Stand Up to Jewish Hate a Myth?

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notmyown

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no, i haven't, but i've been to Monroe NY before 2019. are things pretty tense in Lakewood, too?
@PennEd, i'm being too vague, and i'm sorry. 2019 was when Andrew Cuomo essentially made the community of Kiryas Joel its own village, separating it from Monroe.
as you drive into Kiryas Joel, on a state road, mind, you see a sign saying,
Welcome to Kiryas Joel. Please dress accordingly. :sneaky:

i won't go into any more detail, it's just gossip, but please believe me when i tell you this sign alone sets people's backs up. hhhhhhhhhhhhhh (<--- how my youngest expresses a sigh in a text message ;) )
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Then there is the disturbing reality that American Jews have generally supported the Democratic party when the Democrats are committed to destroying America and also hate Jews. Supporting Democrats also means supporting Palestinians instead of Israel, but these Jews do not see the irony. Is it possible that some Jews are behind the BDS Movement against Israel?

Yeah, I REALLY don't get that phenomenon. I call them self-hating Jews. The same people that turned in their own people to the Gestapo during WWII. People who are like Judas who turned in the Lord Jesus to His enemies.

I think that what goes on with the Jews also hints at or reflects what goes on in Christianity. In the end times, the Bible says that those who fall away from the Lord will betray others ("others" meaning the faithful Christians who endure to the end).

 

Moses_Young

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Yeah, I REALLY don't get that phenomenon. I call them self-hating Jews. The same people that turned in their own people to the Gestapo during WWII. People who are like Judas who turned in the Lord Jesus to His enemies.
Like Democrats/Communists in the US? There are traitors in all peoples. Even in the Church.
 

notmyown

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Like Democrats/Communists in the US? There are traitors in all peoples. Even in the Church.
bro, where's your new hat? didn't i see it a week or two ago? grandma have to take it back for alterations? lol
 

TheLearner

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Seeing several ads now "normalizing" men in relationships. I believe I have seen trans in some makeup commercials. I guess the old folk weren't far wrong when tv first came in and they said the devil was on the rooftops.
My Dad said, he is in the closet where he kept the TV.
 

TheLearner

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The irony is that the "antisemitism" accusation now really serves to hide actual "antisemitism". Similar to how the accusation of "racist" is now bandied about by useful idiots whenever another does not go along with the latest craziness on the Satanic agenda.

Antisemitism once meant to be opposed to one just because that one was of Semitic origin (i.e. race), but in recent decades, has been used to silence all dissent and disagreement if the other claims to be of Jewish race or religion. For example, the claim that George Soros is an evil man is not anti-semitism, for the sole reason that George identifies with the Jewish race or religion. The claim that the Zionist state has engaged in illegal activities or crimes against humanity is not anti-semitism, simply because its leadership claims to be a Jewish state. A claim is never anti-semitism if it is true, and sometimes, is not anti-semitism even if it is false (dependent on the reasons for the error).
Best examples are the KKK and Hitler. Both hate people and will kill them.
 

TheLearner

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not keeping up, recovering from another shoulder surgery. After the replacement, I fell and had to be repaired.
 

Cameron143

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not keeping up, recovering from another shoulder surgery. After the replacement, I fell and had to be repaired.
Prayers for you brother. I'd say hang in there to but you're already down 1 arm.
 

ZNP

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Have you seen the commercials saying Stand Up to Jewish Hate?? It's new catchy tagline. But no one seems to be calling out American companies that support the BDS movement. Unilever, Ben and Jerry's, Knors who make pasta sides, all a part of the BDS movement. Yet I have not seen these companies exposed. A pity that stats show there is a rise in antisemitism in the church also.
In the last 60 years I cannot recall a single church meeting or message that was antisemitic.
 

gb9

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In the last 60 years I cannot recall a single church meeting or message that was antisemitic.
now, you are called antisemitic if you criticize george soros......
 
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Locoponydirtman

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BDS? .....
 
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Locoponydirtman

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All this because unilever pulled Ben and Jerry's from Israel.
Could it be the same reason WalMart is pulling out of Chicago? Its just not profitable.
When i see someone cry racism the first thing i think is that an idiot is being loud again.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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All this because unilever pulled Ben and Jerry's from Israel.
Could it be the same reason WalMart is pulling out of Chicago? Its just not profitable.
When i see someone cry racism the first thing i think is that an idiot is being loud again.

