PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

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Aidan1

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cv5 said:
Aaahhhmmm......that was my opinion of forced vaccinations. You know...the ones you don't want but are forced upon you against your will.....like being raped?
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Well, there is a different, special a Gang rape.
Moses_Young said:
So true. These people deliberately forget the vast number of videos during and after the alleged pandemic, with citizen-journalists showing the hospitals empty.
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It seems you freely believe everything which supports your views. Thats your choice, but dont expect to see on this way the truth.
 
Genipher

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Aidan1 said:
Well, there is a different, special a Gang rape.

It seems you freely believe everything which supports your views. Thats your choice, but dont expect to see on this way the truth.
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Not trying to be harsh, Aidan, but...don't you do the same? If I recall from your past comments, you lean heavily on whatever truths the MSM dishes out. Do you research the other side of the vaccine issue or do you just assume any information that is contrary to the current narrative is "misinformation"?
 
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Genipher said:
Not trying to be harsh, Aidan, but...don't you do the same? If I recall from your past comments, you lean heavily on whatever truths the MSM dishes out. Do you research the other side of the vaccine issue or do you just assume any information that is contrary to the current narrative is "misinformation"?
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What is MSM?
 
Aidan1

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Genipher said:
Main stream media
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Ok, no i do not inform myself in mainstream media. It can be that sometimes the result is the same. What I wrote about the vaccine, masks and virus, i have mostly from what i have learned during my profession as nurse.
Maby you have an example what you exactly mean?
 
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Ann-Marie said:
Not at all. All we both had (my husband and I) was a sore arm at the injecion site for about a die.
BTW, no fetal cells were used in this vaccine (check CDC). As to other vaccines, using fetal cells .. they have used exactly 2 from fetuses aborted in the 1960's. Since then all they do is replicate the cell lines .. no other fetuses have ever been used. Again, you either trust the Science or you do not.
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I still don't trust the Tories in this situation. Trouble is that no on wants to discuss politics. But it feels wrong to ignore the avoidable poverty.
 
cv5

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JerryInBoston said:
Hospitals receive extra federal dollars for all new Covid-19 cases. Hospitals are incentivized to fudge the figures. As it's said: figures don't lie, but liars do figure.
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Correct. This is why I am always skeptical about official data.....from the USA. Big Pharma and the CDC hacks own the medical system.....bribed bought and paid for.

Israel and other countries....not so much.
 
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cv5 said:
Correct. This is why I am always skeptical about official data.....from the USA. Big Pharma and the CDC hacks own the medical system.....bribed bought and paid for.

Israel and other countries....not so much.
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Israel has one of the most vaccinated populations in the world. About 60% of the nation’s entire population of 9.3 million has received at least one vaccine dose, reported Reuters. Among adults, about 85% have been vaccinated which means that Israel’s vaccinated community is five times larger than its unvaccinated community.

The Israel Health Ministry’s data analysis has produced some new estimates about the effectiveness of Pfizer vaccines, according to The Washington Post:
  • In protecting against infection, Pfizer vaccines are 95% effective for the alpha variant but only 64% effective for the delta variant.
  • In preventing symptomatic COVID-19 cases, Pfizer vaccines are 97% effective for the alpha variant but only 64% effective for the delta variant.
  • In preventing hospitalization and serious disease, Pfizer vaccines are 97.5% effective for the alpha variant and still 93% effective for the delta variant.
While the Pfizer vaccine is less effective against the delta variant, the vaccine’s effectiveness still far exceeds the 50% vaccine efficacy threshold required for WHO approval, according to the organization’s website.

“Just because a variant emerges that renders the vaccines less effective doesn’t mean those vaccines weren’t effective in the first place,” according to The Washington Post.

While vaccinated people are testing positive and being hospitalized in Israel’s delta outbreak, the current post-vaccination outbreak is only a fraction of the country’s worst pre-vaccination outbreak in January, reported The Washington Post.
  • Currently, cases are less than one-tenth as many as during January’s peak.
  • Hospitalizations during the current outbreaks are less than one-sixteenth of January’s peak, per The Washington Post. Put differently, Israel is currently averaging 120 weekly hospital admissions. In January, the country averaged 2,000 weekly hospital admissions.
  • Most importantly, admission to intensive care units for severe COVID-19 cases is less than one-twentieth the number of admissions in January. source
 
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Aidan1 said:
Well, there is a different, special a Gang rape.

