PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

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ZNP

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Some key citations in this thread


Post #4321 -- The vaccine is 5x more dangerous than Covid

Post #4331 -- No one can say the vaccine is safe

Post #4332 -- List of news reports of people dying suddenly after the vaccine
Post #4283, Post #4262, Post #4273

Post #4310 -- Taiwan stops Pfizer vaccine due to health risks

Post #4319 -- VAERS analysis proves vaccine is dangerous and deadly
Post #4263 -- UK study

Post #4320 -- Mayo Clinic seeing reverse HIV from vaccine
Post #4287 -- VAERS data showing surge in reports of serious injuries

Post #4238 -- Vaccine cards for 5 year olds.
 

Gideon300

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I haven't heard either of those 2 arguments.


I agree. All it takes is for people to yell long and hard about an issue and folks will start to believe it. Like how a sickness with a 99+% survival rate is a "pandemic". 😉
I won't embarrass the posters by identifying them. And you need to look up the definition of "pandemic". It has nothing to do with survival rates.

Schools used to teach people how to think, use logic and reason. Words meant something. Now words mean whatever someone decides that they mean. I read a complaint by an overweight black saying that the word "obese" was racist. So what do I say to him, "Hey you fat slob, get some exercise and eat properly"? At least I would be accused of something real instead of his imagination.
 

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I won't embarrass the posters by identifying them. And you need to look up the definition of "pandemic". It has nothing to do with survival rates.

Schools used to teach people how to think, use logic and reason.
The fundamental issue here is not whether or not this is a pandemic, the issue is whether or not the experimental vaccine should be mandated for people 5 years old on up and if you are not vaccinated you get fired, you can't go to school, and you cannot walk into a store. That issue has everything to do with survivability rates. The basic principle in medicine is "do no harm" or "do the least harm possible". It is illegal in the US to mandate an experimental vaccine. It is an insult to our logic and reason that the US government would declare a state of emergency in September and therefore mandate a vaccine for businesses to take effect in January.

It defies all logic and reason that the places accused of being superspreader states that don't care about the science like Florida have the lowest rates of Covid whereas those who have faithfully followed the edicts from on high have the highest. The first region in the US to get to herd immunity was the Amish community which didn't have anyone vaccinated.

Meanwhile Israel and Singapore, two places with the highest vaccination rates have to mandate booster shots as they are now into their third wave. How is that reasonable or logical?
 

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I won't embarrass the posters by identifying them. And you need to look up the definition of "pandemic". It has nothing to do with survival rates.

Schools used to teach people how to think, use logic and reason. Words meant something. Now words mean whatever someone decides that they mean. I read a complaint by an overweight black saying that the word "obese" was racist. So what do I say to him, "Hey you fat slob, get some exercise and eat properly"? At least I would be accused of something real instead of his imagination.
words do mean something.

like words like" people should do what they are told by the government"

that was your response to aussie cops beating people bloody.
 

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Schools used to teach people how to think, use logic and reason..
One post put it this way:

We tried scaring you, then we bribed you, then we guilted you, then we shamed you, then we blamed you, now we’re going to fire you because we care about you.

Is that logical or reasonable?
 

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@LaVura
I am so sorry for your losses. For some people, the only way they will "get it" is by getting very sick or losing a family member to this disease.
By that logic those who have lost a family member to the vaccine should get it by now.
 

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Nearly 7 million shot have been given in Australia. About 7 people have died from the shot. No unborn babies. Vaccinated people who catch the virus show very mild symptoms. And most vaccinated people are fully protected. I am mystified by the "statistics" that are trotted out by anti vaxxers. They in no way correlate to what happens in real life.
https://rumble.com/vpgpp8-how-did-w...w-on-shocking-covid-19-issues-in-austral.html

Dr. Nikolai Petrovsky, a renowned researcher, professor and expert in the field of immunology, endocrinology and vaccine development speaks about the shocking Covid-19 restrictions that have tightened around Australia.

