Pro-womb homicide liberal Americans seek to attack innocent unborn overseas

[1still_waters]

Some brave legislators in America are attempting to take a stand against the pro-homicide in the womb liberals. But the pro-homicide in the womb liberals in America will hear nothing of it. In fact they are seeking to extend womb homicides overseas.

The pro-womb homicide organization NARAL posted briefly, lamenting the brave legislators attempt to prevent homicide in the womb in America and overseas.

These brave legislators are seeking to stop funding of any organizations overseas that perform these homicides in the womb. Like typical blood thirsty liberals, NARAL can't stand the thought of innocent lives being saved.

NARAL sugar coats their homicidal ways by calling it "Women's Health". They turn the tables on protecting lives of the innocent by calling it a "War On Women".

You can't get any more disgusting than calling homicide "health", and protecting innocent life a war.

link --> Blog for Choice | The War on Women Goes Global

 

[kayem77]

War on Women? Talk about people being dramatic....it's funny how they use nicknames like ''anti-choice'', ''pro-choice'', and ''pro-life'' instead of calling things by their names.

On the other hand, I do think it's important for women to be able to benefit from family-plannning programs (not abortion), so I don't see the reason why women shouldn't get birth control when it comes to health issues (again, not abortive procedures).

 

[miktre]

The local Christians are the only ones out there making a difference, there are a few groups in our local area that help the mothers and adopt, if the mother doesn't change her mind. There seems like a whole lot of demonic influence behind these pro-abortion organizations. Thanks for the update.

 

[XxX4201337B3457XxX]

Blood thirsty liberals? Don't you think that's a tad bit silly? How is abortion any worse than birth control? Denying a sperm cell the right to become a human isn't murder? As a matter of fact, millions of sperm cells are ejaculated into a womb, so unless you capture each one and individually birth them, than you support mass genocide.

See how I can spout stupid things too?

 

[1still_waters]

Blood thirsty liberals? Don't you think that's a tad bit silly? How is abortion any worse than birth control? Denying a sperm cell the right to become a human isn't murder? As a matter of fact, millions of sperm cells are ejaculated into a womb, so unless you capture each one and individually birth them, than you support mass genocide.

See how I can spout stupid things too?

You don't see the difference between destroying a body that has a heart beat, nerves, ability to feel, and a sperm?

And no, blood thirsty is not an incorrect description of liberals. They pursue the ability to destroy life that has a heart beat and brain waves with absolute passion. That is blood thirstiness .

 

[jack4022]

I'm just curious about a few things
1) do u support birth control?
2) do u support sex education?
3) do u support organizations that help women give their children up for adoption?
4) would u encourage a prospective adoptive couple to adopt nationally or internationally?
5) do u support organizations that help families raise children with developmental or mental disorders?
these are just some things that conservatives are kinda bad at doing at times (not all conservatives). Sometimes I hear people say that they dont like abortion, but then they say they also dont like sex education or birth control and some pro-life organizations fail to provide women in crisis pregnancy with aid

 

[1still_waters]

1) do u support birth control?
--Abstinence is great for the unmarried. Works 100%.
--Married folks can decide on pills or devices or whatever.

2) do u support sex education?
--Parents can do it like they always should have been.

3) do u support organizations that help women give their children up for adoption?
--Long as they're not also doing abortions too.

4) would u encourage a prospective adoptive couple to adopt nationally or internationally?
--Not really germane to the thread.

5) do u support organizations that help families raise children with developmental or mental disorders?
--Long as they aren't suggesting abortion as an alternative.


these are just some things that conservatives are kinda bad at doing at times (not all conservatives). Sometimes I hear people say that they dont like abortion, but then they say they also dont like sex education or birth control and some pro-life organizations fail to provide women in crisis pregnancy with aid

 

[kayem77]

Sometimes I hear people say that they dont like abortion, but then they say they also dont like sex education or birth control and some pro-life organizations fail to provide women in crisis pregnancy with aid

This is what I don't agree with. I'm totally against to abortion as it is actually murder, but I don't see how opposing abortion is the same as opposing family-planning programs, sex education or birth control. Maybe another option could be opening more adoption centers, make them more available for women in need. I see more Planned Parenthood clinics than Adoption Centers....

