Pope Francis has died

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HeIsHere

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If by "not literal" he means "not not metaphorical" then it is meaningless to add that as a qualification after already saying they are metaphorical.
He has deep understanding, but I will agree he is not great as communicating and tends to be repetitive, I think his age is catching up with him.
On the rest, maybe you will get a chance to discuss with him.
 

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Not a Catholic but I am kinda curious if Robert Sarah might become the first black pope. Before you think we've gone woke or trying to bait ya'll, actually consider that he is pretty conservative, he even successfully resisted Francis' imposition of the sexual abominations. One does not have to be a Catholic to notice that they often set the trendcurve that the Protestants and wider religious politics type issue tend to follow. It could be that if one like Robert Sarah becomes Pope that God could be continuing the sort of reversal of the liberal-secularist ideology, an exacerbation in the death of the cult of the woke.

 
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Not a Catholic but I am kinda curious if Robert Sarah might become the first black pope. Before you think we've gone woke or trying to bait ya'll, actually consider that he is pretty conservative, he even successfully resisted Francis' imposition of the sexual abominations. One does not have to be a Catholic to notice that they often set the trendcurve that the Protestants and wider religious politics type issue tend to follow. It could be that if one like Robert Sarah becomes Pope that God could be continuing the sort of reversal of the liberal-secularist ideology, an exacerbation in the death of the cult of the woke.


I don't know. I think they will just pick someone that will tow the the globalist line, someone that believes the same things as the previous pope.


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SonJudgment

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I don't know. I think they will just pick someone that will tow the the globalist line, someone that believes the same things as the previous pope.


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Indeed that is also on the table but then frankly that's not much of a change as far as we're concerned. Just noting though there is a potential for the hope though too. It's similar to the 2024 US election I guess, high stakes, good chance it could go either way. We will just have to see, but either way it is manifest God is performing big moves taking down and setting up powers and princes with the most unctious of ease, either way let it be known our God is strong, praise Jesus..
 
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Indeed that is also on the table but then frankly that's not much of a change as far as we're concerned. Just noting though there is a potential for the hope though too. It's similar to the 2024 US election I guess, high stakes, good chance it could go either way. We will just have to see, but either way it is manifest God is performing big moves taking down and setting up powers and princes with the most unctious of ease, either way let it be known our God is strong, praise Jesus..

I like your positive attitude! But I'll hope with caution.

It's just that I remember that they (I'm being vague here because I don't know exactly who they are) "convinced" Pope Benedict to retire early (something unheard of and never done before) to install their own pope that tows their globalist line. So we'll see....


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SonJudgment

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Let us examine a little bit a pro-Robert Sarah case and argument, both examining his background, intellectual views, and ability to compete with other contenders that media is talking about.
 
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Wow, now we have the Zeus demi-god showing His power and seeking retribution through lightening strikes, I think I left that view of God when I learned about the real God of the Bible. (y)
You probably remember when you think about it that the Devil often tries to imitate God.

Do you think the George Floyd icon blown off the building was a coincidence? It happened on a clear day when there was no storm.

David prayed a prayer that I prayed for my Mom's murderers. Were not David's prayers inspired by the Holy Spirit?

6Cast forth lightning, and scatter them: shoot out thine arrows, and destroy them.
Psalm 144

God uses His creation often to bring judgement and has done so to kill many of His enemies. I love the battles of David's mighty men of valor and the Joshua Wars! I can understand that a sweet feminine lady like yourself has a hard time identifying with this side of God's personality and His mighty men of valor. I have a different set of skills that is pictured in the upper left hand corner that I do my best to bring against the damned demons who attack those I love.

Here's Joshua 10 and God slaughtering his enemies with hail stones. There were other wars where God used arrows IMHO lightning bolts.

5Therefore the five kings of the Amorites, the king of Jerusalem, the king of Hebron, the king of Jarmuth, the king of Lachish, the king of Eglon, gathered themselves together, and went up, they and all their hosts, and encamped before Gibeon, and made war against it. 6And the men of Gibeon sent unto Joshua to the camp to Gilgal, saying, Slack not thy hand from thy servants; come up to us quickly, and save us, and help us: for all the kings of the Amorites that dwell in the mountains are gathered together against us. 7So Joshua ascended from Gilgal, he, and all the people of war with him, and all the mighty men of valour. 8And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear them not: for I have delivered them into thine hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee. 9Joshua therefore came unto them suddenly, and went up from Gilgal all night.
10And the LORD discomfited them before Israel, and slew them with a great slaughter at Gibeon, and chased them along the way that goeth up to Bethhoron, and smote them to Azekah, and unto Makkedah. 11And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword. 12Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. 13And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day."