Dr. Petrovsky is the founder of the vaccine company, Vaxine, funded by the US NIH to develop novel vaccine technologies. He has developed a protein subunit vaccine for COVID-19. He also serves as director of endocrinology at Flinders Medical Centre, Australia, and is vice-president and secretary-general of the international immunomics society.

See the full interview here |
Vaxine Website Link | https://vaxine.net/
 

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as usual, Q is way behind.

stories about covid never actually being isolated were floating around last summer. like 16 months ago .
LoL... oh geez... Try to keep up...
This is an Information War and an Information Campaign...
- 16 months ago the Majority of people who are NOW AWAKE we're still ASLEEP and deemed such "stories" as Conspiracy Theories because that is what MSM wanted them to believe...
- this is a picture posted by an 'Anon' reporting the significance that a Major News outlet is Reporting that CHINA is DISTANCING itself from BIG PHARMA...
- the significance is multi-facetted given the timing of the Q Plan (not to be confused with a common news source or competetor).
- more people are awake, makes more if a difference now for people to take sides and take action...
- gives people more confidence to NOT COMPLY with mandatory vax...
- demonstrates that arms if the DS are beginning to covers their own assess at the expense of other evil doers just as Q told us they would...
- Awakens more people's eyes to the synister role of Big Pharma...
All part of the Q plan to drain the entirety of the breadth and depth of the Global Swamp...
Don't see any News Sources advocating for a winning Strategic Plan against the DS enemy!!!
 

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https://rumble.com/vpgpp8-how-did-w...w-on-shocking-covid-19-issues-in-austral.html

Dr. Nikolai Petrovsky, a renowned researcher, professor and expert in the field of immunology, endocrinology and vaccine development speaks about the shocking Covid-19 restrictions that have tightened around Australia.

Dr. Petrovsky is the founder of the vaccine company, Vaxine, funded by the US NIH to develop novel vaccine technologies. He has developed a protein subunit vaccine for COVID-19. He also serves as director of endocrinology at Flinders Medical Centre, Australia, and is vice-president and secretary-general of the international immunomics society.

See the full interview here |
Vaxine Website Link | https://vaxine.net/
Hey, I hate the restrictions too. Just keep in mind that Australia's COVID death rate is around 1/10 of the USA's. I am no longer restricted anyway. I've had two jabs. Someone on this forum said that in 55 years, the effect of the vaccine will be to kill me. That will make me 155 years old. I'm terrified. Not.

Two things have arisen out of COVID that have nothing to do with the virus itself. One is the insane conspiracy theories floating around. Hopefully they will dissipate as people realise just how ridiculous most of it is. Still, if someone is waiting 55 years to see if they are right, anything is possible.

The other, and to my mind, more important issue, is the government's response, using COVID as an excuse to erode personal liberties. Hopefully people will realise how much of a threat this is and vote accordingly. The state of Victoria is beginning to resemble North Korea. The sooner we are rid of the closet Marxist the better.
 

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One post put it this way:

We tried scaring you, then we bribed you, then we guilted you, then we shamed you, then we blamed you, now we’re going to fire you because we care about you.

Is that logical or reasonable?
It is if you are watching your health system collapse under the weight of massive numbers of COVID patients. I don't agree with mandatory vaccinations. I don't agree with people dying from COVID either. Governments are in a difficult position. Australia has gone hard on restrictions and vaccination policy. The death rate from COVID is less than 10% of that in the USA. Since the US has about 340 million people, I suppose it does not matter so much. The US has plenty of people, I'm sure 3/4 of a million or so won't be missed.
 

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Hey, I hate the restrictions too. Just keep in mind that Australia's COVID death rate is around 1/10 of the USA's. I am no longer restricted anyway. I've had two jabs. Someone on this forum said that in 55 years, the effect of the vaccine will be to kill me. That will make me 155 years old. I'm terrified. Not.