 

[kayem77]

Blood thirsty liberals? Don't you think that's a tad bit silly? How is abortion any worse than birth control? Denying a sperm cell the right to become a human isn't murder? As a matter of fact, millions of sperm cells are ejaculated into a womb, so unless you capture each one and individually birth them, than you support mass genocide.

See how I can spout stupid things too?

Seriously? I can't even explain how different it is because I thought it was obvious...

 

[FrankensteinGirls]

You don't see the difference between destroying a body that has a heart beat, nerves, ability to feel, and a sperm?

And no, blood thirsty is not an incorrect description of liberals. They pursue the ability to destroy life that has a heart beat and brain waves with absolute passion. That is blood thirstiness .

Do you feel that way about all people who are pro choice?

 

[1still_waters]

Do you feel that way about all people who are pro choice?

If by pro-choice you mean giving a woman the right to rip apart the baby in her that has a heart beat, brain waves, nerve endings, and much much more, then yes, pro-choice=pro womb homicide.

What else is there to call it when you rip a human limb from limb when they have brain waves, a heart and nerve endings.?

 

[FrankensteinGirls]

If by pro-choice you mean giving a woman the right to rip apart the baby in her that has a heart beat, brain waves, nerve endings, and much much more, then yes, pro-choice=pro womb homicide.

What else is there to call it when you rip a human limb from limb when they have brain waves, a heart and nerve endings.?

I do believe in a womens right to chose to terminate the pregnancy, it's not like it's something people who are "for" legal (and not late term) abortion enjoy what abortion is or that it happens.

 

[1still_waters]

I do believe in a womens right to chose to terminate the pregnancy, it's not like it's something people who are "for" legal (and not late term) abortion enjoy what abortion is or that it happens.

All these terms...

Pro-choice
Right to terminate pregnancy
Women's health...

...are used to tidy up the absolute murderous and homicidal ways of abortion.

When people use those terms, they do just what murderers and serial killers do. In their mind they find a way to dehumanize their victim. In this case the victim is the baby in the womb.

Sorry it's not a medical procedure, or 'right to terminate'. It IS murder. If they did what they do to a baby in the womb, to someone outside the womb, that person would be put in prison for life.

Why is it wrong to destroy life outside the womb that has brain activity, heart beat, ability to feel pain, but it's ok to do that same thing to life in the womb that has the exact same characteristics?

I understand that many women have had abortions, and for them, they are offered just as much forgiveness as anyone else from Jesus. Regardless, we can't tidy up womb homicide by giving it sanity terms like 'terminate the pregnancy', 'pro-choice', 'women health'. Those are all ways to dehumanize the victim...ie the baby in the womb who has brain activity, heart beat and the ability to feel pain.

 

[1still_waters]

It's actually no different than the mental attitude of a bully. They view their victim as less than, then feel comfortable oppressing it.

 

[jonathanbchristian]

I am pro-life. Abortion is definitly murder. I admire the Catholics in our city for doing so much pro-life work. I wish protestants did more. We persuaded at least one woman for sure not to get an abortion when I was doing sidewalk counseling with the Catholics at the abortion mill. Just knowing that one less baby was murdered because of me makes me think it is worth all the trouble. Talk to a prolife group and protest where they do abortion. Hold signs or try to talk to the women going in. Make sure you stay on the public sidewalk. If you save a life you will have treasure in Heaven.

