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Please show me the math you performed - by which you determined that 50 days later falls on the same day of the week as the 'zero' day from which the 50 days is counted.

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I was quoting a source. The point I was trying to get across was that the Roman Catholic church admitted to changing the Sabbath, I don't know muchabout the math they used to decide on the day that they chose to chabge it to. God bless you brother, and love and peace to you.
 

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"Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did, happened in the first century. The holy day, the Sabbath, was changed from Saturday to Sunday. 'The Day of the Lord' (dies Dominica) was chosen, not from any directions noted in the Scriptures, but from the Church's sense of it's own power. The day of resurrection, the day of Pentecost, fifty days later, came on the first day of the week. So this would be the new Sabbath."
Pentecost is the feast of new wine, it is not 50 days from resurrection, it is 50 days from Shavuot or ascension day. It was not "created" by the church but is in the OT though it is never referred to as "Pentecost".

Shavuot is ascension day. It is 7 complete sabbaths after resurrection and then one more day. 7 complete sabbaths is not 50 days because you go through two new moon sabbaths which will be 2-3 days each. Hence Shavuot is known as the holiday that no one knows the day.
 
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Pentecost is the feast of new wine, it is not 50 days from resurrection, it is 50 days from Shavuot or ascension day. It was not "created" by the church but is in the OT though it is never referred to as "Pentecost".

Shavuot is ascension day. It is 7 complete sabbaths after resurrection and then one more day. 7 complete sabbaths is not 50 days because you go through two new moon sabbaths which will be 2-3 days each. Hence Shavuot is known as the holiday that no one knows the day.
If you use the 7 day week method it'll fall on a Sunday then. But thank for clearing that up brother. God bless you.
 

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I never said anything about the veracity of your statement regarding the kid with covid. You need to calm down and re-read all of what I wrote. My my my.
What's with the presumptuous rudeness. You say I need to calm down, is that an example of how you draw your conclusions, tactless assumptions? (I'm going against my conscious by posting this, it sounds contentious).
 

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I am not familiar with the study you quoted but it doesn't sound right. I saw a plane full of Fully vaccinated Democrats and a number of them got Covid. I saw cases in Mass and Israel which suggests people who are vaccinated are every bit as likely to get the new variant as those who aren't.
This report says something different:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-644288348135
 

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The article said that almost all of those who got this latest strain of Covid were vaccinated. The "fact check" was pointing out context, first almost everyone in Israel is vaccinated, so any variant that breaks through the vaccine will appear to infect mostly those who are vaccinated. The second thing they think people need to know is that this is one of the first countries to be vaccinated so this suggests the vaccine may provide protection for 6 months.

There is nothing in the fact check that denies the veracity of the claim, only that "context is missing".
 

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Thats right. But these conspiracy theorys about that 65% of the vaccined will die after one year, or the vaccine is for to reduce the mankind has nothing to do with something you can proof or research. These are empty claimes which creating baseless fear to those who took the vaccine.

Well, the news from the Graphen oxid comes from a Suisse Website which quotes a " study" from a spain Professor Pablo Cambra Madrid from the university of Almeria.
He claimes that from 1 bottle of Pfizer he took 6 shots which content 99,99103% Graphen oxid. To make it short. The colour of vaccine with 0,5% Graphen oxid is brown. 99% must be deepblack. My shot Was waterclear. One Dr. Barbara Kahler is spreading this in a Videoclip. But her claim is baseless. No vaccine against covid contains Graphen oxid. It is a baseless claim from known antivax, right wing people in germany.


From the way your spelling things your in Germany? You have to bare in mind that many here are in the US and we have an long history of deception by our Government. During ww2 we were told that just off the coast the navy was practicing shooting down targets but years later we found out that in fact they were trying to sink German submarines that were positioned to sink cargo ships as they came out of the channels headed for Europe. The thing is that we were told that to so that we wouldn't panic because the Germans were that close to our homeland and so we would just keep on as usual going about things.