Two things have arisen out of COVID that have nothing to do with the virus itself. One is the insane conspiracy theories floating around. Hopefully they will dissipate as people realise just how ridiculous most of it is. Still, if someone is waiting 55 years to see if they are right, anything is possible.

The other, and to my mind, more important issue, is the government's response, using COVID as an excuse to erode personal liberties. Hopefully people will realise how much of a threat this is and vote accordingly. The state of Victoria is beginning to resemble North Korea. The sooner we are rid of the closet Marxist the better.
There is a very big difference between someone who is 100 and someone else who is 10. My mom has been fully vaccinated and although I chose not to get the shot for myself I did not do anything to discourage or dissuade her. However, I am pretty sure that the impact of the two shots and the booster will kill you off in 20 years along with other possible factors, however, that is going to be different for different people. For someone who is 65 the 55 year projection is probably much more accurate.

The insane conspiracy theories have for the most part been completely debunked and are now considered fact. There is no evidence that the virus came from a bat cave and all the evidence we do have is that it came from the Wuhan bioweapons lab -- fact. Fauci funded that research -- fact. Fauci did everything he could to turn the attention away from the bioweapons lab -- fact. The vaccine is deadlier and has far more adverse reactions than many previous vaccines that were rejected -- fact. They are mandating an approved vaccine but injecting you with an experimental one -- fact. What they are doing violates the Nuremberg codes and US constitution -- Fact (though this is still winding its way through the courts).

Also we have completely gotten rid of the closet marxist, they have all come out of the closet and are behaving brazenly in your face.
 

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yes, full on marxism right out in the open.

and thousands are cheering it on...
 

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It is if you are watching your health system collapse under the weight of massive numbers of COVID patients. I don't agree with mandatory vaccinations. I don't agree with people dying from COVID either. Governments are in a difficult position. Australia has gone hard on restrictions and vaccination policy. The death rate from COVID is less than 10% of that in the USA. Since the US has about 340 million people, I suppose it does not matter so much. The US has plenty of people, I'm sure 3/4 of a million or so won't be missed.
Not everywhere. We have a large Amish community very near NYC who have reached herd immunity without any of them getting vaccinated. Florida, our third most populous state and the state with the most elderly population is currently got the lowest number of cases of Covid in the nation. They did not have a shut down and they did not mandate the vaccine or masks. They were attacked and ridiculed for being anti science and holding "super spreader events" all of which never materialized.

Meanwhile Israel has the highest vaccination rate of any country and has had some of the worst waves of sick hitting their hospitals. Singapore is a second example of the vaccine not working.

Any logical, reasonable person would question the efficacy of the vaccine and that is precisely what Taiwan has done. By the way, Taiwan is the country that has the very best per capita death rate from Covid so they are truly the gold standard in how to deal with a pandemic.

We have proven, scientifically that Ivermectin is a very effective treatment, used to great advantage in India.

We also have 50 years of studies and evidence that HCQ is effective against all viral infections.

According to the Data Covid is not any more deadly than the flu and we have two effective treatments. There is no reason why an experimental vaccine would be mandated for all.
 
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I'll take the jab...if they hold me down and give it to me!
 

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No more Mr. Nice Guy


Major headline for the Blood Moon
 

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My husband and I got our shots. We are fine. Eveyone in our family did as well and they are all fine. What do you fear?
If this continues, we will onlly get stronger and stronger variants.

If you are prolife, then show it. I personaly lost my very best friend to this disease and I know of others. My daugher also knows people who havedied.
At the very least watch this video ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-58080116

If this saves just one life, then it was wroth posting.
Thank you forreading.
No, my wife and I won't get it.
 
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During a one-week period earlier this year on another forum, I watched as 3 members, including 2 friends, lost loved ones to the vaccine.
Oh yeah, one dear brother tried to convince his mother and granny not to get the jab, but they did. Within the week, granny was dead and mom was in ICU. She survived.
I hear that tests of vaccine samples showed that a certain percentage were saline solution. Now why would thy do that?
 
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