PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

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DavidTree

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Abortion is no childsacrifice, its murder.
But for to notice. It is a different to kill someone for to use the body for something.
Or if you use the body from a killed human.
This is not the same.
To use human cells from a already killed baby for medicine is a ethical question and to avoid.
Sadly to say, we all are profit from this, or will you tell me that you are not vaccined against rubella or chickenpox?
Brother, in love I would disagree strongly with your statement:
"But for to notice. It is a different to kill someone for to use the body for something.
Or if you use the body from a killed human."
Aborted babies for use is sin - period.
They are the most helpless of us who were brutally murdered - Their lives sacrificed for pleasure and to satisfy the lust of those who want their bodies.

I was vaccinated as a child. What was in the vaccines I do not know. This I do know, that it stole from my life health and happiness.

Thank You, dear Lord Jesus for sparing me from death and being separated from you for all eternity - AMEN
 

Nehemiah6

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But, i would not seeing as sin to use the vaccine. Your are vaccined against chickenpox and rubella?
You, my friend, are either clueless or wilfully blind. Don't even talk about chickenpox and rubella. Get to know the truth:
Americans must never be ‘consigned to live in a Faucian dystopia,’ DeSantis declares
'I think it’s very important that we say unequivocally no to lockdowns, no to school closures, no to restrictions and no to mandates,' the Florida governor said.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...live-in-a-faucian-dystopia-desantis-declares/

Satan is trying to enslave the world, and you are working on his behalf!
 

DavidTree

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I'm disappointed at how we as Christians are treating each other. What would Jesus say if He saw all of these comments attacking our fellow brethren, name calling, and shaming? We're so fixed on the issue of COVID, but there are so many other issues out there in the world. Our first and foremost priority is to spread the good news to all the world. I'm sure if a non-Christian were to stumble along these posts, they wouldn't see the love of Christ in us at all. I think that we should all use our time to prepare ourselves for God's soon return and help other people instead of discussing this topic of COVID. Whether we get a vaccine or not isn't an issue we should be concerned about right now. If you want to, great. If you don't want to, great. But let's not show an ungodly and an unloving character towards one another in order to prove our points. Love and peace to you all. Every one of you please stay safe out there. I was wondering if anyone has heard of the Saturday or Seventh-day Sabbath before. I am a Seventh-day Adventist and I'm always intrigued to share and hear the practices of different Christians. Love and peace to you all. God bless, and I hope this comment finds you in good times. Let's remember to show God's love in everything that we do. I mean not to attack or offend any one of you, but to remind all of us that we need to show God's love in everything that we do. God bless.

"My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you." John 15:12
Agree with your assessment that we need love in the conversion and for each other.
This topic does deal with 'Life or Death' consequences.
It also has to deal with worldwide genocide as never before seen in history, the implications of which have yet to be fully exposed.

Thank You for the reminder of our Lord's commandment to love one another = AMEN
 

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Guys (and gals), if you cannot discuss this topic civilly and without name calling or accusatory statements attacking people's motives, salvation, etc. this thread (and others) will be closed and some people will be helped out the door. I've been pretty lenient on threads pertaining to Covid and the government's response to it but the time has come to draw the line.
 
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Agree with your assessment that we need love in the conversion and for each other.
This topic does deal with 'Life or Death' consequences.
It also has to deal with worldwide genocide as never before seen in history, the implications of which have yet to be fully exposed.

Thank You for the reminder of our Lord's commandment to love one another = AMEN
And thank you for respecting my comment, as I respect yours. I understand that the nature of this situation is important, and that we do need to discuss it. If only everyone on this forum could be as respectful towards one another as you are. God bless you brother.
 

Icedaisey

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The link you posted is coverup. I reviewed the actual ingredients which included 'fetal tissue'.
Furthermore, big pharma has been using aborted babies for years now.
Then you will be able to post that ingredients source for review.
Proceed.
 

DavidTree

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Aidan1

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This is called worshipping at the altar of COVID-MOLOCH.
Then why you are coming up now? Vaccine against chickenpox, rubella and Hepatitis a are in the same way made. Decades ago.
 
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My husband and I got our shots. We are fine. Eveyone in our family did as well and they are all fine. What do you fear?
If this continues, we will onlly get stronger and stronger variants.

If you are prolife, then show it. I personaly lost my very best friend to this disease and I know of others. My daugher also knows people who havedied.
At the very least watch this video ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-58080116

If this saves just one life, then it was wroth posting.
Thank you forreading.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT

Thanks but no thanks... Why do you care so much if i get the shot, or anyone else?
Whether or not i get the experimental injection is really not your business...

And besides, you had the choice of taking it, we are being forced into taking it through threats, blackmail and coercion. Its criminal
So again, thanks but no thanks to the experimental needle
 

PennEd

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Guys (and gals), if you cannot discuss this topic civilly and without name calling or accusatory statements attacking people's motives, salvation, etc. this thread (and others) will be closed and some people will be helped out the door. I've been pretty lenient on threads pertaining to Covid and the government's response to it but the time has come to draw the line.
Yes. Can you PLEASE just stick to posting about the 🦠, and vaccine?