Nah, I'm not some lib pc lover. When I speak on an issue, you can be sure there is a reason for it. Boycott. Sanction. Divest. It's not like Walmart pulling out of Chicago. I'm not an "idiot trying to be loud", those words have intent. If it was happening against America, you can believe something would be said to stop it. Stat.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/22/ben-jerrys-lose-israeli-settlements-palestinian
 

ZNP

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Nah, I'm not some lib pc lover. When I speak on an issue, you can be sure there is a reason for it. Boycott. Sanction. Divest. It's not like Walmart pulling out of Chicago. I'm not an "idiot trying to be loud", those words have intent. If it was happening against America, you can believe something would be said to stop it. Stat.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/22/ben-jerrys-lose-israeli-settlements-palestinian
1. "Jewish hate" is far broader than having an issue with the West bank and whether or not Jewish settlements are right. They don't object to sale of the ice cream in Israel, only in the West bank. So there is no evidence from this article that Ben and Jerry's hates Jews, or Israel. The only thing this is evidence of is that the owners of Ben and Jerry's are against the West bank being occupied by Israel. I would point out that many Jews object to that as well, that doesn't mean they hate Jews.

2. What are we supposed to stand up to in this article? It is their company, they have an opinion, it went to court the judge decided they didn't have a case. It seems to me there is absolutely no action called for as a response.

Therefore by itself this article does not prove Jewish hate nor does it support any cause for which people should stand up for concerning standing against Jewish hate.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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1. "Jewish hate" is far broader than having an issue with the West bank and whether or not Jewish settlements are right. They don't object to sale of the ice cream in Israel, only in the West bank. So there is no evidence from this article that Ben and Jerry's hates Jews, or Israel. The only thing this is evidence of is that the owners of Ben and Jerry's are against the West bank being occupied by Israel. I would point out that many Jews object to that as well, that doesn't mean they hate Jews.

2. What are we supposed to stand up to in this article? It is their company, they have an opinion, it went to court the judge decided they didn't have a case. It seems to me there is absolutely no action called for as a response.
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Therefore by itself this article does not prove Jewish hate nor does it support any cause for which people should stand up for concerning standing against Jewish hate.

Ok, first things first, Stand Up to Jewish hate is a hashtag based on a campaign against Antisemitism. Secondly, BDS is a movement that Ben and Jerrys are a part of to Boycott, Sanction and Divest Israel. Look up who is behind the campaign of BDS and you find that any business that supports Israel in any way they go after. It is 100% Antisemitic. If anyone came after America to boycott and sanction us and our businesses you can believe there would be hell raised over it.
 

ZNP

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Ok, first things first, Stand Up to Jewish hate is a hashtag based on a campaign against Antisemitism. Secondly, BDS is a movement that Ben and Jerrys are a part of to Boycott, Sanction and Divest Israel. Look up who is behind the campaign of BDS and you find that any business that supports Israel in any way they go after. It is 100% Antisemitic. If anyone came after America to boycott and sanction us and our businesses you can believe there would be hell raised over it.
Was that in the article you referenced? That is far more relevant and like you said it should be presented firstly and secondly. This article is merely an example of what they are doing and might support that.

Also, Divesting from Israel is not "Jewish hate" but perhaps Israel hate. Not the same thing. Rather than some vague racism it is very specific about targeting Israel. Jewish hate includes vandalizing a synagogue in NYC, divesting from Israel does not.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Was that in the article you referenced? That is far more relevant and like you said it should be presented firstly and secondly. This article is merely an example of what they are doing and might support that.

Also, Divesting from Israel is not "Jewish hate" but perhaps Israel hate. Not the same thing. Rather than some vague racism it is very specific about targeting Israel. Jewish hate includes vandalizing a synagogue in NYC, divesting from Israel does not.

Ever so rarely we disagree. The point is to do harm to Israel and it's coming from the Arabs, or "Palestinians" They have tried to push Israel into the ocean since 1948. They sure ain't doing it because of their love of Jews. Like I said, look up the founders of the BDS movement. Pretty sure you will see what I mean.
 

ZNP

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Ever so rarely we disagree. The point is to do harm to Israel and it's coming from the Arabs, or "Palestinians" They have tried to push Israel into the ocean since 1948. They sure ain't doing it because of their love of Jews. Like I said, look up the founders of the BDS movement. Pretty sure you will see what I mean.
Why don't you post links concerning the founders of the BDS movement.

I don't need a news article to know that many nations want to drive Israel into the ocean and eventually it will be all the nations on the earth.