This is the address that JFK gave on October the 22,1962
and afterwards (years later) we found out that JFK and Johnson both had their keys in the panels and turned on five days later(October 27th 1962) and that the USSR did also. But the whole time we were going back and forth to work and our wives were dressing our children to send them to school because we didn't have a clue that none of us might come home that day if they had have pushed those buttons.

If UAP's were stacked up in outer space ready to enter our orbit based on the the past actions of the US government there is no reason to believe they would tell us. If Yellowstone was about to erupt the same, there is no reason to assume they would tell us. When they came up with these vaccines we were not told that they contained aborted fetal tissue https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/human-cell-strains-vaccine-development (and everyone posting on this thread has taken some of them without knowing it) and so there is no reason to believe that they would be truthful about it now.

There is a company in California named Senomyx https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senomyx that uses fetal cells to make sweeteners and sells them to many companies to use in their products as sweetener substitutes and feed them to us(and ship them to Europe). Now your asking about an ingredient https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_oxide and "all we know for sure is we might not know" that is based on the past history of what they told us. This might be better if they had been truthful in the past but hey all we know is that they never told us the truth in the past and they say this is in Moderna https://www.fda.gov/media/144638/download and who on earth would know if graphine oxide is in Phizer.
 

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This fact check is misleading. Yes, it is true that initially for the first five or six months the vaccine was effective at reducing infections. However, we are now seeing in a variety of instances that there is no difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated with the Delta variant. It may be because the effectiveness of the vaccine has decreased with time as the fact checkers suggest, or it may be that we have a new variant that the vaccine does not protect against. We don't know the answer to that. If it is the second option then the vaccine is no longer effective.
 

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The article said that almost all of those who got this latest strain of Covid were vaccinated. The "fact check" was pointing out context, first almost everyone in Israel is vaccinated, so any variant that breaks through the vaccine will appear to infect mostly those who are vaccinated. The second thing they think people need to know is that this is one of the first countries to be vaccinated so this suggests the vaccine may provide protection for 6 months.

There is nothing in the fact check that denies the veracity of the claim, only that "context is missing".
CLAIM: The newest Israeli data on COVID-19 infections indicate a complete vaccine failure on every
level. The data from Israel shows that nearly all serious cases and deaths are among the vaccinated.


AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The claim ignores the fact that Israel has only a fraction of the
COVID-19 cases that it had in January, before vaccines were widespread. Furthermore, the majority
of adults in Israel are now vaccinated with two Pfizer shots. No vaccine is perfect at preventing
breakthrough cases, but the data shows vaccines are reducing the number of people who are
severely ill, hospitalized or die from the virus.
<- This was the basis of what Tabs said in the first place.

THE FACTS: Israel was one of the first countries to vaccinate a huge swath of its population against
COVID-19. Health officials around the world have been watching to see how the country fares against
COVID-19 variants and how effective the Pfizer vaccine works at protecting the population.


Misleading posts on social media are now twisting data from Israel to falsely claim the country’s
vaccination program is a failure due to the number of breakthrough cases of COVID-19 among the
vaccinated. Medical professionals say Israel’s vaccine program is making remarkable progress against the virus.
 

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I think were all just spinning our wheels and about a third of mankind is going to eventually die just as the Bible says. There's no point in debating the vaxers from the anti-vaxers because it's gonna do the same to both and were being fed articles to cause us to not see it and just keep on going to work and school while the governments try to come up with something to keep Babylon afloat.
 

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CLAIM: The newest Israeli data on COVID-19 infections indicate a complete vaccine failure on every
level. The data from Israel shows that nearly all serious cases and deaths are among the vaccinated.


AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The claim ignores the fact that Israel has only a fraction of the
COVID-19 cases that it had in January, before vaccines were widespread. Furthermore, the majority
of adults in Israel are now vaccinated with two Pfizer shots. No vaccine is perfect at preventing
breakthrough cases, but the data shows vaccines are reducing the number of people who are
severely ill, hospitalized or die from the virus.
<- This was the basis of what Tabs said in the first place.