Give your thoughts and data on that.

There are plenty of other places here to endlessly fight and bicker about Salvation, Rapture, and the like.

This is one of the few places online that doesn’t censor opinions and contrary data to the world’s narrative on the plandemic.

I’ve gotten a lot of valuable info on it here.
 
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Yes. Can you PLEASE just stick to posting about the 🦠, and vaccine?

Give your thoughts and data on that.

There are plenty of other places here to endlessly fight and bicker about Salvation, Rapture, and the like.

This is one of the few places online that doesn’t censor opinions and contrary data to the world’s narrative on the plandemic.

I’ve gotten a lot of valuable info on it here.
Ye but if you are not allowed to criticize someone's ideas or accuse their motives then you are not in an open discussion...
You are in a censored discussion.

As for salvation. The mark of the beast is directly linked to that so i find it unreasonable not to eventually have someone talking about that as well...

Name calling i can understand but those other demands are nonsensical, they're part of debate
 

PennEd

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Ye but if you are not allowed to criticize someone's ideas or accuse their motives then you are not in an open discussion...
You are in a censored discussion.
As we know, ALL speech is censored to a degree. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

Would it be appropriate to allow posts with f-bombs, or porn here?

Criticizing ideas is vastly different than assigning motives.

Even talking about motives is probably fine as long as it’s talked about in broad terms and not individualized.

This subject is THE most important issue of our time to have it banned.

So it might be best to stick to your opinion and supporting data, and let people see both sides and make an informed decision.
 

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Fauci berates mass outdoor gathering in South Dakota, but gives Obama's birthday bash a pass

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fa...-dakota-but-gives-obamas-birthday-bash-a-pass

This comment on Twitter summed it up: "No comment from St. Fauci on Obama’s soirée last night with a few hundred of his closest friends - or how about Lollapalooza last week in Chicago Or, I guess it’s SELECTIVE festivities, because the virus knows, and only attacks those who fit the Dems’ narrative."
 

Aidan1

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You, my friend, are either clueless or wilfully blind. Don't even talk about chickenpox and rubella. Get to know the truth:
Americans must never be ‘consigned to live in a Faucian dystopia,’ DeSantis declares
'I think it’s very important that we say unequivocally no to lockdowns, no to school closures, no to restrictions and no to mandates,' the Florida governor said.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...live-in-a-faucian-dystopia-desantis-declares/

Satan is trying to enslave the world, and you are working on his behalf!
Satan cant do, what God is not permitting!
If you are fighting against the covid vaccines, then must you fight in the same way against rubella, chickenpox and Hepatitis A vaccines! Thats the same!
If you are telling, that wearing masks, distance, vaccines and shot downs are from the devil. Then you have no idea to fight against a virus like covid.
There are vaccine one the way without useing celllines from abortet Babys. F.e. curevac, Merck, Institut pasteur et themis, sanofi et gsk protein siences.
Would you also say from them its from the devil?
 

ZNP

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The topic is a plea to get the Covid shot.

I had Covid, so why do I need the shot? That makes no sense to me and I have been teaching about viruses and vaccines for many years. I am no expert, I am a HS science teacher, so when I heard what Fauci was saying and suggesting I wanted to understand. I wanted to be able to explain to the students and I wanted to understand for myself. I have no problem believing that there are "exceptions" to the rule, this was presented as one, so tell me more. However, any questions that were asked were ridiculed, scorned, censored, and characterized as an attack on Fauci which he equated to an attack on science.

Now that I knew was idiotic. I also teach students that the history of science involves many, many mistakes, lots of questions and ultimately enough evidence to convince us of a new paradigm. They were not giving us any evidence and instead were rebuking anyone who asked questions. That is not science.

The first problem I had was that this plea to get the shot is based on the desire to get to herd immunity. However, that is simply a lie. Corona viruses mutate rapidly, this virus is so widespread with so many millions who are infected that new variants are a guarantee. If you have a vaccine that knocks out 99% of the variants you are simply favoring the 1% which will soon become the dominant variant and that is what we see. There appeared to be immunity conferred when people first got the shot, by June that was waning and as of today there seems to be no benefit at all between vaccinated and unvaccinated with some of these variants.

Second they push this 80% or 70% vaccination as a goal that will get us to herd immunity. Once again this was simply a lie. The US represents 5% of the world's population, 70% of the US represents 3.5% of the world's population. Unless your goal is 80% of the world you aren't going to get to "herd immunity". Second, you can't talk about "herd immunity" in terms of percentages. How many people does it take to keep a virus like this churning along? 100 million is a huge population, more than enough to allow a virus to survive for generations. If you have a herd of 1,000 animals then sure, 80% probably gets you to "herd immunity" but if it is 7.5 billion then even 95% will not be enough for herd immunity. Third, how gullible are people? We were told that this virus jumped from bats to people. Don't you realize if that is true then this virus can jump from people to bats? Are they going to vaccinate all the bats?

