosi and Schumer and the Sergeant at Arms and the celebrity cops and the FBI accountable. Just kidding. If they had done that there wouldn't even be a fig leaf for Jack Smith and all these indictments of Trump.
 

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I agree that every part of information must be on the table before decisions are made.

However, not any of us know what kind of information prosecution has. A trial will give the court the information needed to make a decision.
 

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I agree that every part of information must be on the table before decisions are made.

However, not any of us know what kind of information prosecution has. A trial will give the court the information needed to make a decision.
Tell that to Jacob Chansley
 

Susanna

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Tell that to Jacob Chansley
We all know how the judicial system works. If you can’t afford anything but a public defender, you’re in for some serious trouble.

Question is: Why didn’t his supporters from allegedly high up get him a good lawyer?
 

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We all know how the judicial system works. If you can’t afford anything but a public defender, you’re in for some serious trouble.

Question is: Why didn’t his supporters from allegedly high up get him a good lawyer?
Really, that is the question that you took away?

I had a different take, we all know how the judicial system is supposed to work, all evidence that the prosecution has they by law must reveal to the defense. See if you don't do that and try to railroad someone then they can humiliate you on Tucker Carlson for the whole world to see.
 

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Tucker DROPS January 6th BOMBSHELL: 'Feds in MAGA Gear INSIDE Capitol BEFORE Doors Opened, PROOF!'👀

 

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Really, that is the question that you took away?

I had a different take, we all know how the judicial system is supposed to work, all evidence that the prosecution has they by law must reveal to the defense. See if you don't do that and try to railroad someone then they can humiliate you on Tucker Carlson for the whole world to see.
“Supposed to work” is key. But it doesn’t work that way. If the defendant has a bad lawyer, the defendant is in trouble deep. I’ve been on the witness stand many times over the last 25 years, and sometimes I just have speak up for the defendant even when I was the one who apprehended him (yes, it’s usually a guy).

The DA has revealed every piece of evidence, but that doesn’t help if the lawyer hasn’t bothered to go through it.
 

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“Supposed to work” is key. But it doesn’t work that way. If the defendant has a bad lawyer, the defendant is in trouble deep. I’ve been on the witness stand many times over the last 25 years, and sometimes I just have speak up for the defendant even when I was the one who apprehended him (yes, it’s usually a guy).

The DA has revealed every piece of evidence, but that doesn’t help if the lawyer hasn’t bothered to go through it.
Kind of says a lot when the officer, the detective and the DA have to act as a lawyer for the defendant. Not all District attorneys execute that obligation.
 

ZNP

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“Supposed to work” is key. But it doesn’t work that way. If the defendant has a bad lawyer, the defendant is in trouble deep. I’ve been on the witness stand many times over the last 25 years, and sometimes I just have speak up for the defendant even when I was the one who apprehended him (yes, it’s usually a guy).

The DA has revealed every piece of evidence, but that doesn’t help if the lawyer hasn’t bothered to go through it.
Did they reveal the entrapment to him and his lawyer? Over 200 Feds many dressed as MAGA supporters, some were inside the capital before any doors were opened.

Tucker DROPS January 6th BOMBSHELL: 'Feds in MAGA Gear INSIDE Capitol BEFORE Doors Opened, PROOF!'👀

 

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Some people are complaining that one guy was given 20 years in prison when he wasn't even in Washington DC for January 6th while Ray Epps is given a slap on the wrist even though he "orchestrated the attack" (his words) and we have video tape evidence of him inciting the crowd to break the law and enter the capital building.

What you have to understand is the two people have very different crimes. The guy who got 20 years voted for Donald Trump and publicly supports Donald Trump. Ray Epps did not vote for him and does not support him. You see, Ray Epps is a good guy. The reason he was inciting the crowd was not to overthrow the government, it was to catch as many bad Trump supporters as you can with the claim of insurrection.

This is why the judge apologized to him saying if it wasn't for the radical extremists demanding Ray Epps be treated like an insurrectionist they never would have prosecuted him. This is why they let him had a Zoom call trial, so he could avoid the perp walk.
 

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Is everything they told us a lie?

