PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

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Gideon300

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I find it hard to believe you are truly in the medical field with this highly ignorant statement.

Ivermectin has been used in humans for decades.
Yes, in appropriate doses, and for parasitic worms. Last I heard, COVID was a virus, not a worm.
 

gb9

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Ivermectin is undergoing trials. First results indicate that it is harmless in human doses but harmful if animal variants are used. There is also initial evidence to suggest that it is useless.

Go to any Chemist (US drug store) and there will be a wall or three devoted to vitamins and minerals. One or two have been researched to demonstrate their efficacy. In Australia, they all have a declaration that they are only to overcome vitamin deficiencies. Of course, that that is fine print that is swamped by exaggerated claims. One or two manufacturers have been fined for making false claims. So they are more inclined to include phrases such as "may help" instead of snake oil type declarations that were commonplace.

People are used to taking vitamins, in spite of there being little evidence that they actually do any good for the average person. When someone starts spouting the virtues of Acacia berries, Cranberry juice and such, there is always a large number of people who swallow the baseless claims. Yes, terrible pun I know.

I was advised by my Urologist to drink Cranberry juice. It's expensive. It does not taste that good. And it did absolutely nothing to help. The latest research indicates that Cranberry juice has no practical protection against UTI's. I can confirm that experientially. It should work in theory. it does not in practice.

Ivermectin has yet to complete clinical trials. Initial research and anecdotal evidence suggests that it is useless against COVID or COVID's effects on the human body.

^ except for all the doctors who gave it and all the people who took it and got better.

that is evidence of it working.
 

mailmandan

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the sad thing about this- there are most likely more individuals who think this way.
If the unvaccinated with religious exemptions deserve to die, then what do the people who are responsible for this virus being released into the general population and causing this pandemic in the first place deserve?
 

kaylagrl

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If the unvaccinated with religious exemptions deserve to die, then what do the people who are responsible for this virus being released into the general population and causing this pandemic in the first place deserve?

Mmm humm or the gov't officials who are caught out doing the opposite of what they are telling us to do...
 

PennEd

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There is NO reason good enough to risk your lives folks:

Jolene Kolenosky: 39-year-old Canadian woman gets injected because she wanted to travel, dead four days later

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PRINCE ALBERT, SASKATCHEWAN — A 39-year-old mother of four is dead because Canadian dystopian regulations require experimental, deadly shots to travel abroad.
Ms. Jolene Robyn Kolenosky, aka Jolene Topham, received her first mRNA injection on October 13, according to several friends and family members on Facebook. It’s unclear whether it was Pfizer or Moderna (and it doesn’t matter).
It definitely wasn’t AstraZeneca because Saskatchewan stopped using that brandallegedly due to “supply issues” in May. But the real reason is because several countries across the globe stopped using AstraZeneca in March due to numerous reports of blood clots.

Canadian mainstream propaganda media could not hide these deadly facts; and it scared even the most hardcore vaxx zealots away from AstraZeneca. Further, Johnson & Johnson has only been available in Saskatchewan since mid-November.
Ms. Kolenosky went on about her life as normal after the shot. She and one of her best friends, Kristen Wolffe, went on a long road trip the next day to celebrate Kristen’s birthday. Ms. Kolenosky planned a trip to Jamaica for her 40th birthday in February 2022. That’s the only reason she received the mRNA injection since Canada requires the injections for international travel.
The duo returned home from their trip without issue. But everything changed one day later.
Tragic death and aftermath
Ms. Kolenosky woke up on Saturday, October 16 and immediately knew her situation was dire. She vomited non-stop and lost control of her bowels, according to her lifelong friend, Steven Swain. “It was like a freight train hit her,” he said. The next day, Ms. Kolenosky woke up “disoriented and delirious, kind of like signs of a stroke,” Mr. Swain said in a TikTok video.
By the time Ms. Kolenosky got to the hospital, there was blood pooling behind her eyes and her body was covered with bruises that spontaneously came from nowhere. Her heart stopped at least twice before all the rest of her organs failed. Ms. Kolenosky passed awaySunday evening, October 17. What makes the story more gut-wrenching is the fact Ms. Kolenosky had so-called COVID-19 and recovered from it this past spring. Thus, she had natural immunity.


