Sandy Hook shooting... hmm...

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Jenjoy

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I didn't watch the video. Is someone saying that they think was a conspiracy?
 
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Jordache

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The video is not viewable but I did view one posted on fb and I think it's ridiculous. First off, even I am smart enough to know if I'm going to lie I should cover my steps. None of this stuff was covered. The people putting these videos together do not have CIA clearance. They are surfing the web. You'd think any halfway intelligent person would think to block access to those resources if they were trying to alter truth.
People in tense situations are confused. They don't always speak clearly on interpret what they see accurately. If I'd been walking through the forest near that school when that happened my first reaction would be to scream "It wasn't me." That doesn't mean I had anything to do with it. It means I took an early morning walk and was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Someone said that children would make difficult targets because they'd be moving. This is not true. I know the training teachers go through for these scenarios. First, the children and the teachers often know very little of what's going on. The children are huddled in a corner or a room. They are confined. They don't run amuck. May there have been some frantic kids and adults, certainly, but most of them were probably too terrifies to move. Also in tense situations children tend to freeze... not run away. These kids were trained for how to respond in a dangerous situation at school. The protocol is to calmly gather your class in a corner and do something to calm them down. Read a story, sing a song, pray... etc... As a teacher I've dealt with young kids in lockdowns and I can say that the kids tend to listen well in those situations.
As for the father who laughed at the press conference. Have you ever heard of a person who laughs when uncomfortable. Have you ever heard of denial? His laugh does not mean he loved his daughter any less or that his was all a conspiracy.
As for the man who had kids dropped off at his home, people do strange things in scary situations. Maybe he didn't do what we think he should have done, but can you imagine knowing what was going on and having 6 children show up on your lawn. In addition, someone claimed he was obviously a fake because he was a part of the screen actors guild. This is absolutely ridiculous. First, being a part of the guild does not make you a good actor. Second, do you have any idea how many people are a member of the screen actors guild? This proves nothing!

The fact is nothing was covered up or no one would be able to find these inconsistencies in a simple google search. Are there different stories? Surely... But in tense situations facts get confused and it takes a bit for the full truth to come out. If this is a conspiracy there would be no trace of the initial truths that came out.
 

Nautilus

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Its thirty minutes and most clearly some dumb conspiracy vid...
 

alienx7587

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I knew there was something screwy with the reporting on this shooting, I just couldn't pinpoint what it was or why. I think the video is right in that the behavior of the people surrounding the incident is very strange. Whoever did this video worked pretty hard to prove their point and compile information.

Regardless, the higher ups in the government are out to control us whether they admit it or not and slowly but surely they will- that's how Fabian Socialism works.
 
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BarlyGurl

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The protocol is to calmly gather your class in a corner and do something to calm them down. Read a story, sing a song, pray... etc... As a teacher I've dealt with young kids in lockdowns and I can say that the kids tend to listen well in those situations.

Thanks for this disturbing little tidbit you have revealed here... I will make certain to incorporate the issue of RETRAINING into all future PTA, educational, daycare, etc., discussion opportunities.
 

Crypto

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Its thirty minutes and most clearly some dumb conspiracy vid...
It's probably wise to watch it first, and if there is something wrong or "dumb" please share it on this thread.
 

Crypto

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The video is not viewable but I did view one posted on fb and I think it's ridiculous. First off, even I am smart enough to know if I'm going to lie I should cover my steps. None of this stuff was covered. The people putting these videos together do not have CIA clearance. They are surfing the web. You'd think any halfway intelligent person would think to block access to those resources if they were trying to alter truth.
People in tense situations are confused. They don't always speak clearly on interpret what they see accurately. If I'd been walking through the forest near that school when that happened my first reaction would be to scream "It wasn't me." That doesn't mean I had anything to do with it. It means I took an early morning walk and was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Someone said that children would make difficult targets because they'd be moving. This is not true. I know the training teachers go through for these scenarios. First, the children and the teachers often know very little of what's going on. The children are huddled in a corner or a room. They are confined. They don't run amuck. May there have been some frantic kids and adults, certainly, but most of them were probably too terrifies to move. Also in tense situations children tend to freeze... not run away. These kids were trained for how to respond in a dangerous situation at school. The protocol is to calmly gather your class in a corner and do something to calm them down. Read a story, sing a song, pray... etc... As a teacher I've dealt with young kids in lockdowns and I can say that the kids tend to listen well in those situations.
As for the father who laughed at the press conference. Have you ever heard of a person who laughs when uncomfortable. Have you ever heard of denial? His laugh does not mean he loved his daughter any less or that his was all a conspiracy.
As for the man who had kids dropped off at his home, people do strange things in scary situations. Maybe he didn't do what we think he should have done, but can you imagine knowing what was going on and having 6 children show up on your lawn. In addition, someone claimed he was obviously a fake because he was a part of the screen actors guild. This is absolutely ridiculous. First, being a part of the guild does not make you a good actor. Second, do you have any idea how many people are a member of the screen actors guild? This proves nothing!

