The President elect

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renewed_hope

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As usual for the deluded right wingers on this forum, they gang up and criticize with hate filled rants but fail to address the truths that I point out to them. No surprise, par for the course. Thanks for confirming what I wrote.
Hey Froggy! How many times do you have to turn left before you know the right wingers are right? It's better than being left when you know your right, right? I'm right and your left so that makes me right!!! In fact we all are right because you are left. I should probably stop before confusing myself haha
 

peacenik

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deflecting the blame off yourself...just like victimizers do. Gaslighting is what you excel at.

But it is your friend Utah who accused me of defaming conservatives. I'm still waiting for proof of his claim since all he did was make the claim, provided no examples, no evidence of any kind, just made attack after attack.

Double standards, much ??
 

peacenik

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Hey Froggy! How many times do you have to turn left before you know the right wingers are right? It's better than being left when you know your right, right? I'm right and your left so that makes me right!!! In fact we all are right because you are left. I should probably stop before confusing myself haha



National Review, Glenn Beck, John Podhoretz, and even Sarah Palin are among the many right wingers I have quoted here who criticized Trump. Strange how now of the forum's many deluded right wing wingers credited me for quoting people from their side of the aisle.

Thus, the joke's on you. ;)
 

Sirk

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But it is your friend Utah who accused me of defaming conservatives. I'm still waiting for proof of his claim since all he did was make the claim, provided no examples, no evidence of any kind, just made attack after attack.

Double standards, much ??
but but but....someone else....
 

peacenik

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but but but....someone else....

yessssss ........ still awaiting "proof" that I defamed any great 'conservative' as I was accused of doing - especially since I used as sources those conservatives that you see listed above; click on search for more details ....
 

peacenik

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As I think about it, even the ultra conservative Ann Coulter has gone on record as criticizing Trump. Perhaps I shall have to post some links.

But that's for tomorrow or another day. Hopefully, Utah will have his ''proofs'' ready by then.

Anyways, had a lovely evening with you guys. So long until tomorrow .......
 

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I was never a Trump supporter (before you assume, I wasn't a Hillary supporter either), but I recognize my candidate lost and I accept that. I also am partly impressed with Trump's start. A lot of things, I'm not impressed with, like his plan to repeal and replace Obamacare and how much influence his liberal Democrat daughter has with Trump and other officials and the meeting with Al Ghore. I am impressed that he has canceled the expensive order for a new airforce 1 with Boeing in search of a better deal and I like some of his picks for offices and that he has taken the initiative to start meeting with foreign leaders to discuss our relationships with them. I am impressed that he thanked his supporters in a tour. There are a lot of things he needs to improve on and we the Amercan people need to hold him to the Constitution like we should with all our presidents.
 

Sirk

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As I think about it, even the ultra conservative Ann Coulter has gone on record as criticizing Trump. Perhaps I shall have to post some links.

But that's for tomorrow or another day. Hopefully, Utah will have his ''proofs'' ready by then.

Anyways, had a lovely evening with you guys. So long until tomorrow .......
nobody cares what you think.
 

Utah

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Funny how you once accused me of being on the dole but suddenly repented in a PM.
Bring on the hate.
Now I'm beginning to understand your vast problems. You see things that don't exist. Never once did I repent about anything in our PMs. In fact, I remember being rather cold regarding your history and that's unlike me. Now I'm getting it; Planet Delusion is reality for you. No wonder you think right is left and left is right. Carry on, froggie.
 

Utah

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Victim role....you do realize you share a common trait with the criminal mind by what you state here right?
Remember the football player for the Carolina Panthers, HeHateMe? Lol! ;)
 

Utah

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As I think about it, even the ultra conservative Ann Coulter has gone on record as criticizing Trump. Perhaps I shall have to post some links.

But that's for tomorrow or another day. Hopefully, Utah will have his ''proofs'' ready by then.

Anyways, had a lovely evening with you guys. So long until tomorrow .......
I really scrambled those eggs in your head, eh, froggy. Too bad. No worries, just sit back, relax and enjoy another day on the government dole. I'll embrace God's Word and earn my keep, with a joyful heart. Ribbit.
 

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In other news, Trump is a liberal Democrat pretending to be a conservative Republican
 

Sirk

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In other news, Trump is a liberal Democrat pretending to be a conservative Republican
In other news.....many are still stuck in a left/paradigm with no sign of coming to their senses.
 

peacenik

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Now I'm beginning to understand your vast problems. You see things that don't exist. Never once did I repent about anything in our PMs. In fact, I remember being rather cold regarding your history and that's unlike me. Now I'm getting it; Planet Delusion is reality for you. No wonder you think right is left and left is right. Carry on, froggie.