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Mr. Wolffe later revealed that Ms. Kolenosky died of multiple organ failure and cytokine storm. The latter essentially means any and all future coronaviruses will trigger a hyperactive immune response in vaxxed people, that slowly or quickly kills every cell in their bodies until all their organs fail.
 

Genipher

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Ivermectin is undergoing trials. First results indicate that it is harmless in human doses but harmful if animal variants are used. There is also initial evidence to suggest that it is useless.

Go to any Chemist (US drug store) and there will be a wall or three devoted to vitamins and minerals. One or two have been researched to demonstrate their efficacy. In Australia, they all have a declaration that they are only to overcome vitamin deficiencies. Of course, that that is fine print that is swamped by exaggerated claims. One or two manufacturers have been fined for making false claims. So they are more inclined to include phrases such as "may help" instead of snake oil type declarations that were commonplace.

People are used to taking vitamins, in spite of there being little evidence that they actually do any good for the average person. When someone starts spouting the virtues of Acacia berries, Cranberry juice and such, there is always a large number of people who swallow the baseless claims. Yes, terrible pun I know.

I was advised by my Urologist to drink Cranberry juice. It's expensive. It does not taste that good. And it did absolutely nothing to help. The latest research indicates that Cranberry juice has no practical protection against UTI's. I can confirm that experientially. It should work in theory. it does not in practice.

Ivermectin has yet to complete clinical trials. Initial research and anecdotal evidence suggests that it is useless against COVID or COVID's effects on the human body.
Interesting. I make my own cranberry juice and it's not expensive. Does taste pretty bad but the last time my 10 year old started having uti symptoms, she drank about 4 cups and the uti went away.
Probably depends on the person and how early the uti is dealt with. One of my sisters waited too long, tried the cranberry juice, and got worse.
But from MY personal experience, it works. 🤷‍♀️

I imagine it's much the same with Ivermectin. Perhaps it works great for some people but not others. Just like with medical care, it's not a one size fits all.
 

shittim

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It has become important to me to pray over all vitamins, supplements, herbal aids I take for health.
 

Genipher

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Yes, in appropriate doses, and for parasitic worms. Last I heard, COVID was a virus, not a worm.
Ivermectin kills parasites, among other things (lice, mites, etc).

"Viruses are small obligate intracellular parasites..."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21413309/

Stands to reason a drug used to kill a parasite could work on a virus aka parasite.
 

Solemateleft

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Ivermectin is undergoing trials. First results indicate that it is harmless in human doses but harmful if animal variants are used. There is also initial evidence to suggest that it is useless.

Go to any Chemist (US drug store) and there will be a wall or three devoted to vitamins and minerals. One or two have been researched to demonstrate their efficacy. In Australia, they all have a declaration that they are only to overcome vitamin deficiencies. Of course, that that is fine print that is swamped by exaggerated claims. One or two manufacturers have been fined for making false claims. So they are more inclined to include phrases such as "may help" instead of snake oil type declarations that were commonplace.

People are used to taking vitamins, in spite of there being little evidence that they actually do any good for the average person. When someone starts spouting the virtues of Acacia berries, Cranberry juice and such, there is always a large number of people who swallow the baseless claims. Yes, terrible pun I know.

I was advised by my Urologist to drink Cranberry juice. It's expensive. It does not taste that good. And it did absolutely nothing to help. The latest research indicates that Cranberry juice has no practical protection against UTI's. I can confirm that experientially. It should work in theory. it does not in practice.

Ivermectin has yet to complete clinical trials. Initial research and anecdotal evidence suggests that it is useless against COVID or COVID's effects on the human body.
With all do respect - was unable to see the source of your statements. So without listing a credible citation your comments are also read as merely anecdotal... Not to worry, I was able to do a few searches via duckduckgo.com (to avoid biased algorithms via Big Tech corrupt search engines) and found that much of your comments are attributed to standard internet searches ie https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers. Unfortunately, with all the censorship and corruption in Big Pharma and Big Tech these days it is very difficult to trust these sources... Citing the FDA, CDC and WHO is NO LONGER SUFFICIENT to PROVE credible PEER REVIEWED VETTING and REAL SCIENTIFIC APPROVAL...