The fact is nothing was covered up or no one would be able to find these inconsistencies in a simple google search. Are there different stories? Surely... But in tense situations facts get confused and it takes a bit for the full truth to come out. If this is a conspiracy there would be no trace of the initial truths that came out.
How do you explain the Facebook things?
 
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DannyC

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Those conspiracy theories always appear after shootings not only in the most recent one of Sandy Hook but also the Colorado theater shooting, they are just nonsense made up by people will a little too much time on their hands.
 
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Jordache

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So, do you think a bunch of terrified little kids running around screaming is a good idea? What would be better? The protocol is there so that when there isn't enough accurate information going around at the time of a dangerous event, children are locked in a classroom with the windows covered, doors blocked, and then teachers keep them calm. Would it be smarter to have them all run like wildmen when perhaps the shooter was outside? Or they could run and hide and not be found for God knows how long? I think not. The best thing to do is stay calm, stay in one place, and make sure you are as barricaded as possible. Then when the police knock on your door and verify a particular teachers password, usually a social secutiry number, children can safely leave campus.
 
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Jordache

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Crypto, I'm not sure what happened on FB except that one parent supposedly started a FB donation page for his daughter who he said was killed before he death had been confirmed. First, I heard the narrator say it, but saw no evidence that this was true. Second, this page was not made before the shooting occurred. It was well after if the narrators info is correct. Just because the death was not supposedly confirmed publicly does not mean the man didn't already believe his daughter was dead. He could have assumed based on what he saw. Someone could have told him that class ??? was all killed. He could have overheard any number of "confidential" conversations, or reporters. There is no evidence that he didn't assume his daughter was already dead even though the official report had not come out.
 
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Jenjoy

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Someone set up an account on Facebook pretending to be one of the victims Aunts. . That would be someone who is lower than dirt.
 
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needmesomejesus

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Yah, I watched the entire video and think it's bull crap. There's too much information that is "found" for it to be actually true. Kind of when police are investigating a crime and a lot of information points to the same person (a ridiculous amount); they look to see if the person was set uup. Our government is too smart to have that many flaws visible. About the parents not looking sad or maybe smirking, probably a coping technique. I remember when I found out my classmate died; I started laughing in shock; But later in talking about it, I'd do a small laugh because it was the only way for me to not cry. It sickens me that someone would make a video belittling the fact that many children were murdered.
 
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Ugly

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Watch the video...
Some people don't like clicking videos if they don't know the content. You are simply getting less people responding by refusing to give a simple idea of what the video is about. Not sure why its such a big deal to write a sentence or two to explain it.
 
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if you want to know the truth on that video garbage, go to snopes.com they will break down the lies and half truths one step at a time, I cant believe anyone believes it was made up.
 
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I'm not into conspiracy stuff either, but there are some really fishy things going on with this story
Whilst you believe you are just being curious... here is another story for you.

Gene Rosen Harassed After Sheltering Sandy Hook Survivors | TIME.com

Read that story and pray. Ask the Lord are you really wisely following his path by being part of a truther movement that is harassing good men because of 'theories'.

The time now is for wisdom and leadership, not stupid fantasy stories when families are suffering.

I swear people's hatred for Obama is getting out of control and is very extremely un-Christian.
 
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I have a lot of debunking videos but a lot of them have swearing in them because of how disgusted the people are over the behavior of the 'truthers' so I won't post them.