Satanic Temple opens religious abortion clinic as part of destruction ritual

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Dude653

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This guy isn't for being transparent, although he is for any "Trans-parent". You're talking to a self professed "Christian" here arguing for the rights of Satanist to preform child sacrifice. This may not be the most productive conversation. I know you have to have seen that he is for anything Jesus is not and for everything Jesus is against. Seen many like him in the church, like the kid who was dragged to church every week and makes it his sole purpose to prove God wrong, or prove not all Christians are the same. I honestly have no idea why he ever goes around any Christian with the complete and total distain he seems to have for anything God calls good or commands of us. I used to let it bother me, but now it just makes me pity him for all the time he is wasting fighting God and not glorifying Him. That said God is keeping him close for a reason and hopefully sooner than later He removes the veil and opens his eyes in truth.
Nope, not one time in this conversation did I endorse abortion
 

ResidentAlien

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If you take TST at their word, the destruction ritual is:

Destruction ritual — participants destroy an object they own that symbolizes a source of pain in their lives.

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq

This is probably the most lame and selfish reason for getting an abortion I've ever heard. First, the participant doesn't "own" the unborn child, God does. Second, if the reason they're doing it is because the unborn child is a source of pain to them, I truly pity them. They seem to be some of the mostly deluded and confused people on the planet. I truly hope and pray God will reveal Himself to them.
 

Dude653

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Forget about if they believe in Satan or don't. Forget about if abortion is legal in New Mexico. Do you think what they are doing is morally wrong? I'm curious to know what you think.
I don't really feel like it's my place to have an opinion on that. That should be between the woman and her doctor.
There have already been cases of a woman bleeding to death in the parking lot of a miscarriage because the doctors were afraid they'd go to jail if they treated her
 

ResidentAlien

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I don't really feel like it's my place to have an opinion on that. That should be between the woman and her doctor.
There have already been cases of a woman bleeding to death in the parking lot of a miscarriage because the doctors were afraid they'd go to jail if they treated her
I was asking about TST. Whether or not you think it's morally wrong to abort an unborn baby in an ungodly ritual simply because it's a source of pain to the woman. I have a feeling you won't have an opinion on that either.
 

SomeDisciple

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1 atheist don't believe in Satan.
The imagery is just symbolic
I think this is only true to an extent.

We can't fully take that at their word that they're all just doing Satanism to troll Christianity. Some of them probably are; but I have no doubt actual Satanists are in the mix- and regardless, we know Satan himself is behind it.

But I also think it's a mistake to balk at them when they're professing to be mere atheists as well; because we take the risk of being wrong when we dismiss it as a lie. Accusing someone of lying right off the bat isn't a particularly diplomatic thing to do- even if they are lying. Lies typically come out over time in discourse anyway.

When it comes to the condition of someone's soul, I think someone believing and openly rejecting and opposing God is worse off; but if we're talking about societal effects and impact it probably doesn't matter much whether they "believe" with respect to their Satan worship, because they are doing his work regardless.
 

ResidentAlien

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No surprise the founder is a known conman currently operating under his latest alias.
The Lord has a way of dealing with people like this. Back in the day, Madalyn Murray O'Hair founded American Atheists and had her day in the sun; until she was kidnapped, murdered and buried in a shallow grave. The funny part is, it wasn't done by anyone who hated her for her atheism, but an American Atheist employee who robbed her of $600,000 in gold coins. Good old-fashioned greed.
 

ZNP

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The Lord has a way of dealing with people like this. Back in the day, Madalyn Murray O'Hair founded American Atheists and had her day in the sun; until she was kidnapped, murdered and buried in a shallow grave. The funny part is, it wasn't done by anyone who hated her for her atheism, but an American Atheist employee who robbed her of $600,000 in gold coins. Good old-fashioned greed.
Cartel members are the ones who kill other cartel members.
 

HeIsHere

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I don't really feel like it's my place to have an opinion on that. That should be between the woman and her doctor.
There have already been cases of a woman bleeding to death in the parking lot of a miscarriage because the doctors were afraid they'd go to jail if they treated her
Can you cite the specific case.

If it was the situation in Georgia, the women died after taking an abortion pill without proper aftercare.

Imagine blaming the pro-life movement when it was actually the Biden administration which changed the standard of medical care after a chemical abortion.
A woman and her twins died.

This is total nonsense that Kamala and her death cult keep pushing, you are vary naive.