Then the chapter continues to be pretty graphic. 😂
 

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You probably remember when you think about it that the Devil often tries to imitate God.

Do you think the George Floyd icon blown off the building was a coincidence? It happened on a clear day when there was no storm.

David prayed a prayer that I prayed for my Mom's murderers. Were not David's prayers inspired by the Holy Spirit?

6Cast forth lightning, and scatter them: shoot out thine arrows, and destroy them.
Psalm 144

God uses His creation often to bring judgement and has done so to kill many of His enemies. I love the battles of David's mighty men of valor and the Joshua Wars! I can understand that a sweet feminine lady like yourself has a hard time identifying with this side of God's personality and His mighty men of valor. I have a different set of skills that is pictured in the upper left hand corner that I do my best to bring against the damned demons who attack those I love.

Here's Joshua 10 and God slaughtering his enemies with hail stones. There were other wars where God used arrows IMHO lightning bolts.

5Therefore the five kings of the Amorites, the king of Jerusalem, the king of Hebron, the king of Jarmuth, the king of Lachish, the king of Eglon, gathered themselves together, and went up, they and all their hosts, and encamped before Gibeon, and made war against it. 6And the men of Gibeon sent unto Joshua to the camp to Gilgal, saying, Slack not thy hand from thy servants; come up to us quickly, and save us, and help us: for all the kings of the Amorites that dwell in the mountains are gathered together against us. 7So Joshua ascended from Gilgal, he, and all the people of war with him, and all the mighty men of valour. 8And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear them not: for I have delivered them into thine hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee. 9Joshua therefore came unto them suddenly, and went up from Gilgal all night.
10And the LORD discomfited them before Israel, and slew them with a great slaughter at Gibeon, and chased them along the way that goeth up to Bethhoron, and smote them to Azekah, and unto Makkedah. 11And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword. 12Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. 13And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day."

Then the chapter continues to be pretty graphic. 😂
I believe and I think correctly we are in the New Testament not the old.

And God had a specific plan and purpose in the OT which HE has brought to fruition.
 

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We limit not the truth of God

1
We limit not the truth of God
To our poor reach of mind,
By notions of our day and sect,
Crude, partial and confined.
Now let a new and better hope
Within our hearts be stirred:
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
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Who dares to bind by his dull sense
The oracles of heaven,
For all the nations, tongues and climes
And all the ages given!
The universe how much unknown!
That ocean unexplored!
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
3
Darkling our great forefathers went
The first steps of the way;
’Twas but the dawning yet to grow
Into the perfect day;
And grow it shall, our glorious Sun
More fervid rays afford:
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
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The valleys past, ascending still,
Our souls would higher climb,
And look down from supernal heights,
On all the bygone times;
Upward we press, the air is clear,
And the sphere-music heard!
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
5
O Father, Son and Spirit, send
Us increase from above;
Enlarge, expand all Christian hearts
To comprehend Thy love;
And make us all go on to know
With nobler powers conferred:
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
 

HeIsHere

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Do you think the George Floyd icon blown off the building was a coincidence? It happened on a clear day when there was no storm.
Can you tell me is there a place in scripture where God acts without any accompanying speech (just a random, isolated act)

by either Him, one of his prophets, leaders, an angel or chosen apostles?

Do you think we have the authority to assign a specific action to God without definitive assurance from Him it was His action?
 

ZNP

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Can you tell me is there a place in scripture where God acts without any accompanying speech (just a random, isolated act)

by either Him, one of his prophets, leaders, an angel or chosen apostles?

Do you think we have the authority to assign a specific action to God without definitive assurance from Him it was His action?
We are told very clearly in Deuteronomy 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

The Pope did not hearken unto the voice of the Lord God to do all His commandments and His statutes which were given to us by the apostles.
 
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Wow, lightening doing what it is known to do...

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They are also more prone to lightning strikes when they blaspheme our Father as the pastorette did at this "church."
Can you tell me is there a place in scripture where God acts without any accompanying speech (just a random, isolated act)

by either Him, one of his prophets, leaders, an angel or chosen apostles?

Do you think we have the authority to assign a specific action to God without definitive assurance from Him it was His action?

I'm not saying there are no coincidences or random chance of natural activities.
Everywhere.....
Go outside......
Look around.....
What do you see?


I'm not saying there are no coincidences or random chance of natural activities dear friend.
I learned of that event in the news as that latest popular idol was being praised and worshipped as the icon of virtue. When lightning comes from a perfectly clear day to blast the face off the side of the building perfectly leaving CHANGE YOUR MIND.....
Perhaps I'm reading too much into this event. I can't give you chapter and verse for George Floyd idols, but it seems to me to be in line with something He does.