THE FACTS: Israel was one of the first countries to vaccinate a huge swath of its population against
COVID-19. Health officials around the world have been watching to see how the country fares against
COVID-19 variants and how effective the Pfizer vaccine works at protecting the population.


Misleading posts on social media are now twisting data from Israel to falsely claim the country’s
vaccination program is a failure due to the number of breakthrough cases of COVID-19 among the
vaccinated. Medical professionals say Israel’s vaccine program is making remarkable progress against the virus.
Israel always is miles ahead in many important issues. De-salination of water, now supplying water to surrounding neighbors, irrigation techniques and a cancer killing plant they are working on. I'd look up more facts but have to get to my 1 yr Bible then watch some films. Still pondering how Christian it really is to take someone's statement then twist it and try and put them down.....Ok, thought about it and that approach doesn't sound like something Jesus would say. Later, Ms M:love:
 

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CLAIM: The newest Israeli data on COVID-19 infections indicate a complete vaccine failure on every
level. The data from Israel shows that nearly all serious cases and deaths are among the vaccinated.


AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The claim ignores the fact that Israel has only a fraction of the
COVID-19 cases that it had in January, before vaccines were widespread. Furthermore, the majority
of adults in Israel are now vaccinated with two Pfizer shots. No vaccine is perfect at preventing
breakthrough cases, but the data shows vaccines are reducing the number of people who are
severely ill, hospitalized or die from the virus.
<- This was the basis of what Tabs said in the first place.

THE FACTS: Israel was one of the first countries to vaccinate a huge swath of its population against
COVID-19. Health officials around the world have been watching to see how the country fares against
COVID-19 variants and how effective the Pfizer vaccine works at protecting the population.


Misleading posts on social media are now twisting data from Israel to falsely claim the country’s
vaccination program is a failure due to the number of breakthrough cases of COVID-19 among the
vaccinated. Medical professionals say Israel’s vaccine program is making remarkable progress against the virus.

They are an study in their own self but against great hopes it seems the breakthrough percentages are establishing disappointing results https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...dy-finds-26-covid-breakthrough-infection-rate That is that contrary to hopes those who contracted C-19 after vaccination are considered "asymptomatic" and so are still capable of spreading C-19 into the population(vaccinated or un-vaccinated)...
 

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They are an study in their own self but against great hopes it seems the breakthrough percentages are establishing disappointing results https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...dy-finds-26-covid-breakthrough-infection-rate That is that contrary to hopes those who contracted C-19 after vaccination are considered "asymptomatic" and so are still capable of spreading C-19 into the population(vaccinated or un-vaccinated)...

By all logical thinking if this study states that in those who were vaccinated who had breakthrough infections were narrowed down to reinfections by family members or co workers at 57 percent then why do they say that the phizer is 94 percent effective? isn't it suppose to be 6 percent? It seems to me that if those who were reinfected by family and co-workers were reinfected at a percent of 57 percent then 57 from 100 is 43 percent effective? Maybe I just cant add,,,lol
 

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They are an study in their own self but against great hopes it seems the breakthrough percentages are establishing disappointing results https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...dy-finds-26-covid-breakthrough-infection-rate That is that contrary to hopes those who contracted C-19 after vaccination are considered "asymptomatic" and so are still capable of spreading C-19 into the population(vaccinated or un-vaccinated)...
If they are asymptomatic, would they then be considered sick?

Somehow, I doubt it. They would not be hospitalized and fighting for their life, either.

The funny thing is, Tabs said something that others twisted beyond recognition and argued
against, saying she had no way of knowing what she had claimed, as if they had any way of
knowing anything different, when they could not even comprehend a simple statement.


Change of topic: I saw a documentary recently called Fantastic Fungi. Have you seen it on Netflix?

It was one of the most fascinating, information dense shows I have seen in a while :)

I have been wanting to recommend it to you since, if you have not seen it :D
 

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If they are asymptomatic, would they then be considered sick?