It seems you freely believe everything which supports your views. Thats your choice, but dont expect to see on this way the truth.
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Not at all. Just being a good detective.

I'm sure Germans heard a lot of testimony denounced as rumors from witnesses that death camps were in operation. But there was no official reporting of this by German authorities. The Jews who were good detectives fled the country. Or as a last ditch effort jumped from the trains.

The moral of the story is NEVER WAIT for worldly authority to make decisions FOR you. The historical examples are myriad and endless. And bear in mind the absolute corruption of the election stealing Biden regime. No draconian plot is beneath them.
 
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Aidan1 said:
Ok, no i do not inform myself in mainstream media. It can be that sometimes the result is the same. What I wrote about the vaccine, masks and virus, i have mostly from what i have learned during my profession as nurse.
Maby you have an example what you exactly mean?
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Maybe I am misremembering. I thought you had said, at one point, that you got a lot of your news information from, like CNN, etc.

At any rate, I think it's a natural human tendency to dismiss information that doesn't fit our personal narratives.
 
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Magenta said:
Israel has one of the most vaccinated populations in the world. About 60% of the nation’s entire population of 9.3 million has received at least one vaccine dose, reported Reuters. Among adults, about 85% have been vaccinated which means that Israel’s vaccinated community is five times larger than its unvaccinated community.

The Israel Health Ministry’s data analysis has produced some new estimates about the effectiveness of Pfizer vaccines, according to The Washington Post:
  • In protecting against infection, Pfizer vaccines are 95% effective for the alpha variant but only 64% effective for the delta variant.
  • In preventing symptomatic COVID-19 cases, Pfizer vaccines are 97% effective for the alpha variant but only 64% effective for the delta variant.
  • In preventing hospitalization and serious disease, Pfizer vaccines are 97.5% effective for the alpha variant and still 93% effective for the delta variant.
While the Pfizer vaccine is less effective against the delta variant, the vaccine’s effectiveness still far exceeds the 50% vaccine efficacy threshold required for WHO approval, according to the organization’s website.

“Just because a variant emerges that renders the vaccines less effective doesn’t mean those vaccines weren’t effective in the first place,” according to The Washington Post.

While vaccinated people are testing positive and being hospitalized in Israel’s delta outbreak, the current post-vaccination outbreak is only a fraction of the country’s worst pre-vaccination outbreak in January, reported The Washington Post.
  • Currently, cases are less than one-tenth as many as during January’s peak.
  • Hospitalizations during the current outbreaks are less than one-sixteenth of January’s peak, per The Washington Post. Put differently, Israel is currently averaging 120 weekly hospital admissions. In January, the country averaged 2,000 weekly hospital admissions.
  • Most importantly, admission to intensive care units for severe COVID-19 cases is less than one-twentieth the number of admissions in January. source
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Buzz me when Israel has accumulated LONG TERM data. Like 3-5 years. Until then there is NO WAY that I am going to be seduced by promises and instant gratification. Or be a hapless subject of illegal medical experiments FORCED upon me like a dog in a cage.

Furthermore, non vaxx treatments are available that are SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY to the jabs. With ZERO RISK. That is my chosen path.

Crazy Nazi (Fauci Gates Schwab....and a whole lot of other nutters) Vaxx experiments and tryanny VERBOTEN.

This whole thing could end up being a sterilization bomb, cancer bomb, immune system bomb....nobody really knows. Its going to be someone elses problem....not mine or my family's. We are OUT.
 
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cv5 said:
Buzz me when Israel has accumulated LONG TERM data. Like 3-5 years. Until then there is NO WAY that I am going to be seduced by promises and instant gratification. Or be a hapless subject of illegal medical experiments FORCED upon me like a dog in a cage.

Furthermore, non vaxx treatments are available that are SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY to the jabs. With ZERO RISK. That is my chosen path.

Crazy Nazi (Fauci Gates Schwab....and a whole lot of other nutters) Vaxx experiments and tryanny VERBOTEN.

This whole thing could end up being a sterilization bomb, cancer bomb, immune system bomb....nobody really knows. Its going to be someone elses problem....not mine or my family's. We are OUT.
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Are you waiting 3-5 years before you say anything one way or another? Nope! More of your hypocrisy.
 
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If you had bothered to read the post you would have seen that it was her nurse friend who told her, NOT a newspaper .
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when I had 2 stints in the hospital at the beginning of this year, I also had a couple of conversations with nurses who were very anti-covid shot. there is a reason for that.
 
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