I just finished teaching chapter by chapter through the book of Acts. We realize that there aren't necessarily the frequency of obvious miracles done since Scripture has been completed.
However, I have seen many miracles in my short lifetime.

Does God no longer get angry?
Does He no longer judge or communicate through nature?
 
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You never heard that story, it is fantastic.

On Pope Francis's Birthday: Lightning Strikes St. Peter's Statue and removes Halo & Keys in Buenos Aires


On Sunday December 17, 2023, lightning struck and removed the key and halo of the statue of Saint Peter, located on the facade of the Sanctuary of Our Lady of the Rosary of San Nicolas , north of Buenos Aires, Argentina. What is striking, in fact, is that the event occurred on Jorge Mario Bergoglio's birthday, the day before the publication of the "Fiducia supplicans" declaration which opens up blessings for gay couples. Symbolically, Jung interpreted a lightning strike as indicating a sudden change in psychic condition. It seems that the archetypal feminine, the anima mundi, the chthonic Eros Self, not just the Logos Self, wants be included in the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. What do you make out of it?

I misread that and thought the poope himself was struck dead by lightning.
 
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You never heard that story, it is fantastic.

On Pope Francis's Birthday: Lightning Strikes St. Peter's Statue and removes Halo & Keys in Buenos Aires


On Sunday December 17, 2023, lightning struck and removed the key and halo of the statue of Saint Peter, located on the facade of the Sanctuary of Our Lady of the Rosary of San Nicolas , north of Buenos Aires, Argentina. What is striking, in fact, is that the event occurred on Jorge Mario Bergoglio's birthday, the day before the publication of the "Fiducia supplicans" declaration which opens up blessings for gay couples. Symbolically, Jung interpreted a lightning strike as indicating a sudden change in psychic condition. It seems that the archetypal feminine, the anima mundi, the chthonic Eros Self, not just the Logos Self, wants be included in the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. What do you make out of it?
Another big whoa! So God zapped the halo and key right off the statue of Saint Peter?!??

Those symbols have major meaning:

Halo: means that person is holy

Key: means the authority Jesus gave Peter

God does not approve....


Shocking Twist on Pope Francis's Birthday: Lightning Strikes and Halo Disappears!



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Another big whoa! So God zapped the halo and key right off the statue of Saint Peter?!??

Those symbols have major meaning:

Halo: means that person is holy

Key: means the authority Jesus gave Peter

God does not approve....


Shocking Twist on Pope Francis's Birthday: Lightning Strikes and Halo Disappears!



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Even if there's no connection to the lightning and date, we know that the Bible speaks sternly about God's judgement on this topic.

This morning my devotion included Jude.

7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

From this we know that the judgement on these cities continues to be an example of God's continuing view upon this form of wickedness.
 
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An example of how we should pray in our modern time.
James 5

The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. 17Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months. 18And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.

Supernatural judgement and supernatural deliverance....

To me these are bigger answers to prayer than an idol being struck by lightning. I can't prove or disprove what idols have been hit by God to get the attention of the idolators.
One thing that is possible is leading idolators to The True and Living God Jesus Christ.
 
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Even if there's no connection to the lightning and date, we know that the Bible speaks sternly about God's judgement on this topic.

This morning my devotion included Jude.

7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

From this we know that the judgement on these cities continues to be an example of God's continuing view upon this form of wickedness.

These lightning strikes are definitely acts of God and not merely coincidences.

It seems to me God is trying to communicate to those who revere these symbols that they shouldn't idolize them.

I mean, when I saw the before and after pictures of the mural of George Floyd - the face of George Floyd was COMPLETELY OBLITERATED - and nothing else! The wording "change your mind" was still there and stood out even more!

And then there's the statue of Peter. When the lightning struck it - it only zapped off his halo and key - nothing else! The strike was so accurate! That's telling idolators of Peter to quit it and stop venerating him!

Oh I love when God does that! :love:

Isaiah 44:6
“This is what the Lord says—
Israel’s
King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
I am the
first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.


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These lightning strikes are definitely acts of God and not merely coincidences.

It seems to me God is trying to communicate to those who revere these symbols that they shouldn't idolize them.

I mean, when I saw the before and after pictures of the mural of George Floyd - the face of George Floyd was COMPLETELY OBLITERATED - and nothing else! The wording "change your mind" was still there and stood out even more!

And then there's the statue of Peter. When the lightning struck it - it only zapped off his halo and key - nothing else! The strike was so accurate! That's telling idolators of Peter to quit it and stop venerating him!

Oh I love when God does that! :love:

Isaiah 44:6
“This is what the Lord says—
Israel’s
King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
I am the
first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.


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I've seen God communicate His power, love and deliverance through miraculous events in nature. They have filled chapters in my book .