Somehow, I doubt it. They would not be hospitalized and fighting for their life, either.

The funny thing is, Tabs said something that others twisted beyond recognition and argued
against, saying she had no way of knowing what she had claimed, as if they had any way of
knowing anything different, when they could not even comprehend a simple statement.


Change of topic: I saw a documentary recently called Fantastic Fungi. Have you seen it on Netflix?

It was one of the most fascinating, information dense shows I have seen in a while :)

I have been wanting to recommend it to you since, if you have not seen it :D

No I've been watching "rotten"(about food supply,corruption ect.) but I'll look it up because I'm almost done watching rotten. Did you watch "war of the worlds mini series?",,It helps if you can read French in a few spots but a lot of it is in English. I didn't notice at first but a lot of it goes back to the "cult of reason"(atheist beliefs in France in 1700's-1800's ect.) in that many of the characters state in the dialog they don't believe in God. I'm not sure if I watched the end of it or not, me and my wife watched the last three episodes and were not sure if there's going to be more or if that was how it ended?(mini series get you that way,lol)...
 

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Fear mongering is the way of the ungodly.
Me and a friend of mine used to go out all the time when we were young and just when I was at the door leaving she would say "you be good" and I would say "yes mam mamma I will" and then she would say "then why bother going if you gotta be good you may as well stay home?"(that always stumped me,lol) You know though she knew where I was going and that she wasn't gonna be there every moment of my life,,,that's one sure tender loving mama that put her two cents into her beloved sons mind right?
 

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No I've been watching "rotten"(about food supply,corruption ect.) but I'll look it up because I'm almost done watching rotten. Did you watch "war of the worlds mini series?",,It helps if you can read French in a few spots but a lot of it is in English. I didn't notice at first but a lot of it goes back to the "cult of reason"(atheist beliefs in France in 1700's-1800's ect.) in that many of the characters state in the dialog they don't believe in God. I'm not sure if I watched the end of it or not, me and my wife watched the last three episodes and were not sure if there's going to be more or if that was how it ended?(mini series get you that way,lol)...
Was the first episode of "Rotten" about the avocados' industry? I may have seen a little of it :D

I watched a doc on David Geffen today and last night. It is so interesting to get a more intimate
look into the lives of the people who bring us all these movies and the music that mark such
memorable milestones in our lives. I saw another one a little while ago on Clive Davis. Both

these men have been very much loved and feted in their industries, and both might say of
themselves that they have no talent but to spot and nurture talent in others. It made them rich :)
 

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Was the first episode of "Rotten" about the avocados' industry? I may have seen a little of it :D

I watched a doc on David Geffen today and last night. It is so interesting to get a more intimate
look into the lives of the people who bring us all these movies and the music that mark such
memorable milestones in our lives. I saw another one a little while ago on Clive Davis. Both

these men have been very much loved and feted in their industries, and both might say of
themselves that they have no talent but to spot and nurture talent in others. It made them rich :)

Yes the fist part was about the Avacotae war. It takes off slow but I thought it was really interesting when it got to the allergies(peanuts and such) because no ones actually allergic to foods(so to speak) milk,peanuts.seafood ect. whats happening is they are adding antibiotics into the feed their giving chickens,cows, pigs ect. and because were eating it it is reducing the bacteria, (antibiotics kill bacteria) in our intestinal systems and so our children's antibodies are beginning to see these foods as invaders and trying to eliminate them(allergic reactions)...
 
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My husband and I got our shots. We are fine. Eveyone in our family did as well and they are all fine. What do you fear?
If this continues, we will onlly get stronger and stronger variants.

If you are prolife, then show it. I personaly lost my very best friend to this disease and I know of others. My daugher also knows people who havedied.
At the very least watch this video ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-58080116

If this saves just one life, then it was wroth posting.
Thank you forreading.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT

No thanks... That would be going against the advice of my doctors.
Besides, your vaccinated, right... Then u should have nothing to worry about...
 
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