LEAKED DNC Security Footage IMPLODES Feds January 6th ‘Pipe Bomb’ Lies | This Changes EVERYTHING 🚨

 

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The Plot Thickens: Damning New Details Emerge in Jan 6 Pipe Bomb Cover Up

https://revolver.news/2024/01/plot-thickens-damning-new-details-emerge-in-jan-6-pipe-bomb-cover-up/

Revolver News’ years-long ground-breaking coverage of the January 6 pipe bomb story has finally reached escape velocity with the help of a remarkable and damning video released on account of Congressman Massie’s heroic and persistent efforts. We encourage readers not fully caught up on the January 6 pipe bomb hoax to consult our latest and definitive pipe bomb piece here. As to the damning video in question depicting the discovery of the DNC pipe bomb, we refer to Darren Beattie’s detailed and mega-viral Twitter thread below (viewed over 12 million times). The most striking feature of the footage depicting the discovery of the DNC bomb is the utter nonchalance of the Secret Service officials, Metro PD officials, and Capitol Police officers upon learning of the proximity of the bomb. The Metro PD officers didn’t even bother getting out of their vehicles for about a minute after being informed of the bomb and proceeded to stand around in the most lackadaisical fashion imaginable once getting out of the vehicles. Most flagrantly, the video depicts a group of children who are allowed to cross the street toward the bomb and walk within feet of it, with Secret Service agents standing around without a care in the world.
This leads us to ask: how do we explain the utter indifference of the Secret Service to their own safety, to the safety of their protectee, Kamala Harris (then VP elect), and passersby, including a group of children? This indifference overwhelmingly suggests Kamala Harris’ Secret Service detail knew that the DNC bomb didn’t pose a threat, but this just raises the more damning question: how would they have known that this recently discovered DNC pipe bomb was a dud?

As it so happens, Congressman Massie and a number of other Judiciary officials had the opportunity to meet with relevant Capitol Police officials, including at least one Capitol Police officer who was present during the discovery of the DNC bomb depicted in the video above. When asked the obvious and burning question as to why Secret Service officials, as well as the Capitol Police officers on scene, were so utterly unconcerned with the recently discovered bomb just feet within their proximity, the Capitol Police responded that they and the Secret Service officials on scene reacted with such utter indifference in order not to cause panic.

Think about this. The Secret Service was notified of the presence of an explosive device within feet of themselves, the Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, whom they’re supposed to protect, and children and other passersby, and we are supposed to believe that the officials did nothing because they didn’t want to cause panic! If you believe that, we’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn or a Fedsurrection in D.C. to sell you, folks!

There is another major question surrounding the discovery of the DNC bomb, and that is the timing. For a full, detailed breakdown of just how infinitesimally improbable the timing of the discovery of the DNC and RNC bombs was, please consult our definitive pipe bomb piece. As a summary, consider the following facts:

  • At the time the DNC pipe bomb was discovered at 1:05 p.m., it had been sitting out fairly conspicuously, undiscovered, for over 17 hours (it was planted the evening before, we’re told, at 8:00 p.m.). We have long remarked upon the odd fact that the DNC bomb lay out in the open, undiscovered, for over 17 hours. Indeed, no motorists, no pedestrians on a high-foot traffic day, not the regularly stationed DNC security guard who is normally posted within feet of where the bomb was planted. And of course, the Secret Service of the United States managed to miss the DNC pipe bomb in their sweep of the area—the very same Secret Service that acted with such nonchalance upon being informed of the presence of the DNC bomb, to the point that it is clear that for whatever reason they knew in advance that it was inert and benign.
  • When the DNC bomb was discovered at 1:05 p.m., this was scarcely after the first pipe bomb was discovered behind a trash can in a back alley by the Capitol Hill Club at 12:40 p.m. by a random pedestrian called Karlin Younger. Younger reported the bomb to a Capitol Hill Club security official (incidentally, who was a veteran of Capitol Police), and the Capitol Police began responding to this first bomb at 12:50 p.m., just three minutes before the initial and decisive West Perimeter (Ray Epps Breach) of the Capitol.
The first pipe bomb had been planted the evening before as well, and so like the DNC pipe bomb, it had been sitting where it was planted for over 16 hours before being discovered. So we are supposed to believe that the first pipe bomb was planted in a back alley behind a trash can, sat there for over 16 hours, and just happened to be randomly stumbled upon almost to the exact minute as to be perfectly synchronized with the initial decisive attack on the West Perimeter of the Capitol and the certification of the vote proceeding at 1:00 p.m. Furthermore, we are supposed to believe that after sitting for 17 hours undiscovered, the DNC pipe bomb was happened upon scarcely 15 minutes after the first pipe bomb was discovered, meaning that both pipe bombs had been sitting there for 16 and 17 hours and were independently randomly discovered within a 15-minute timeframe that perfectly coincides with the unfolding attack on the Capitol! And of course, the same Secret Service that somehow missed the DNC pipe bomb in its sweep is utterly nonchalant when informed of this bomb, despite this being merely 15 minutes after the first bomb was discovered.
 

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"Donald Trump did not engage in insurrection, that is a fact"

Wow, this press conference by Gates and a bunch of other congressmen and women just hit Colorado lawsuit in the nose!