For example here are a sampling of several PHD level science, research and data that CONTRADICTS all of the information found on the BIASED INTERNET... Try using duckduckgo.com for more trustworthy internet searches...

Ivermectin, Nobel
Oklahoma Doctors Have Tremendous Success in Treating Nursing Home COVID Patients with Ivermectin: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/oklahoma-doctors-tremendous-success-treating-nursing-home-covid-patients-ivermectin/

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Solemateleft

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Looks like a Crapshoot... giving new meaning to that term 'crapshoot'...
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Solemateleft

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BREAKING NEWS!!!

NEW STUDY INFORMATION REVEALS that the OMICRON VIRUS is ONLY TRANSMISSIBLE thru the TV, MSM and Big Tech Social Media...

The OMICRON CURE: UN-PLUG from the TV MSM and Big Tech Social Media...
 

Solemateleft

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Milwaukee had 149,000 voters who were switched to inactive

Dane 85,800

Waukesha 41,000

These are huge fluctuations that do not make sense with population changes

"The problem is, once you remove them all, how come they're all coming back again?"

@LizHarrington76
 

Gideon300

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With all do respect - was unable to see the source of your statements. So without listing a credible citation your comments are also read as merely anecdotal... Not to worry, I was able to do a few searches via duckduckgo.com (to avoid biased algorithms via Big Tech corrupt search engines) and found that much of your comments are attributed to standard internet searches ie https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers. Unfortunately, with all the censorship and corruption in Big Pharma and Big Tech these days it is very difficult to trust these sources... Citing the FDA, CDC and WHO is NO LONGER SUFFICIENT to PROVE credible PEER REVIEWED VETTING and REAL SCIENTIFIC APPROVAL...

For example here are a sampling of several PHD level science, research and data that CONTRADICTS all of the information found on the BIASED INTERNET... Try using duckduckgo.com for more trustworthy internet searches...

Ivermectin, Nobel
Oklahoma Doctors Have Tremendous Success in Treating Nursing Home COVID Patients with Ivermectin: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/oklahoma-doctors-tremendous-success-treating-nursing-home-covid-patients-ivermectin/

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You can find anything that you want on the internet. No doubt there is a survey of martians who have COVID being cured by drinking seawater. The question is the source. Your sources disagree entirely with mine.

Do you really imagine that the makers of ivermectin would not promote it with glee is it actually worked? It's a potential goldmine, an existing product, cheap to make with all the development and compliance costs recovered. Well Merck does not promote ivermectin as an anti COVID drug. The opposite : https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-ivermectin-molnupiravir-idUSL1N2R32JP

The cost of developing new treatments is massive. Every new drug is a financial risk. That's why medications are so expensive, especially at first. I know a little of the industry through previous jobs.
Ivermectin kills parasites, among other things (lice, mites, etc).

"Viruses are small obligate intracellular parasites..."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21413309/

Stands to reason a drug used to kill a parasite could work on a virus aka parasite.
Sure, ivermectin kills the virus. So does bleach, 70% alcohol, concentrated hydrochloric acid and a wide range of other chemicals. The point is not killing the virus. It's treating people and keeping them alive in the process. Viruses are parasitic but not in the same way as a worm. Ivermectin is good for its intended use. So far, a combination of a substantial vaccination program and more advanced medical treatments (not invermectin!) have dramatically reduced the death rate from COVID in Australia.
 

Nehemiah6

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So far, a combination of a substantial vaccination program and more advanced medical treatments (not invermectin!) have dramatically reduced the death rate from COVID in Australia.
This is total BS. Looks like you are on the side of the demons Gideon. Time to get off this bandwagon. You irrational opposition to ivermectin is the same as that of demon Fauci.
 
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