 

[violakat]

Someone mentioned sex education. I agree that parents should be the first to educate their children. However, too many parents are refusing that part of their job and so someone else has to step in. The schools and religious organizations then usually take over. Most of the churches I know, do try and teach young people about God's perspective in regards to sex and marriage, and what all comes along with it. And we know that schools teach about sex itself, not necessarily about marriage or even abstinence and usually parents can say they don't want the schools to teach their child. So, personally, I think it's a wise idea to teach sex education, as long as the parents have the right to opt their child out of the program, especially if the feel it will teach their child opposite of what they believe. However, the parents that do, need to be prepared to teach their children. Also, I think there needs to be programs that give parents information about sex, common STD's (especially the most severest ones), and how to explain it to their children.

We also need programs out their that educate young women about abortion. And I don't mean in the way that Pro Choice educates. But for the girls to get all the facts. Show them the complications that abortion brings, such as depression, sickness, complications of future pregnancy, sterilization, and even death. Most young women don't even no that if they have an abortion, they have a greater chance of an ectopic pregnancy. Society tends to feed them that their lives will be so much easier, but they don't show the deep depression many young women face days, months, and even years after the abortion.

Not only that, but as someone mentioned earlier, we need programs that are designed to help single women who are facing pregnancies by themselves. Fortunately, I know several in the state I live in. But, even they can only do so much, since they are not funded by the government. And that's where churches can come in.

 

[Wesley]

I think once the fetus commences brain-waves, then abortion should be banned outside of life-saving procedures. Until that time, what she does with her body is not the business of government.

A woman is a person too, a person of value, and it is no less bloodthirsty to condemn her to death from hemorrhage than it is to condemn the fetus to death from D&C.

 

[violakat]

The problem Wesley, is that Scientist can't determine when the actual brain waves of the infant begins. Some say it's at 3 months, some at 1 or 2 days. They also can't determine when a baby begins to feel, or sense things around them. The most recent evidence though, from what a young woman has learned in her class, is that it's within days of conception. Not, as the older theories have stated, at 6 months.

 

[Wesley]

The problem Wesley, is that Scientist can't determine when the actual brain waves of the infant begins. Some say it's at 3 months, some at 1 or 2 days.

This is incorrect. No reputable scientist says brainwaves exist at one or two days, because no brain cells exist through which that brain activity might propogate.

Fetal brainwaves commence at about two months time, and are detectable using magnetoencephalography. EEGs can also detect them.

They also can't determine when a baby begins to feel, or sense things around them. The most recent evidence though, from what a young woman has learned in her class, is that it's within days of conception. Not, as the older theories have stated, at 6 months.

Do you have a reputable source for this, preferably a direct source and not hearsay? Clearly, without cranial activity, feelings aren't felt, and the NIH, [link here to its Journal of Medical Ethics] is pretty clear that there is no intracranial activity prior to eight weeks. The equipment for feelings to happen "within days of conception" is not present at all.

 

[FrankensteinGirls]

All these terms...

Pro-choice
Right to terminate pregnancy
Women's health...

...are used to tidy up the absolute murderous and homicidal ways of abortion.

When people use those terms, they do just what murderers and serial killers do. In their mind they find a way to dehumanize their victim. In this case the victim is the baby in the womb.

Sorry it's not a medical procedure, or 'right to terminate'. It IS murder. If they did what they do to a baby in the womb, to someone outside the womb, that person would be put in prison for life.

Why is it wrong to destroy life outside the womb that has brain activity, heart beat, ability to feel pain, but it's ok to do that same thing to life in the womb that has the exact same characteristics?

I understand that many women have had abortions, and for them, they are offered just as much forgiveness as anyone else from Jesus. Regardless, we can't tidy up womb homicide by giving it sanity terms like 'terminate the pregnancy', 'pro-choice', 'women health'. Those are all ways to dehumanize the victim...ie the baby in the womb who has brain activity, heart beat and the ability to feel pain.

We are not going to agree on this issue, I believe the government should stay out of woman's uterus, if you and you significant other (I don't know if you are married or not) get pregnant and do not want an abortion, that's great, and for you and your S/O to decide, not something you should be deciding for someone else.




Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about the morning after pill (I.E Plan B)