In your hate and delusionalism you forgot the content of your PM. I shall send you a copy of it forthwith my fine Penguin pal...
 

peacenik

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The president elect has made some rumblings about ending Obamacare. If he does, there's this to consider:



Hospitals warn Republicans of 'unprecedented public health crisis' from Obamacare repeal



Repealing Obamacare is going to be a disaster on just about every level: for individuals, for state and local governments, for healthcare providers and insurers, and thus for the politicians who are doing it. That's the message that the insurance industry has been giving President-popular-vote-loser-elect Trump and congressional Republicans. Now the nation's hospitals are putting a number on it: at least $165 billion in losses, just to hospitals, in the next decade unless something equally as good replaces it.
The two main trade groups for U.S. hospitals dispatched a letter to the incoming president and Capitol Hill’s top four leaders, saying that the government should help hospitals avoid massive financial losses if the law is rescinded in a way that causes a surge of uninsured patients.The letter, along with a consultant’s study estimating the financial impact of undoing the Affordable Care Act, makes hospitals the first sector of the health-care industry to speak out publicly to try to protect itself from a sharp reversal in health policy that Trump is promising and congressional Republicans have long favored. […]
[T]he American Hospital Association and the Federation of American Hospitals (FAH) convened a news conference Tuesday to release the study’s findings and draw attention to their concerns. […]
Joann Anderson, president of Southeastern Health, a financially fragile rural hospital in Lumberton, N.C., one of that state’s most economically depressed areas, said the prospect of repealing the health law without a replacement to keep people insured is “gut-wrenching. . . . We cannot take additional cuts.”
The study used the only thing available for its analysis, the repeal bill Republicans pushed through this January, vetoed by President Obama. Since in the intervening year, Republicans haven't come up with a scrap of anything else, this is what they're going with. That bill, since it had to pass through budget reconciliation to avoid a filibuster from Senate Democrats, stayed on the taxing and spending parts of the law and eliminated the federal subsidies for people purchasing private insurance on the exchanges, the penalties for individuals and employers who don't comply with its coverage mandates, and the Medicaid expansion in 31 states.



Without any of that, the entire thing crumbles and we go back to a situation at least as bad as pre-law, and for hospitals even worse. That's because the law also enacted cuts to hospitals treating uninsured patients on the assumption that there wouldn't be huge numbers of people without insurance needing treatment. If those cuts are restored (and fat chance they would be with Paul Ryan in charge) there's an addition $102 billion in losses, just to hospitals.
And there's a lot of hospitals closing, particularly rural ones. Which means lots more people—both insured and uninsured—without a place to go when they get sick or injured. The scope of the looming disaster with repeal is hard to fathom, and it's not going to be contained to the 20 million who are going to lose coverage. It's going to be everybody. If you throw in Medicare privatization and Medicaid being turned into a block grant, there won't be very many people who can afford health insurance, and a lot of employers who won't be able to provide it affordably either. And Republicans have absolutely no idea of how to fix that.






Hospitals warn Republicans of 'unprecedented public health crisis' from Obamacare repeal






This will lead to Republican created death panels. Any real pro lifer will not settle for that.







 

peacenik

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In other news, Trump is a liberal Democrat pretending to be a conservative Republican


Liberals don't create recessions, but Republicans do:






[h=1]Leading investment firm just predicted Trump will plunge US into massive recession[/h]


A reputable London-based firm predicts Donald Trump’s economic policies will cause a boom in 2017 and 2018, with a crippling recession following in 2019.
Legal & General (L&G) — a 200-year-old insurance and investment firm — announced Wednesday that the United States is likely to plunge into a severe recession just one year before the next presidential election if President-elect Donald Trump’s plans for the economy come to fruition. L&G specifically referenced Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan, along with his stated goals of slashing federal tax rates for corporations and individuals in their assessment of the future of the U.S. economy.
Tim Drayson, who is the lead economist at L&G Investment Management, told the London Telegraph Trump’s policies will initially double GDP growth from 1.5 percent to 3 percent, but that the increased growth will be short-lived.
“We think there is going to be a cost to this growth in the form of a downturn in 2019 – if we get the full Trump plan, there is a bigger boom in 2017 and 2018, then a bigger bust in 2019,” Drayson told the Telegraph. “At some point the bond market will freak out about this.”
“This is an unsustainable path and it will cause a bond market riot,” Drayson continued.
With the U.S. economy already delivering relatively high growth in comparison to stagnant wages and a relatively low unemployment rate, Drayson believes a fiscal crisis is just around the corner. The L&G economist added that if Trump’s plan to spend $1 trillion is successful, it will cause the United States’ current budget deficit to hit a “catastrophic” breaking point, prompting investors to sell off U.S. bonds en masse.
“He will not be able to maintain these fiscal plans indefinitely and someone will have to come into the White House to clean up the mess that it looks like he is about to create,” Drayson said.
Because the U.S. dollar is a dominant currency in global markets and a major exporter to Western countries like the United Kingdom, Drayson worries that the Trump recession would reverberate across the Atlantic and impact Britain’s economy, as well.
“US demand goes down, the dollar weakens, and the UK would be in a difficult spot because there is no fiscal space and we’re running out of monetary ammunition as well, so it would be very difficult to offset that,” Drayson said.




more at link:


Leading investment firm just predicted Trump will plunge US into massive recession
 

Utah

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In your hate and delusionalism you forgot the content of your PM. I shall send you a copy of it forthwith my fine Penguin pal...
You're right, I said something nice in my PM, but my heart was lacking the love we are called to share because to be honest, I despise trouble making liberal swine like you. I pray for your salvation; that's the love I afford you, but other than that, not so much. How's that for integrity and honesty in the open forum for all the world to see?