Common sense dictates that any thought that we will get to herd immunity is for idiots. We won't and everyone involved in this science knew it from day 1. That is why we don't make vaccines for corona viruses (the common cold).

But no one can deny this "urgent" push for mandating vaccines and bitter ugly rhetoric. Obviously there is a very important reason to give everyone the shot and just as obviously they are not telling us what it is and if we ask about it we are branded as evil. Good has become evil and evil has become good.
 

iamsoandso

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The topic is a plea to get the Covid shot.

I had Covid, so why do I need the shot? That makes no sense to me and I have been teaching about viruses and vaccines for many years. I am no expert, I am a HS science teacher, so when I heard what Fauci was saying and suggesting I wanted to understand. I wanted to be able to explain to the students and I wanted to understand for myself. I have no problem believing that there are "exceptions" to the rule, this was presented as one, so tell me more. However, any questions that were asked were ridiculed, scorned, censored, and characterized as an attack on Fauci which he equated to an attack on science.

Now that I knew was idiotic. I also teach students that the history of science involves many, many mistakes, lots of questions and ultimately enough evidence to convince us of a new paradigm. They were not giving us any evidence and instead were rebuking anyone who asked questions. That is not science.

The first problem I had was that this plea to get the shot is based on the desire to get to herd immunity. However, that is simply a lie. Corona viruses mutate rapidly, this virus is so widespread with so many millions who are infected that new variants are a guarantee. If you have a vaccine that knocks out 99% of the variants you are simply favoring the 1% which will soon become the dominant variant and that is what we see. There appeared to be immunity conferred when people first got the shot, by June that was waning and as of today there seems to be no benefit at all between vaccinated and unvaccinated ough with some of these variants.

Second they push this 80% or 70% vaccination as a goal that will get us to herd immunity. Once again this was simply a lie. The US represents 5% of the world's population, 70% of the US represents 3.5% of the world's population. Unless your goal is 80% of the world you aren't going to get to "herd immunity". Second, you can't talk about "herd immunity" in terms of percentages. How many people does it take to keep a virus like this churning along? 100 million is a huge population, more than enough to allow a virus to survive for generations. If you have a herd of 1,000 animals then sure, 80% probably gets you to "herd immunity" but if it is 7.5 billion then even 95% will not be enough for herd immunity. Third, how gullible are people? We were told that this virus jumped from bats to people. Don't you realize if that is true then this virus can jump from people to bats? Are they going to vaccinate all the bats?

Common sense dictates that any thought that we will get to herd immunity is for idiots. We won't and everyone involved in this science knew it from day 1. That is why we don't make vaccines for corona viruses (the common cold).

But no one can deny this "urgent" push for mandating vaccines and bitter ugly rhetoric. Obviously there is a very important reason to give everyone the shot and just as obviously they are not telling us what it is and if we ask about it we are branded as evil. Good has become evil and evil has become good.

Yes I agree about the herd immunity part. It seems that from the beginning(2019) everyone was hoping that either through vaccines or by people catching it they would develop herd immunity. Searching for articles about herd immunity most of the articles are from 2019/20 but not many current articles from 2021. The few articles that are most current seem as though they are no longer thinking that the population could reach heard immunity weather by the vaccinated or vaccinated. The reason is that if vaccinated the antibodies begin to deplete in eight or so months and if not vaccinated they deplete at around eight months also.

The problem it seems is that reinfections tend to become more severe instead of better in twenty percent of reinfections. It was everyone's hope that after catching C-19 then it would be less severe the next time they caught it but if they are correct in their latest studies on reinfection then this will not be good for the vaccinated nor the un-vaccinated because both will catch it over and over and it will become more severe each time they do. https://jim.bmj.com/content/69/6/1253 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm
 

DavidTree

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Yes I agree about the herd immunity part. It seems that from the beginning(2019) everyone was hoping that either through vaccines or by people catching it they would develop herd immunity. Searching for articles on herd immunity most of the articles are from 2019/20 but not many current articles from 2021. The few articles that are most current seem as though they are no longer thinking that the population could reach heard immunity weather by vaccinated or vaccinated. The reason is that if vaccinated the antibodies begin to deplete in eight or so months and if not vaccinated they deplete at around eight months also.

The problem it seems is that reinfections tend to become more severe instead of better in twenty percent of reinfections. It was everyone's hope that after catching C-19 then it would be less severe the next time they caught it but if they are correct in their latest studies on reinfection then this will not be good for the vaccinated nor the un-vaccinated because both will catch it over and over and it will become more severe each time they do. https://jim.bmj.com/content/69/6/1253 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm
The goal of lock downs, masking and the vaxx is fivefold;
#1 - weaken our God given immune system.
#2 - unleash fear upon the masses to intimidate, control and remove freedom of thought and logic
#3 - prepare the way for the Mark by making the current vaxx mandatory
#4 - HATE - sow the seeds of hate, distrust and division
#5 - create a class of citizens who are the vaxxed and those who resist become the DANGER